Here we go again with another series thread. The Mets (49-46) are playing a Marlins team (33-63) that has the worst record in the National League & the second-worst record in MLB; only the White Sox (27-71) have a worse record. The Mets have gone 3-3 against the Marlins so far this season & will not play them again this season after this series. They need to take advantage of the weaker teams left on their schedule over the course of their remaining 67 regular season games such as this Marlins club they’re playing in this four-game set in Miami. Click
HERE to read a series preview. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @. Marlins: Game 1 –⚾Manaea (L) vs. Cabrera (R)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT
Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Miami against the Fish.
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY, but tomorrow’s game will be on WPIX.
-The weather for tonight's game won’t be an issue since LoanDepot Park has a retractable roof. They have it closed most of the time (70 of 81 home games). The heat will be just too much for it to be open now (click
HERE to see), so thankfully it won’t be a factor in this game or series. They usually retract their roof in early season games in April.
-The Mets have a record of 9-5 so far in July & are 7-3 in their last 10 games. As of the start of play today, they sit in sole possession of the final Wildcard spot, a game ahead of both the defending National League champion Diamondbacks & Padres. Click
HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL. The Mets have gone 27-13 in their last 40 games dating back to May 30th.
-Click
HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click
HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of
Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L). 
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stinks up the joint again. If they resign him, Stearns should get the pink slip.
Wow. Um no.
Um yeah. I'm not paying an aging corner infielder with a WAR of 1, no speed, and a below average defender jack shit. I'd be perfectly fine with Vientos at 1B, and Baty or Mauricio at third. Wouldn't think twice.
To add more context to my reply. I was more responding to the Stearns pink slip part. I dont think Alonso will be his decision. I think it will be Cohen’s.
I tend to agree on Alonso re-signing though. So many cheaper options
P.S. Manaea is done.
Id imagine it would be Baty over Gilbert right?
Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow in Miami against the Fish.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on WPIX & so will tomorrow’s game.
-The weather for today's game won’t be an issue since LoanDepot Park has a retractable roof. They have it closed most of the time (70 of 81 home games). The heat will be just too much for it to be open now (click HERE to see), so thankfully it won’t be a factor in this game or series. They usually retract their roof in early season games in April.
-The Mets have lost 4 of the 7 games they’ve played against the Marlins so far this season. Jeff McNeil had a day in the field & with his bat yesterday going 3 for 4 with 2 homers & 3 RBIs. (his 2nd career multi-H.R. game). If he can pick up his play over the last 67 games of the season, it’d be a huge boost to the team going forward. As of the start of the start of business today, the Mets are tied for the third Wildcard spot in the N.L. with the defending National League champion Diamondbacks. Click HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL.
-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Bader (R), & Gamel (L).
MLB.com Wildcard standings - Last updated: Jul 20th 9:03 AM ET
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So sick of him. I wish Gilbert was healthy so he could come up in his place.
P.S. Manaea is done.
Id imagine it would be Baty over Gilbert right?
Mets need a left-handed hitting outfield or outfielder, in that order. Baty is neither. Besides, Baty needs to continue getting consistent burn at Cuse. He won't up in the Show the way things are now. It's a shame Gilbert isn't healthy. Maybe DG will be ready to go on September 1st.
Everything you need to know about the 2024 Trade Deadline | July 17th, 2024 | MLB.com
Righties:
1) Díaz
2) Núñez
3) Maton
4) Ottavino
5) Buttó
6) Houser
Lefties:
7) Diekman
8) Young
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-Factor in the re-additions of Reed Garrett and possibly Sean Reid-Foley off of the Injured List, and you've got at least 1 change that would need to be made. to the list above.
-The trade deadline is another factor too. Who do they realistically look to add in the pen & at what price?
-Which pitchers might they look to promote from the minors to help in the pen so they can avoid paying a premium on the trade market for a top reliever like a Tanner Scott? At the end of the day, the Mets have not operated as a club that's "all-in" this year.
-Ottavino and Houser are both FAs after the season. If the Mets need to get rid of one of them to make additions to the roster it's either trade time or DFA time.
-Megill, Montes de Oca, Orze, Vasil, and Hamel are righties who can come up form Syracuse form the right side. Fujinami and Hartwing are hurt.
-Gage, Alex Young, and Lucchesi are healthy southpaws who can be called up from 'Cuse. Nate Lavender would have been an intriguing option from the left-side, but he's out for the year. Damn shame.
Mets @ Marlins | 4:10 pm EDT start - July 20, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – WPIX: Gary & Keith (thestreameast.to)
Mets @ Marlins | 4:10 pm EDT start - July 20, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Marlins' feed – Bally Sports Florida (strfish.xyz)
MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Marlins – July 20, 2024 - 4:10 pm EDT start
Note: Ron isn’t calling the game today.
Enjoy today's game 😊
All good man. When in doubt, click our links! I'll always post where the games are televised. I know it can get hairy at times. Hope you're re-adjusting well BBNH.
-The streameast one was a lil wonky for me.
They showed a stat earlier that the Nats are 7-0 against them so far this year, lol.
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Instead, they come out of the all star break limping. Get it going, boys.
They showed a stat earlier that the Nats are 7-0 against them so far this year, lol.
Meanwhile, the Marlins have won 4 out of 7 against the Mets.
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Instead, they come out of the all star break limping. Get it going, boys.
They showed a stat earlier that the Nats are 7-0 against them so far this year, lol.
Meanwhile, the Marlins have won 4 out of 7 against the Mets.
Yep. Wild, ain't it? Posted it earlier in my starting lineups post for today. Mets need to win this series. Full stop. They won't play this team again the rest of the year. These turkeys are the worst team in the N.L. and second-worst overall in MLB. 3 out of 4 is imperative against them before they play teams with winning records again soon to conclude this month (the Yanks, Braves, and Twins).
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2 H
0 R
0 ER
3 BB
7 K
0 HR
3.58 ERA
1 HBP (Burger)
6 groundouts, 2 flyouts
25 batters faced
I agree. Was about to say this. Leave Butto in there. He can do the job for another inning. Then bring in the closer (gulp).
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Bring in Nunez here? Leave Butto in. Mendoza needs to define these pen roles.
I agree. Was about to say this. Leave Butto in there. He can do the job for another inning. Then bring in the closer (gulp).
Would have saved him and Butto can go multi innings. Nunez might do the job well tonight but seemed unnecessary.
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Bring in Nunez here? Leave Butto in. Mendoza needs to define these pen roles.
I agree. Was about to say this. Leave Butto in there. He can do the job for another inning. Then bring in the closer (gulp).
Would have saved him and Butto can go multi innings. Nunez might do the job well tonight but seemed unnecessary.
Definitely seemed unnecessary. These guys get too cute. Now Nunez won't be available tomorrow. I don't like it one bit.
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Won't lie. I had dee agita, lol.
Totally disagree. It's a house of cards with him a bit and he's getting older. I'd trade him at the deadline.
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him for a few more years.
Totally disagree. It's a house of cards with him a bit and he's getting older. I'd trade him at the deadline.
house of cards does not seem to be the right description. gets a ton of ground balls and very few barrels. a lot of weak contact from a guy throwing upper 90's into the middle/later innings is not a house of cards in my book. walks are manageable. pitching almost exactly to his career era/whip.
he's currently logged the 17th most innings of any SP and most above him have thrown 1 or 2 more games. he is only 15 ip behind #1.
im not giving him a massive extension or anything but im totally comfortable with a QO if he continues pitching to his career avgs while logging heavy innings.
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him for a few more years.
Totally disagree. It's a house of cards with him a bit and he's getting older. I'd trade him at the deadline.
house of cards does not seem to be the right description. gets a ton of ground balls and very few barrels. a lot of weak contact from a guy throwing upper 90's into the middle/later innings is not a house of cards in my book. walks are manageable. pitching almost exactly to his career era/whip.
he's currently logged the 17th most innings of any SP and most above him have thrown 1 or 2 more games. he is only 15 ip behind #1.
im not giving him a massive extension or anything but im totally comfortable with a QO if he continues pitching to his career avgs while logging heavy innings.
Yeah house of cards was a bit too much but long term I don't see this continuing. A QO is fine but I don't really want him here long term. I'd sell while his value is raised but that probably won't be viable.
and on top of that you'd be lowering the odds of success this year.
im curious though, what do you see as not sustainable for Severino? the velocity is there and almost everything works off that for any pitcher spin, movement, etc. by the advanced pitching models he has basically the best stuff/command on the team. 2nd best FB to only megill (sss) and his slider (22%) is the best pitch on the whole team.
in his prior years (when the nyy QO'd him) the problems were non-arm related injuries (obviously havent happened yet, knock on wood) and getting hit very hard (which also hasn't happened yet). the rumor was pitch tipping, and given the velocity/quality of contact suppression so far this year that seems to line up. i believe severino also only just started working with driveline recently, so with his sinker usage at it's highest rate along with gb%, it appears he has made some changes that may be sustainable.
Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow in Miami against the Fish.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on WPIX again, but tomorrow’s game will be on SNY.
-The weather for today's game won’t be an issue since LoanDepot Park has a retractable roof (there will be thunderstorms outside for the first part of today's game incidentally). They have it closed most of the time (70 of 81 home games). The heat will be just too much for it to be open now (click HERE to see), so thankfully it won’t be a factor in this game or series. They usually retract their roof in early season games in April.
-The Mets have a record of 26-14 since June 1st. Yesterday’s win was only their second shutout of an opponent this season. As of the start of play today, they’re tied with the D-backs for the third & final N.L. Wildcard spot. Click HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL.
-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Alvarez (R), McNeil (L), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L).
and on top of that you'd be lowering the odds of success this year.
im curious though, what do you see as not sustainable for Severino? the velocity is there and almost everything works off that for any pitcher spin, movement, etc. by the advanced pitching models he has basically the best stuff/command on the team. 2nd best FB to only megill (sss) and his slider (22%) is the best pitch on the whole team.
in his prior years (when the nyy QO'd him) the problems were non-arm related injuries (obviously havent happened yet, knock on wood) and getting hit very hard (which also hasn't happened yet). the rumor was pitch tipping, and given the velocity/quality of contact suppression so far this year that seems to line up. i believe severino also only just started working with driveline recently, so with his sinker usage at it's highest rate along with gb%, it appears he has made some changes that may be sustainable.
Declining K rate and pitching to contact isn't as sustainable year to year as I would like. You can have a unlucky year and get BABIPd and have your ERA go up a full run plus. It's just not the type of pitcher I'd go for.
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which would functionally mean another pick next year along the lines of Eli Serrano or Trey Snyder. And instead of having to find a player of that quality they like from whatever handful of teams are willing to trade for Sevy, they could pick from an entire draft of players.
and on top of that you'd be lowering the odds of success this year.
im curious though, what do you see as not sustainable for Severino? the velocity is there and almost everything works off that for any pitcher spin, movement, etc. by the advanced pitching models he has basically the best stuff/command on the team. 2nd best FB to only megill (sss) and his slider (22%) is the best pitch on the whole team.
in his prior years (when the nyy QO'd him) the problems were non-arm related injuries (obviously havent happened yet, knock on wood) and getting hit very hard (which also hasn't happened yet). the rumor was pitch tipping, and given the velocity/quality of contact suppression so far this year that seems to line up. i believe severino also only just started working with driveline recently, so with his sinker usage at it's highest rate along with gb%, it appears he has made some changes that may be sustainable.
Declining K rate and pitching to contact isn't as sustainable year to year as I would like. You can have a unlucky year and get BABIPd and have your ERA go up a full run plus. It's just not the type of pitcher I'd go for.
problem is the other type of pitcher is almost impossible to get and if so extremely expensive. everyone wants guys with electric strikeout stuff so they are the most expensive, and also often the most risky in terms of injury. sometimes also the wildest in terms of control and year to year performance fluctuations (like snell).
finding starting pitching is generally selecting from the best of non-ideal options. paying through the roof included as one of those non-ideal options even if its for the best guy. we'd all love to get a CY like burnes in the offseason but he's probably going to cost $200m+ and he too has some declining peripherals relying more on groundballs - plus almost 1k big league innings on his arm.
Yes, I’m kidding. I’m really curious to see how he holds up post-TJ.