Here we go again with another series thread. The Mets (49-46) are playing a Marlins team (33-63) that has the worst record in the National League & the second-worst record in MLB; only the White Sox (27-71) have a worse record. The Mets have gone 3-3 against the Marlins so far this season & will not play them again this season after this series. They need to take advantage of the weaker teams left on their schedule over the course of their remaining 67 regular season games such as this Marlins club they’re playing in this four-game set in Miami. Click
HERE to read a series preview. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @. Marlins: Game 1 –⚾Manaea (L) vs. Cabrera (R)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT
Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Miami against the Fish.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY, but tomorrow’s game will be on WPIX.
-The weather for tonight's game won’t be an issue since LoanDepot Park has a retractable roof. They have it closed most of the time (70 of 81 home games). The heat will be just too much for it to be open now (click
HERE to see), so thankfully it won’t be a factor in this game or series. They usually retract their roof in early season games in April.
-The Mets have a record of 9-5 so far in July & are 7-3 in their last 10 games. As of the start of play today, they sit in sole possession of the final Wildcard spot, a game ahead of both the defending National League champion Diamondbacks & Padres. Click
HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL. The Mets have gone 27-13 in their last 40 games dating back to May 30th.
-Click
HERE to see the list of Mets transactions for July.
-Click
HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of
Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L). 
Mets @ Marlins | 1:40 pm EDT start - July 21, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – WPIX: Gary & Keith (strfish.xyz)
Mets @ Marlins | 1:40 pm EDT start - July 21, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Marlins' feed – Bally Sports Florida (strfish.xyz)
MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Marlins – July 21, 2024 - 1:40 pm EDT start
Note: Ron isn’t calling the game today.
Enjoy today's game 😊
Plus, how do the Mets remain to be the SLOWEST team in the league year after year.
SCORE SOME FUCKING RUNS
Yeah. Hauser.
it's mind boggling. he had that one brief hot streak but other than that he has been a total waste of a roster spot no less hitting middle order.
i get that he's unplayable vs LHP and that spot that makes it harder to throw a lefty at him, but that's backwards thinking. if your dog shits all over the house it may be correct to take off your nicest shoes before entering, but it's also missing the point re the real problem.
I have been a big supporter, but....
I have been a big supporter, but....
It’s still very unlikely, but we can’t rule out Alonso accepting the QO and trying again next year to get a big contract. A team giving up a 2nd round pick and paying Alonso $60M+ isn’t a foregone conclusion at this point.
(Hopefully Alonso hits 10HR over the next few weeks and makes this post age poorly)
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Comes up 1st and 3rd one out and I'm thinking, jeez Pete just don't hit into a DP.
I have been a big supporter, but....
It’s still very unlikely, but we can’t rule out Alonso accepting the QO and trying again next year to get a big contract. A team giving up a 2nd round pick and paying Alonso $60M+ isn’t a foregone conclusion at this point.
(Hopefully Alonso hits 10HR over the next few weeks and makes this post age poorly)
the QO has always been an underrated strategy. review any of the names from the 3-7th round this year and they are probably more interesting prospects than the mets would likely have to choose from for a rental having a down season. Dohm (797k) and Serrano (697k) have already signed for close to what the QO return would be. comp picks next year will probably slot about 550k. slot for trey snyder is 476k and he likely gets over that.
alvarez has had some bad at bats. i know vientos isnt playing but they've both hit a tough stretch with some non-competitive k's.
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And all we could do is 1 run on a HBP against that ham ‘n egger?
alvarez has had some bad at bats. i know vientos isnt playing but they've both hit a tough stretch with some non-competitive k's.
I didn't want to mention it but Alvarez has gone ice cold. Not concerned but his ISO is also .50 points lower than last year. Not sure if he's doing something differently but I haven't seen that power we got used to last year. I know overall last year he was below average with the bat and so far not this year but his expected stats are lower than his real numbers. Again not a shred of concern as he's a 22 year old C still playing good D and the bat will come around eventually.
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Comes up 1st and 3rd one out and I'm thinking, jeez Pete just don't hit into a DP.
I have been a big supporter, but....
It’s still very unlikely, but we can’t rule out Alonso accepting the QO and trying again next year to get a big contract. A team giving up a 2nd round pick and paying Alonso $60M+ isn’t a foregone conclusion at this point.
(Hopefully Alonso hits 10HR over the next few weeks and makes this post age poorly)
I'd trade Alonso for a top-notch reliever and a bag of balls. He has zero clue at the plate. Couldn't hit a slider with a 50-inch bat. I wouldn't even offer the QO for the fear he might take it.
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And all we could do is 1 run on a HBP against that ham ‘n egger?
alvarez has had some bad at bats. i know vientos isnt playing but they've both hit a tough stretch with some non-competitive k's.
I didn't want to mention it but Alvarez has gone ice cold. Not concerned but his ISO is also .50 points lower than last year. Not sure if he's doing something differently but I haven't seen that power we got used to last year. I know overall last year he was below average with the bat and so far not this year but his expected stats are lower than his real numbers. Again not a shred of concern as he's a 22 year old C still playing good D and the bat will come around eventually.
these are the offensive ups and downs all young players go through. look at how many years it took bohm.
that's where there is hidden value in a young player who can at least play good d like alvarez. it affords a lot more time to develop consistency with the bat.
(also why i wouldn't be so quick to think vientos would effortlessly replace alonso, or any prospect no matter how highly ranked replace any all star for that matter)
Heck of a nice catch by Bader this inning! Maton looking solid.
That's a way more interesting decision. He's having his best year in a long time and he does have a lengthy injury history I believe which he's avoided so far this year. What's the QO amount for this year? Do you really think he'd get more than the QO on the open market?
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another guy id probably QO and not take for granted being so easily replaced by a young guy (be it acuna or gilbert).
That's a way more interesting decision. He's having his best year in a long time and he does have a lengthy injury history I believe which he's avoided so far this year. What's the QO amount for this year? Do you really think he'd get more than the QO on the open market?
not sure but i assume the QO is around 1 year 18-20m.
he would not get that AAV on the open market but i could see someone offering a 2x25m or 3x36m or something like that, would he take it to have some extra security?
i doubt anyone offers that with the QO attached though, so i think he'd probably accept the QO.
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another guy id probably QO and not take for granted being so easily replaced by a young guy (be it acuna or gilbert).
That's a way more interesting decision. He's having his best year in a long time and he does have a lengthy injury history I believe which he's avoided so far this year. What's the QO amount for this year? Do you really think he'd get more than the QO on the open market?
not sure but i assume the QO is around 1 year 18-20m.
he would not get that AAV on the open market but i could see someone offering a 2x25m or 3x36m or something like that, would he take it to have some extra security?
i doubt anyone offers that with the QO attached though, so i think he'd probably accept the QO.
At that point you're paying him too much then.
Phew got the W. Bring on the yanks again.
more familia than benitez, no long balls and lots of bad fielding. lucky to get out with a split. onward.
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another guy id probably QO and not take for granted being so easily replaced by a young guy (be it acuna or gilbert).
That's a way more interesting decision. He's having his best year in a long time and he does have a lengthy injury history I believe which he's avoided so far this year. What's the QO amount for this year? Do you really think he'd get more than the QO on the open market?
not sure but i assume the QO is around 1 year 18-20m.
he would not get that AAV on the open market but i could see someone offering a 2x25m or 3x36m or something like that, would he take it to have some extra security?
i doubt anyone offers that with the QO attached though, so i think he'd probably accept the QO.
To date, the QO # has never gone down.
20.32 last season, 19.65 the season prior, 18.4 before that. Safe to assume it’s probably closer to 21 than 18
FIP near 5 and underlying data is terrible. Very much doubt they add him
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do the Mets have a shot? He's been solid this year.
FIP near 5 and underlying data is terrible. Very much doubt they add him
Doesn’t get much worse than this
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LA would not have dropped him if they thought he had anything left in the tank.
Don't think this really told us anything that we couldn't figure out on our own. Still going to be an important week for the team playing better teams. Braves are falling though with all their injuries. The lineup they put out yesterday was not good. Even their healthy stars have underperformed.
Imagine where he (and more importantly the Mets) would be if he didn't take the first month and a half of the season off.
like I have said all along, April games matter and it's not ok (to me) to say "he's a slow starter" and shoulder shrug because by the end of the season his personal statistics will be great.
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Francisco Lindor is now 7th in baseball in fWAR, 3rd in the NL and tied for 2nd among NL SS’s (De La Cruz) 129, trailing only Mookie Betts. He’s also 2nd in SB’s among NL SS’s and 1st in HR’s (2nd behind Henderson league wide) #Mets
Imagine where he (and more importantly the Mets) would be if he didn't take the first month and a half of the season off.
like I have said all along, April games matter and it's not ok (to me) to say "he's a slow starter" and shoulder shrug because by the end of the season his personal statistics will be great.
From 5/1 until now he’s 5th in fWAR, from 4/1 until now he’s 6th. To suggest he had a bad 6 weeks is completely false. He had a terrible first 2 weeks. From April 15th aka mid April until the end of the month he was 17th in fWAR.
His OPS over the following 43 games was .804
Players have ups and downs, right down to Ohtani
His OPS over the following 43 games was .804
Players have ups and downs, right down to Ohtani
Yup from April 14 through yesterday he's at .282/.355/.513 with 18 HR and 20 SB. Yes he had a really bad first 2 weeks but he's been money since.
His OPS over the following 43 games was .804
Players have ups and downs, right down to Ohtani
Final note on Lindor is, yes he had a horrendous start but why would he slow start be “what if?” And not the games that followed where he and Nimmo at times have carried the entire lineup. If Lindor didn’t have that slow start he’d probably the favorite for NL MVP. He’s #1 in the NL in fWAR since 5/1, a span of 70 games.