Here we go again with another series thread. The Mets (49-46) are playing a Marlins team (33-63) that has the worst record in the National League & the second-worst record in MLB; only the White Sox (27-71) have a worse record. The Mets have gone 3-3 against the Marlins so far this season & will not play them again this season after this series. They need to take advantage of the weaker teams left on their schedule over the course of their remaining 67 regular season games such as this Marlins club they’re playing in this four-game set in Miami. Click
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Mets @. Marlins: Game 1 –⚾Manaea (L) vs. Cabrera (R)⚾– 7:10 pm EDT
Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Miami against the Fish.
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on SNY, but tomorrow’s game will be on WPIX.
-The weather for tonight's game won’t be an issue since LoanDepot Park has a retractable roof. They have it closed most of the time (70 of 81 home games). The heat will be just too much for it to be open now (click
HERE to see), so thankfully it won’t be a factor in this game or series. They usually retract their roof in early season games in April.
-The Mets have a record of 9-5 so far in July & are 7-3 in their last 10 games. As of the start of play today, they sit in sole possession of the final Wildcard spot, a game ahead of both the defending National League champion Diamondbacks & Padres. Click
HERE to see the Wildcard standings for both the NL & the AL. The Mets have gone 27-13 in their last 40 games dating back to May 30th.
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-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of
Torrens (R), Taylor (R), Stewart (L), & Gamel (L). 
We were starting to touch on this last night. Needs to get going again. Alonso at a 75 wRC+ in July. He at least had a big June.
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Has an 87 wRC+ in July with 0 HR’s and a 32% k% and you almost wouldn’t even know it from fans. Love Alvy but that’s a major benefit of having a player like Lindor on and off the field
We were starting to touch on this last night. Needs to get going again. Alonso at a 75 wRC+ in July. He at least had a big June.
Love Alvarez, not looking to dump on him but it’s been largely gone unnoticed how poorly he’s been hitting in July, JDM as well. Alvarez looks like he’s standing even further from the plate than usual for some reason
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Has an 87 wRC+ in July with 0 HR’s and a 32% k% and you almost wouldn’t even know it from fans. Love Alvy but that’s a major benefit of having a player like Lindor on and off the field
We were starting to touch on this last night. Needs to get going again. Alonso at a 75 wRC+ in July. He at least had a big June.
Love Alvarez, not looking to dump on him but it’s been largely gone unnoticed how poorly he’s been hitting in July, JDM as well. Alvarez looks like he’s standing even further from the plate than usual for some reason
I get it. I was basically saying the same thing last night. Didn't notice him standing further away, interesting.
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another guy id probably QO and not take for granted being so easily replaced by a young guy (be it acuna or gilbert).
That's a way more interesting decision. He's having his best year in a long time and he does have a lengthy injury history I believe which he's avoided so far this year. What's the QO amount for this year? Do you really think he'd get more than the QO on the open market?
not sure but i assume the QO is around 1 year 18-20m.
he would not get that AAV on the open market but i could see someone offering a 2x25m or 3x36m or something like that, would he take it to have some extra security?
i doubt anyone offers that with the QO attached though, so i think he'd probably accept the QO.
To date, the QO # has never gone down.
20.32 last season, 19.65 the season prior, 18.4 before that. Safe to assume it’s probably closer to 21 than 18
thank you i had 18 in my head from last year for some reason but probably thinking back to a prior year with conforto or bassitt.
in his case if you do it you are overpaying for 1 year of flexibility. id agree with you that based on what we've seen from stearns and the market over the last year, i doubt they do that. i might because i like the flexibility of 1 year prove it deals and i do think someone could offer him something like 3x40m in FA which i wouldnt feel so comfortable with bc of his injury history.
just like alvarez he's still a young player so these things are going to happen.
i completely agree with alonso pulling the anti-judge and i would 100% bet that at some point every single day he thinks about the $158m he passed on wishing he could get a do-over. who wouldnt in that situation? anyone who says they wouldnt is a liar.
Good. Pete is arrogant and stupid. Nobody is paying in FA. Let him crawl back to the Mets with his tail between his legs and take less.
I kid, I kid.
Maybe Pete should get out of the Clean-Up spot for a while.
Trouble is.....there's really nobody hot enough right now.
Maybe Mendoza was on to something when he batted McNeil in the Clean-Up spot the first few games of the season.
He hits like Stewart. Does he at least have some glove left is the question.
And Whit promptly injured a finger in pre-game warmups....Ouch.
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RHP Christian Scott has been placed on the 15-day IL, retroactive to July 22, with a right UCL sprain.
LHP Alex Young has been recalled from Triple-A Syracuse.
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News: The Mets put Christian Scott on the IL with a UCL sprain.
No word yet on the severity of the sprain or if he will need surgery.
Lefthander Alex Young is called up from Syracuse.
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RHP Christian Scott has been placed on the 15-day IL, retroactive to July 22, with a right UCL sprain.
LHP Alex Young has been recalled from Triple-A Syracuse.
Does this likely mean Tommy John?
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RHP Christian Scott has been placed on the 15-day IL, retroactive to July 22, with a right UCL sprain.
LHP Alex Young has been recalled from Triple-A Syracuse.
Does this likely mean Tommy John?
It's one possibility depending on the severity of the tear, yes. *If* he needed TJ, he'd likely miss all of 2025.
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News: The Mets put Christian Scott on the IL with a UCL sprain.
No word yet on the severity of the sprain or if he will need surgery.
Lefthander Alex Young is called up from Syracuse.
Oh man. Can't have nice things.
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Carlos Mendoza says that Christian Scott complained of discomfort in his elbow after his start in Miami.
Mendoza says the Mets are still waiting for clarity on whether Scott has a sprain or a tear.
'd be interested in Detmers. HR's have killed him in the PCL but 11.84 k/9, 2.84 BB/9, 3.98 xFIP, .351 BABIP. I have no clue what the cost would be but he'd be an intriguing target (3 years of control left)
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JBJ to @mets has been rumored/suggested for years now. David Stearns had JBJ with him in Milwaukee in 2021. Bradley his .163/.236/.261 over a full season with the Brewers #Mets
He hits like Stewart. Does he at least have some glove left is the question.
What is it with these guys always wanting to sign under performing nobody’s that used to be in their former organization.
Because I am less concerned with Lindor's fWAR or any individual numbers than I am with the Mets wins/losses.
IMO Lindor's awful start was a key reason for the Mets woes to start the season. Its obviously a team game and I'm not pinning anything just on him, but he's the Mets best player he should bear more of the blame and he was worse than everyone else. Shit, Aaron Judge was booed in Yankee Stadium. Lindor deserved the criticism.
And if you focus on margin between playoffs vs no playoffs or home game in the playoffs vs away game in the playoff or division vs wild card it often comes down to one game. And so often people focus on the last game of the season or the last week of the season, but never acknowledge if that one more win came in April it wouldn't possibly have come down to the last week or last game of the season.
April wins matter as much as September wins.
So, my response to the zero he was offensively and defensively in April is not shoulder shrug "he's a slow starter" - it's not ok. He needs to be better in April and every April he has like this year he should be criticized.
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it was also clear lindor's slump was driven by bad luck over a small sample, which i explained at the time.
his BABIP in march/april was .198. it has been above .270 every month since.
it wasnt a contact quality issue either - his expected stats were also unlucky (still are). his xba is .281, his actual is .255. his xslg is .527, actual slug is .463.
but his babip is .323, exactly the same as it was in June when he batted 60 points higher and ops'd 244 points higher, so it's not his fault. it's just bad luck.
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hitting .212 with a 34% k-rate. just 1 homer and 2 doubles.
but his babip is .323, exactly the same as it was in June when he batted 60 points higher and ops'd 244 points higher, so it's not his fault. it's just bad luck.
sounds like you dont know how babip works. it actually means the exact opposite of what you just said. he has hit poorly despite having the exact same luck, which is actually good luck relative to league average. more of his balls in play have fallen in for hits than typically happens league wide - and he has still put up a bad month.
94 pitches but got through the key part of order. could go either way.
I don't think it works that quick haha. Made up for his awful base running mistake earlier.
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hitting .212 with a 34% k-rate. just 1 homer and 2 doubles.
but his babip is .323, exactly the same as it was in June when he batted 60 points higher and ops'd 244 points higher, so it's not his fault. it's just bad luck.
sounds like you dont know how babip works. it actually means the exact opposite of what you just said. he has hit poorly despite having the exact same luck, which is actually good luck relative to league average. more of his balls in play have fallen in for hits than typically happens league wide - and he has still put up a bad month.
Sounds like you don't know how it works. Every player is not the same. Different type of hitters and player generally find different babip sustainable.
for his 14 year career, almost 1600 games and almost 6000 at-bats JDM has a .341 babip. ~20 points higher than his 2024 July.
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hitting .212 with a 34% k-rate. just 1 homer and 2 doubles.
but his babip is .323, exactly the same as it was in June when he batted 60 points higher and ops'd 244 points higher, so it's not his fault. it's just bad luck.
sounds like you dont know how babip works. it actually means the exact opposite of what you just said. he has hit poorly despite having the exact same luck, which is actually good luck relative to league average. more of his balls in play have fallen in for hits than typically happens league wide - and he has still put up a bad month.
Sounds like you don't know how it works. Every player is not the same. Different type of hitters and player generally find different babip sustainable.
for his 14 year career, almost 1600 games and almost 6000 at-bats JDM has a .341 babip. ~20 points higher than his 2024 July.
uh still wrong. a 20 point difference in babip is not considered substantial, and certainly isnt if a player is already above the normal range in the "lucky" range. there is always going to be a normal deviation and JDM's july was almost exactly the same as his full season last year as well as his june this year.
a 90 point difference in babip below career average is a much more substantial deviation.
the differences between JDM last year (135 rc), this June (153 rc) and this July (< 90 rc after tonight) at almost the exact same .323 babip isn't luck. he struck out more and hit just 3 xbh instead of 11 in june. it's not complicated. he hit for less power and struck out more.
trend is pretty obvious and it should go without needing explanation that how often a batter barrels a baseball has absolutely nothing to do with fielders since the former happens or doesnt before the ball is in play in the first play.