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Neal placed on PUP list

JoeyBigBlue : 7/23/2024 4:26 pm
For the start of camp

Just got the alert
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You simply cannot  
Josh in the City : 7/23/2024 4:28 pm : link
go into this season trusting him to the your RT under any circumstance.
If you cross out the "P"  
Sky King : 7/23/2024 4:32 pm : link
Ya nailed it.
My concern when Neal was drafted  
JonC : 7/23/2024 4:34 pm : link
was he might be too big to succeed and stay healthy under NFL wear and tear. It's not unusual. Beckton gave me similar vibes.
shocking  
section125 : 7/23/2024 4:35 pm : link
BBI will be jumping out of windows...
makes sense why they brought in  
johnnyb : 7/23/2024 4:36 pm : link
Greg Van Roten for a look. Maybe it was more than a look.
RE: If you cross out the  
Scooter185 : 7/23/2024 4:37 pm : link
In comment 16557765 Sky King said:
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Ya nailed it.


I was going to ask which one, but I guess either works
SHOCKER that Aaron Robinson is  
FranknWeezer : 7/23/2024 4:38 pm : link
on that list as well.
Hope he gets healthy soon  
bceagle05 : 7/23/2024 4:38 pm : link
and thrives in a backup role.
I see a William Roberts  
jvm52106 : 7/23/2024 4:39 pm : link
move to Guard in the future if his career is to be salvaged. While it is too early to freak out the fact is he has been injured a decent amount and he has not exactly been stellar when healthy.
This is when we find out what Schabs are really made of …  
Spider56 : 7/23/2024 4:40 pm : link
Neal was their guy and they simply cannot go deep into camp without being 100% sure of his status and availability. They have maybe 2-3 weeks at most to either get him on the field in pads or execute plan B … and plan B must include someone not currently on the roster.
Gotta hope JE is running with the 1s at RT from day 1.  
BigBlueNH : 7/23/2024 4:42 pm : link
Alot of new pieces on this line and they need as much work together as possible.
RE: My concern when Neal was drafted  
Angel Eyes : 7/23/2024 4:43 pm : link
In comment 16557766 JonC said:
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was he might be too big to succeed and stay healthy under NFL wear and tear. It's not unusual. Beckton gave me similar vibes.

I'll admit I had a similar concern about Neal.
Plan B is Eluemenor  
JonC : 7/23/2024 4:44 pm : link
There's no further rescue likely.
No surprise  
Mark from Jersey : 7/23/2024 4:58 pm : link
The writing was on the wall.
Would have been nice if they had drafted an OT  
RCPhoenix : 7/23/2024 4:59 pm : link
I get that they didn't have that many picks, but if last season should have taught this front office anything it's that they need competent depth at the swing tackle position.
RE: Gotta hope JE is running with the 1s at RT from day 1.  
RCPhoenix : 7/23/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16557779 BigBlueNH said:
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Alot of new pieces on this line and they need as much work together as possible.


At least he knows the OL coach well.
Timing may be a blessing  
UConn4523 : 7/23/2024 5:00 pm : link
better now than week 1 mid game. Next man up and give him all the reps.
RE: Plan B is Eluemenor  
bw in dc : 7/23/2024 5:02 pm : link
In comment 16557783 JonC said:
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There's no further rescue likely.


It's only Plan B because Neal was a lottery pick. Otherwise, based on his actual play, Eluemenor is just a better player right now.

While a lot of the 2022 draft is looking below average right now, Neal is looking like a real stain on Schoen's drafting.
He's done.  
FStubbs : 7/23/2024 5:11 pm : link
This training camp was vital. If he misses it, he can't go in as the starter.

He might live up to his potential elsewhere, but it's looking like it's not happening here.
No  
AcidTest : 7/23/2024 5:17 pm : link
surprise. He still might be the starting RT at some point this season, but most likely not on opening day.
By the time he gets back  
Rudy5757 : 7/23/2024 5:18 pm : link
He most likely will be a guard. Everyone can save face.

Seeing him for 2 years, he never played like a competent NFL tackle consistently. You can’t have that on the outside. I do think he can be an excellent guard so maybe we can salvage something.
The injury curse never seems to end  
BillT : 7/23/2024 5:18 pm : link
It’s beyond belief at this point. Its hit most every player on the line. And most every other position as well. It’s been way more than a decade of this. And it’s not like a few weeks. It’s whole seasons and whole careers. Really discouraging.
RE: Timing may be a blessing  
mfsd : 7/23/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16557796 UConn4523 said:
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better now than week 1 mid game. Next man up and give him all the reps.


I agree. Part of what killed the OL last year is they started replacing guys after week 1, whether due to injury or guys sucking
So Far It Looks Like The Front Office & Coaching Staff  
Trainmaster : 7/23/2024 5:30 pm : link
at least learned from their mistakes last year:

1) Reliance on rookies / unproven players
2) Poor / non-existent veteran depth

The third thing I hoped they learned from last year was spending way too much time with too many offensive line combinations.

The starting OL should be:

Thomas LT
JMS C
Eluemunor RT
Runyan G
Best from among Stinnie /Schlottmann or Van Roten (if signed) G

Keep your best projection of the starters together during first team practices and scrimmages.
What an absolutely fantastic draft pick Neal has turned out to be.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/23/2024 5:43 pm : link
LOL. Jesus, this guy gets injured getting out of bed in the morning. Absolutely terrible.
We saw this coming at end of mini camp  
UberAlias : 7/23/2024 5:46 pm : link
Time to move on
Ughh  
jc in c-ville : 7/23/2024 5:49 pm : link
Fuck sakes
RE: RE: My concern when Neal was drafted  
gersh : 7/23/2024 6:06 pm : link
In comment 16557781 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 16557766 JonC said:


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was he might be too big to succeed and stay healthy under NFL wear and tear. It's not unusual. Beckton gave me similar vibes.


I'll admit I had a similar concern about Neal.


I guess you’re right but, I like Becton, I think Neal carries his weight easily and actually looks smaller out of pads
….  
gersh : 7/23/2024 6:06 pm : link
Unlike Becton
this  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2024 6:34 pm : link
is why you can never take a player's word on injuries. Neal told Schmeelk a few weeks ago he would be fine for camp.
honestly this gives me hope  
SteelGiant : 7/23/2024 6:40 pm : link
This is not an injury bug. He broke his ankle last year and had surgery in January. It was early in the season.

Not Good news angle, Evan Neal sucks and now he missing important reps.

My new hopeful news, Evan Neal had bad coaching and played on broken ankle that bad enough that is still not fully healed. Maybe is not as bad as we think he is?

My new conspiracy angle,Evan Neal does suck at tackle and now the reps can go to their rightful owners to keep the job. Neal comes back to learn to play Guard.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2024 6:41 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
Robinson badly wrecked his knee two seasons ago - yes, this is one of the longest rehabs in memory - and has worked his butt off for even the slimest chance to make it back.
RE: Plan B is Eluemenor  
Spider56 : 7/23/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16557783 JonC said:
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There's no further rescue likely.


If as expected Plan B for RT is Eluemenor, they’re still going to need another G.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2024 6:51 pm : link
Starting to think it just isn't going to work out for Neal here, be it performance or injuries.
RE: honestly this gives me hope  
shyster : 7/23/2024 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16557856 SteelGiant said:
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My new hopeful news, Evan Neal had bad coaching and played on broken ankle that bad enough that is still not fully healed. Maybe is not as bad as we think he is?


Neal never played after he rolled his left ankle against the Raiders: the injury that turned out to be a fracture.

He left the game, was replaced by Tyre Phillips, and that was the end of his season.

His previous ankle injury, from which he did return, was to his right ankle.
RE: RE: Plan B is Eluemenor  
4xchamps : 7/23/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16557797 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16557783 JonC said:


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There's no further rescue likely.



It's only Plan B because Neal was a lottery pick. Otherwise, based on his actual play, Eluemenor is just a better player right now.

While a lot of the 2022 draft is looking below average right now, Neal is looking like a real stain on Schoen's drafting.


Lottery pick?
Honestly, not counting on Neal at all this year  
Rick in Dallas : 7/23/2024 6:57 pm : link
I thought he was a great pick at number 7.
Man I was 100% wrong…
RE: Plan B is Eluemenor  
Blue Baas : 7/23/2024 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16557783 JonC said:
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There's no further rescue likely.


Well sounds like Matt Nelson is healthy.
some house keeping  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2024 7:11 pm : link
players on both lists count against the 90-man roster limit.

They can come off both lists any time during camp.
at this point  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2024 7:14 pm : link
I'm not sure what they are doing with Aaron Robinson. As Dottino said above, his knee must be wrecked.
Hopefully it’s a short stint  
The_Boss : 7/23/2024 7:27 pm : link
He can come off at any time and start participating in practice immediately. Was hoping with a new OL staff, he’d benefit immensely if he was a full go from jump.
RE: at this point  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2024 7:28 pm : link
In comment 16557880 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm not sure what they are doing with Aaron Robinson. As Dottino said above, his knee must be wrecked.


I don't think he's suited up since that Bears home game in late September/early October '22. I remember watching that game @ a bar in NH.
Probably a blessing in disguise  
bigblue12 : 7/23/2024 7:49 pm : link
Should force them to put Elumenor at RT where he belongs and maybe Neal can slide in at guard if and when he’s ready
Hope  
Toth029 : 7/23/2024 7:56 pm : link
They skip the funny business and don't trot out Ezeudu over at RT. A swing guy? Go for it and see if Bricillo can improve him, but Eluemunor needs to be the RT day 1 in camp.

Would be good news if they signed Van Roten.
Not to be cynical, but why is Aaron Robinson still here?  
DavidinBMNY : 7/23/2024 7:59 pm : link
Missing an entire season, and then going on PUP another 6 months later, I mean he is done - right? Not his fault, but isn't it time to just free up the roster spot?
Also Re: Neal  
DavidinBMNY : 7/23/2024 8:03 pm : link
This is not unexpected, given his lack of action in the pre-season. What was surprising was that Elumanor solely played Guard. I rely like that they gave Ezudu a ton of snaps because last year was unfair to him. That said, do an injury settlement and release Robinson. Sign Van Rotten. Let's go...
RE: Not to be cynical, but why is Aaron Robinson still here?  
Mike from Ohio : 7/23/2024 8:15 pm : link
In comment 16557905 DavidinBMNY said:
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Missing an entire season, and then going on PUP another 6 months later, I mean he is done - right? Not his fault, but isn't it time to just free up the roster spot?


He’s probably a really nice guy and works his butt off. In the Giants organization that carries a ton of weight, offset by the minor fact that he isn’t helping the team at all.
RE: at this point  
AcidTest : 7/23/2024 8:16 pm : link
In comment 16557880 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm not sure what they are doing with Aaron Robinson. As Dottino said above, his knee must be wrecked.


It's very sad, but I think his playing career might be over.
RE: RE: Not to be cynical, but why is Aaron Robinson still here?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/23/2024 8:16 pm : link
In comment 16557915 Mike from Ohio said:
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In comment 16557905 DavidinBMNY said:


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Missing an entire season, and then going on PUP another 6 months later, I mean he is done - right? Not his fault, but isn't it time to just free up the roster spot?



He’s probably a really nice guy and works his butt off. In the Giants organization that carries a ton of weight, offset by the minor fact that he isn’t helping the team at all.


Lot of truth to this.
Neal was the absolute correct pick that has not worked out.  
ThomasG : 7/23/2024 8:19 pm : link
The Giants have picked a bunch of poor choices on day 1 and 2 for years. Neal was a good risk and hasn’t stepped up at all. Many of those others were awful risks.

It’s on Neal.
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