Jeremy Fowler
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Veteran guard Greg Van Roten is making a free agent visit to the #Giants, per source. Van Roten played well as a starter for the Raiders last year. |
started all 17 games at RG last year, 0 penalties and 5 sacks allowed. graded very well. 100+ career games played and 71 career starts. he's 34 years old and last year was likely an outlier, but would be a very nice depth signing.
and Eric for sure we want the best player at each OL position: but we also do not want a repeat of last year’s camp of musical chairs when no chemistry or feel or trust was built. Gotta let Bricillo be the maestro here.
Galling to see Feliciano there.And the disappointment with Neal threatens to become deeper still
and Eric for sure we want the best player at each OL position: but we also do not want a repeat of last year’s camp of musical chairs when no chemistry or feel or trust was built. Gotta let Bricillo be the maestro here.
Galling to see Feliciano there.And the disappointment with Neal threatens to become deeper still
van roten was probably willing to wait until the last minute hoping that a deal like that materialized for him before being willing to sign closer to minimum.
At least it would appear that they are preparing should that be the case.
It might take a while to completely get Neel back on the field and right - both mentally and physically.
Nothing wrong with having a contingency plan.
Another potential starter and quality back up
No-brainer
a more proven backup C in case JMS struggles would be the only remaining area of potential concern.
He might not be. But fans have anticipated (and wanted) Eluemunor to be our new RT since he was signed. If we sign GVW and we find out on Wednesday that Neal is starting the year on PUP and Eluemunor is going to be the RT, not too many people are going to be that upset.
The fact that, per Eric on Li he's coming off his best year as a pro
That's my takeaway, they need to hedge against him not only being a straight-up bust but also not being available.
Get it done Schoen!
We may know that soon. I think the lack of news about Neal may be news itself.
Get it done Schoen!
Agreed, would be a great signing. I would certainly let Neal earn a job, but by no means should he be handed a starting position.
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of this is making me nervous.... is Neal not ready?
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We may know that soon. I think the lack of news about Neal may be news itself.
This bit I don't buy. Teams keep injury news close to the vest as a matter of course. If Neal is still hobbled, it changes the negotiation with GVW, if there is to be one. Nobody knew that Theo Johnson had a hip issue until last week, but that we didn't know anything wasn't news.
Lmao what a stupid stupid idea regarding to playing them out of position all spring… what OL geniuses we have had in our building the past decade
Looks like the strategy is to be able to have choices among multiple players at most OL positions and get that group together early in the preseason as opposed to all the rotations they did last year late into the preseason.
If Neal isn’t ready, don’t count on him / bring him back too soon.
Lmao what a stupid stupid idea regarding to playing them out of position all spring… what OL geniuses we have had in our building the past decade
what they do in the spring hardly matters. no contact, very few team reps. neal wasnt in bc he was hurt. the training camp/preseason reps in pads together is what matters, and id rather not chase whatever the choices were a few weeks ago than put people in their best spots.
Of course, nothing has been confirmed, but this is certainly interesting. Now, maybe they have had a chance to evaluate this spring and feel other depth options won't hurt, but still, I think Neal's health is an issue.
Of course, nothing has been confirmed, but this is certainly interesting. Now, maybe they have had a chance to evaluate this spring and feel other depth options won't hurt, but still, I think Neal's health is an issue.
All of that may be true but Ezeudu has been injured a lot (including neck), Marcus M McKethan has been injured and shown little, we may have decided that keeping the middle protected is far more important with a more north south runners like Singletary and Gray.. Keeping Jones feet and knees clear most important as well..
AT - JRJ - JMS - GVR - Eluemunor
Of course the hope is Neal wins a spot. But this is very good insurance, especially this late in the off-season.
Lmao what a stupid stupid idea regarding to playing them out of position all spring… what OL geniuses we have had in our building the past decade
I get the Elumenor criticism, but how the hell is Runyan "out of position" at RG?? Look at his snap counts with the Packers..
Maybe I missed it, but has Neal done anything physical at all yet to show he is ready to play? Perhaps we should be more nervous if they think Neal is ready :)
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and perhaps other posters read between the Tea leaves as well, but there was a lot of smoke about Neal not being ready in the spring, and the giants really weren't clear about saying that he "Should" be ready for camp. I said that when camp started I suspected there was going to be a problem with Neal's health.
Of course, nothing has been confirmed, but this is certainly interesting. Now, maybe they have had a chance to evaluate this spring and feel other depth options won't hurt, but still, I think Neal's health is an issue.
All of that may be true but Ezeudu has been injured a lot (including neck), Marcus M McKethan has been injured and shown little, we may have decided that keeping the middle protected is far more important with a more north south runners like Singletary and Gray.. Keeping Jones feet and knees clear most important as well..
May the names Ezeudu and Mckethan never be echoed here again on this good website because both are poor…..as is Neal. What a horrible draft of OL guys. I guess Bobby Johnson liked them. That explains it.
And went to U Penn
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In comment 16557007 Eric from BBI said:
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of this is making me nervous.... is Neal not ready?
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We may know that soon. I think the lack of news about Neal may be news itself.
This bit I don't buy. Teams keep injury news close to the vest as a matter of course. If Neal is still hobbled, it changes the negotiation with GVW, if there is to be one. Nobody knew that Theo Johnson had a hip issue until last week, but that we didn't know anything wasn't news.
What the hell are you babbling about and who is GVW? Do you mean Greg Van Roten?
Neal never seems to be ready.I understand continuing to give him a chance at RT to justify the 1st round pick, but unless he's in far better condition than before, he's not quick enough to stop outside rushers. Move him inside where he'd have some protection & they might find out they have a solid RG!
would seem to indicate that all may not be well with Evan Neal. But maybe at this stage the entire Giants organization is desperate to capitalize on the potential of Malik Nabers/Wan'Dale Robinson/Jalin Hyatt/Darius Slayton, and if that means they have to make a very short-term pivot with GVR at Guard and Jermaine Eluemunor at Right Tacke... then so be it.
Lmao what a stupid stupid idea regarding to playing them out of position all spring… what OL geniuses we have had in our building the past decade
Spring practice is meaningless for the lines, it is no contact. Real practice starts tomorrow.
Lmao what a stupid stupid idea regarding to playing them out of position all spring… what OL geniuses we have had in our building the past decade
Spring practice is meaningless for the lines, it is no contact. Nothing is set yet, real practice starts tomorrow.
The workout could have been a favor by the new O-line coach because he is not getting offers
even when he's ready, he's not ready
Pretty much. I thought they were a guard short coming into training camp. This would solve it.
P.S. I don't think Neal will finish the season as the starting RT. Hell, he'll be lucky to start the season at this rate IMO.
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of this is making me nervous.... is Neal not ready?
Neal never seems to be ready.I understand continuing to give him a chance at RT to justify the 1st round pick, but unless he's in far better condition than before, he's not quick enough to stop outside rushers. Move him inside where he'd have some protection & they might find out they have a solid RG!
I think LG would be better for him. It's his natural side and he'd be next to their best OL in Andrew Thomas on his left.