But ultimately left decision up to football people. Too many people living in fantasy land. I'm sure everyone here would own a billion dollar company and think they'd have zero thoughts or interactions with the people running things or zero care about a player's popularity. Most people living in the real world not some social media fantasy should get that.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
Shedding light on some of the pressures the front office is getting from the Mara family (John and Tim)
And we're seeing the tame, edited stuff. Can't imagine what they wouldn't allow the cameras to catch.
In the Maras defense - this offseason - it appears they did support Schoen's decisions, despite their objects - kudos their I suppose.
But one wonders - last year, and the Gettleman, Reese, Acorsi years prior - the whole "Giants Way GM" hires - what did the Mara dynamic look like? I'm guessing a lot more hands on - Especially with Chris Mara.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
Yes In a perfect world it would be great that our 70 year old owner was more in touch with how NFL team needs to be built in today's landscape, I agree. But like I said, there is a lot editing on this and we might not see the whole picture, lets say there was footage of Mara saying, Saquan is crazy if he thinks we are paying him that kind of money, do think that Mara would want that cut from the footage?
But I am totally OK with owner stating his opinion and letting the football guys make the decision.
I am probably more concerned with Tim McDonnell since he comes off as John's mouth and ears in the day to day stuff. However, cant use Hard Knocks as full proof. There somethings watching Joe and his process, its possible that he like the devil's advocate approach and wants someone to give perceptive of how a decision would look to in the public eye.
that's what bothers me. He just seems like the guy who shrugs his shoulders a lot, and doesn't have any real conviction about anything other than not wanting to lose players. He also looks like he's aged a lot.
Ultimately I see an old man who is losing/lost his fastball. Anyone with elderly family members can empathize. He's still sharp and lucid, but clearly not as sharp and clear thinking as man one, two, three decades younger.
I don't doubt that he has always roamed the hallways like he's shown on Hard Knocks and likely has had influence directly and indirectly in key decisions. That's his right as an owner. But any influence coming from him now is only a hindrance because the analytical reasoning is not there. You see it even in the made-for-TV portrayal of the Barkley interactions.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
Confused: "instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him."
So Gettleman did whatever Mara wanted? Or Gettleman did what his gut told him? Those seem like opposites.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
I think you're pretty spot on with this assessment. But to add a point of emphasis to your last sentence - this dynamic that we are witnessing between Schoen & Mara is in the context of the team still reeling from an absolutely calamitous season.
In terms of influence, the Mara/McDonnell faction should currently be at its nadir because they are the ones who championed Jones/Saquon the most and it very obviously blew up in everybody's faces.
I believe that what is hanging over all of the discussions that we're seeing on Hard Knocks is an unspoken, but understood, truth that last off-season was a disaster and we can't repeat it.
But what happens if the Giants are improved? Will Mara be emboldened to push his opinions on personnel more forcefully?
If you believe the show is authentic, any doubt that the buck stops with him has been taken out behind the woodshed.
This is a family business, and members of the family are going to make the final call on the big ticket items. And there will be breadsticks and endless pasta bowls.
The way the NFL operates, the Giants can (and have) stumble into stretches of good football. But the family influence will always be a hindrance.
At this point I'm trying to stop being angry about it and just come to accept it already. I want to enjoy Giants football again, even if they insist on making it difficult.
I started that this winter...but then again my office is frigid most days. We have 2 temps in both Winter and Summer; boiling or freezing.
In winter, either the heat is blasting and un bearable or it's turned off and then building is cold and drafty. In summer, either the central air is on and freezing or it's off and unbearably hot.
I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
Confused: "instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him."
So Gettleman did whatever Mara wanted? Or Gettleman did what his gut told him? Those seem like opposites.
I was just implying the decisions made probably fell into one of those 2 categories.
I started that this winter...but then again my office is frigid most days. We have 2 temps in both Winter and Summer; boiling or freezing.
In winter, either the heat is blasting and un bearable or it's turned off and then building is cold and drafty. In summer, either the central air is on and freezing or it's off and unbearably hot.
Mara can't even regulate the temperature in his own building correctly!
If you believe the show is authentic, any doubt that the buck stops with him has been taken out behind the woodshed.
This is a family business, and members of the family are going to make the final call on the big ticket items. And there will be breadsticks and endless pasta bowls.
The way the NFL operates, the Giants can (and have) stumble into stretches of good football. But the family influence will always be a hindrance.
At this point I'm trying to stop being angry about it and just come to accept it already. I want to enjoy Giants football again, even if they insist on making it difficult.
NTTAWWT. Fans often are out of touch, overly opinionated, etc. That's why we have WFAN and BBI! It's a good thing a lot of the time. Except when it gets toxic, repetitive, and ignorant.
The fact is that absolutely no one on this website knows what goes into owning and running an NFL franchise. Unless Jeffrey Lurie is a lurker or something like that.
Durrrr but I run a successful company! I run a sports blog! I buy season tickets! Stop meddling! You're a billionaire just let "JOE SCHOEN" run your family business.
Franchises have bad stretches. The Giants have 4 Lombardi's and made the playoffs 2 years ago. Stop whining and thinking you know more than you do. Especially based on a few edited moments from HBO. Root for the laundry or don't.
The same people obsessing over this shit were blabbering weeks ago about how this show would be a distraction and NOT WHAT THIS FRANCHISE NEEDS! Now you can't get enough.
It is complete lunacy to think the person cutting the checks wouldn't be in the picture.
My impression of this thread is sad and pathetic. My impression of "Mara on hardknocks" - since we are not given much - is that he is dressed fresh and ready for the golf course, which is where I am sure a lot of you want him to be!
Extremely nice guy who would not be in charge of anything if it weren't for nepotism.
He is probably a great neighbor, friend, father, uncle etc. However, if he owned a business in any other industry besides the NFL (where you can be awful and still make $100s of millions) he would cost people jobs.
NTTAWWT. Fans often are out of touch, overly opinionated, etc. That's why we have WFAN and BBI! It's a good thing a lot of the time. Except when it gets toxic, repetitive, and ignorant.
The fact is that absolutely no one on this website knows what goes into owning and running an NFL franchise. Unless Jeffrey Lurie is a lurker or something like that.
Durrrr but I run a successful company! I run a sports blog! I buy season tickets! Stop meddling! You're a billionaire just let "JOE SCHOEN" run your family business.
Franchises have bad stretches. The Giants have 4 Lombardi's and made the playoffs 2 years ago. Stop whining and thinking you know more than you do. Especially based on a few edited moments from HBO. Root for the laundry or don't.
Statements are calculated? I for one think mara was ready to move on from Barkley yet saud the opposite to put a band aid on the wound. He did the same with Odell Beckham
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
(Not staying out of the way”.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
And we're seeing the tame, edited stuff. Can't imagine what they wouldn't allow the cameras to catch.
In the Maras defense - this offseason - it appears they did support Schoen's decisions, despite their objects - kudos their I suppose.
But one wonders - last year, and the Gettleman, Reese, Acorsi years prior - the whole "Giants Way GM" hires - what did the Mara dynamic look like? I'm guessing a lot more hands on - Especially with Chris Mara.
He seems to care.....about the players, about the Giants image and wants to win.
Can we do better....sure....but we can do far worse, too.
He seems to care.....about the players, about the Giants image and wants to win.
Can we do better....sure....but we can do far worse, too.
This is the crux of the matter.
Loyalty can be a virtue, but it can also be a vice.
Who the hell thinks there's down fill in that vest?
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I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
Yes In a perfect world it would be great that our 70 year old owner was more in touch with how NFL team needs to be built in today's landscape, I agree. But like I said, there is a lot editing on this and we might not see the whole picture, lets say there was footage of Mara saying, Saquan is crazy if he thinks we are paying him that kind of money, do think that Mara would want that cut from the footage?
But I am totally OK with owner stating his opinion and letting the football guys make the decision.
I am probably more concerned with Tim McDonnell since he comes off as John's mouth and ears in the day to day stuff. However, cant use Hard Knocks as full proof. There somethings watching Joe and his process, its possible that he like the devil's advocate approach and wants someone to give perceptive of how a decision would look to in the public eye.
I don't doubt that he has always roamed the hallways like he's shown on Hard Knocks and likely has had influence directly and indirectly in key decisions. That's his right as an owner. But any influence coming from him now is only a hindrance because the analytical reasoning is not there. You see it even in the made-for-TV portrayal of the Barkley interactions.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
Confused: "instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him."
So Gettleman did whatever Mara wanted? Or Gettleman did what his gut told him? Those seem like opposites.
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I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
You're not incorrect (sorry for the double negative).
However, it's his instincts that bother me (against with my tiresome Constanza analogy). This goes back to Coughlin-McAdoo-Shurmur-Judge and Gettleman. It goes back to his needless public comments about players when the Giants were in the midst of sensitive personnel decisions. And lurking in the background of all of this was the botched 2023 offseason. Throw in Hard Knocks proof that he is putting his hand on the scale, and the reaction is understandable.
That all said, Schoen got his way. At least this time.
I think you're pretty spot on with this assessment. But to add a point of emphasis to your last sentence - this dynamic that we are witnessing between Schoen & Mara is in the context of the team still reeling from an absolutely calamitous season.
In terms of influence, the Mara/McDonnell faction should currently be at its nadir because they are the ones who championed Jones/Saquon the most and it very obviously blew up in everybody's faces.
I believe that what is hanging over all of the discussions that we're seeing on Hard Knocks is an unspoken, but understood, truth that last off-season was a disaster and we can't repeat it.
But what happens if the Giants are improved? Will Mara be emboldened to push his opinions on personnel more forcefully?
This is a family business, and members of the family are going to make the final call on the big ticket items. And there will be breadsticks and endless pasta bowls.
The way the NFL operates, the Giants can (and have) stumble into stretches of good football. But the family influence will always be a hindrance.
At this point I'm trying to stop being angry about it and just come to accept it already. I want to enjoy Giants football again, even if they insist on making it difficult.
In winter, either the heat is blasting and un bearable or it's turned off and then building is cold and drafty. In summer, either the central air is on and freezing or it's off and unbearably hot.
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I dont understand the complaints or what people expect.
If anyone on this board was the owner of the Giants (including me), they would come of A LOT worse than Mara with their opinions.
He is not being a "my way or the highway guy."
He is also not an absentee owner which he has every right not to be, this team is not owned by an investment group.
He also does not want to look like a cut throat, I dont care about the players, so some of this is by design in the editing of the show.
He wants to portrayed as a owner who likes his players, he wants to tell guys like Saquan that I really like you, wish you could have been here but I am letting JS make the ultimate decision.
Even though he made comments about keeping Saquan, once he was told that they were moving on, he didnt put up a fight, he just agreed that he thought the Giants would be fine without him.
The best he has done recently was getting a guy like JS instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him. So he got a guy who gets data to support his opinions, lets the owner say their piece and lets the GM make the choice.
I dont see the big deal from some people.
Confused: "instead of having a softy like Gettleman who probably just did whatever the Mara questioned or whatever Gettleman gut told him."
So Gettleman did whatever Mara wanted? Or Gettleman did what his gut told him? Those seem like opposites.
I was just implying the decisions made probably fell into one of those 2 categories.
He allows Schoen to make the decisions.
I don't really see a problem.
I'd be willing to bet that if Mara did NOT offer his opinions, some BBIers would claim that Mara seems uninterested in the team's success.
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A down vest inside an office building all day.
I started that this winter...but then again my office is frigid most days. We have 2 temps in both Winter and Summer; boiling or freezing.
In winter, either the heat is blasting and un bearable or it's turned off and then building is cold and drafty. In summer, either the central air is on and freezing or it's off and unbearably hot.
Mara can't even regulate the temperature in his own building correctly!
This is a family business, and members of the family are going to make the final call on the big ticket items. And there will be breadsticks and endless pasta bowls.
The way the NFL operates, the Giants can (and have) stumble into stretches of good football. But the family influence will always be a hindrance.
At this point I'm trying to stop being angry about it and just come to accept it already. I want to enjoy Giants football again, even if they insist on making it difficult.
Guess Saquon wasn’t a “big ticket item”😂😂
Just wow.
Really old people.
You ain't kidding. Sometimes mods even try to run me off the site a few months before parroting the exact things I was posting. It's tough!
I can't think of the perfect word, but my one word so far would be 'unhelpful' - speaking specifically about the content in hard knocks.
The fact is that absolutely no one on this website knows what goes into owning and running an NFL franchise. Unless Jeffrey Lurie is a lurker or something like that.
Durrrr but I run a successful company! I run a sports blog! I buy season tickets! Stop meddling! You're a billionaire just let "JOE SCHOEN" run your family business.
Franchises have bad stretches. The Giants have 4 Lombardi's and made the playoffs 2 years ago. Stop whining and thinking you know more than you do. Especially based on a few edited moments from HBO. Root for the laundry or don't.
The same people obsessing over this shit were blabbering weeks ago about how this show would be a distraction and NOT WHAT THIS FRANCHISE NEEDS! Now you can't get enough.
It is complete lunacy to think the person cutting the checks wouldn't be in the picture.
My impression of this thread is sad and pathetic. My impression of "Mara on hardknocks" - since we are not given much - is that he is dressed fresh and ready for the golf course, which is where I am sure a lot of you want him to be!
Everything I've seen thus far of Mara has met expectations.
He is probably a great neighbor, friend, father, uncle etc. However, if he owned a business in any other industry besides the NFL (where you can be awful and still make $100s of millions) he would cost people jobs.
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
The fact is that absolutely no one on this website knows what goes into owning and running an NFL franchise. Unless Jeffrey Lurie is a lurker or something like that.
Durrrr but I run a successful company! I run a sports blog! I buy season tickets! Stop meddling! You're a billionaire just let "JOE SCHOEN" run your family business.
Franchises have bad stretches. The Giants have 4 Lombardi's and made the playoffs 2 years ago. Stop whining and thinking you know more than you do. Especially based on a few edited moments from HBO. Root for the laundry or don't.
They have had 1 winning season in 10 years.
They are 37-77 over the past 7 years.