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Andrew Thomas says he’s been in touch with Evan Neal this offseason to make sure he’s in a good place. Knows what he’s dealing with and said he good mentally.
Connor Hughes
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Video of Jermaine Eluemunor going down. It looks like arm, maybe midsection. Either way: Not ideal #Giants https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1816130822216286289 - ( New Window )
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires.
Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks.
Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Eleumunor left practice today after he appeared to take an elbow to his ribs
yes, other report
He took a big shot to the ribs from Dexter Lawrence on the play, so that’s likely the site of the injury.
Bad for him short term but good news
or another experienced RG to kick Runyan to LG. Anything they get from Neal should be considered a bonus. he's 2 years running been outplayed by tyree phillips off the waiver wire.
if they loved Alt they should have considered him but Neal (and to lesser extents JMS/Ezeudu) show the risk of relying on rookies to "fix" things no matter how safe they seem.
part of the draft is projecting your own strengths/weaknesses as an org to develop talent. signing veteran OL was the right way to go. this org has not yet proven it can develop OL and that's a risk that needs to be accounted for in their decision making.
Remember how funny he looked trying to keep his balance against Riddick in the playoff game in Philly? Neal was more off balance in that game than a drunk at closing time at your local bar.
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative
lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative
lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.
Jones is THE reason why every national preseason primer pegs the NYG to be a bottom 5 team in 2024.
but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
RE: RE: People are going to spin this as no big deal
but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
The other thing is that Matt Nelso, the other OT they brought in, has also been out and I'm not clear on what his status is at this point. There's always concentrated injuries on the Oline, and always impactful.
We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.
Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.
We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.
Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.
I know exactly why they didn't consider Alt. Weapon for Daniel, and they'd already spent a high pick on Neal and don't want to admit he's a miss.
RE: These injuries are just so demoralizing … every freaking season
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
One lineup surprise for me on Day 1 of Giants camp: rookie DT Elijah Chatman getting a chance to work in first-team rotation with Dexter Lawrence, Ryder Anderson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches.
DL coach Andre Patterson has said height is not a prerequisite for him: Chatman listed at 6-foot, 278 pounds, UDFA from SMU
@GiantInsider
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Isaiah Simmons played with the 3s today in the slot. Worked with DB’s in individuals
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Kayvon Thibodeaux beats Ezeudu for a sack on his second rep at RT. #Giants
Like clockwork! Ezeudu stepping in right where he left off...
@GiantInsider
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Andrew Thomas says he’s been in touch with Evan Neal this offseason to make sure he’s in a good place. Knows what he’s dealing with and said he good mentally.
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
At least Lock isn’t afraid to throw downfield. I think I could live with one interception per game, maybe more.
What rust... you have three new players on the OL.. its not going to be cohesive day one.. its going to take time
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Video of Jermaine Eluemunor going down. It looks like arm, maybe midsection. Either way: Not ideal #Giants https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1816130822216286289 - ( New Window )
30-year old ribs.
https://x.com/Giants/status/1816148049476845793 - ( New Window )
Hopefully it's nothing and only day to day.
@JordanRaanan
Interesting note from Day 1 of Giants training camp: Isaiah Simmons was working with the cornerbacks. The plan is to use him as a nickelback. He is fully on board with the idea. It aligns with his desires.
Simmons noted he had his most productive year in Arizona in a similar role under Vance Joseph. He had 99 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions and 4.0 sacks.
Simmons thinks this will be a similar role in Shane Bowen's defense with the Giants.
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@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Eleumunor left practice today after he appeared to take an elbow to his ribs
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Eleumunor left practice today after he appeared to take an elbow to his ribs
yes, other report
He took a big shot to the ribs from Dexter Lawrence on the play, so that’s likely the site of the injury.
Bad for him short term but good news
Hopefully it's nothing and only day to day.
To me it just looks like he took an unlucky shot to the ribs from Sexy. That's enough to crack a rib. Cracked rib is 2-4 weeks.
Ha! You had me at "Ezeudu is going to play well..."!
if they loved Alt they should have considered him but Neal (and to lesser extents JMS/Ezeudu) show the risk of relying on rookies to "fix" things no matter how safe they seem.
part of the draft is projecting your own strengths/weaknesses as an org to develop talent. signing veteran OL was the right way to go. this org has not yet proven it can develop OL and that's a risk that needs to be accounted for in their decision making.
+1
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Insane we’re doing year 6 of this
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
You guys have called them “dopey narratives” for five years.
“It’s only camp”
“It’s only preseason”
“It’s only week one”
“Player x,y,z were hurt”
“The eagles are just better it’s not Jones’ fault”
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
You guys have called them “dopey narratives” for five years.
“It’s only camp”
“It’s only preseason”
“It’s only week one”
“Player x,y,z were hurt”
“The eagles are just better it’s not Jones’ fault”
And right on cue, said dopey fan responds.
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative
lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Jones being a mediocre QB is a "dopey narrative"? Please enlighten me with the proper narrative
lol. At this point I would love for the guy to kill it this year just so you dopes can slink away again. Or at least STFU about him for 5 consecutive posts/threads.
Jones is THE reason why every national preseason primer pegs the NYG to be a bottom 5 team in 2024.
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
If you don’t like it maybe discussing football on a message board isn’t for you, dope.
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
Thread wouldn't have been complete without Johnny5 coming in to bitch about other fans
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Connor Hughes
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#Giants practice is over. Daniel Jones finished 7 of 12. Final four completions all within three yards of LOS.
Big concern, obviously, is health of Jermaine Eluemunor
Jones rounding into regular season check-down form
Right, all that time he had in the pocket and all those gifted WRs just going to waste.
Smart QBs check it down when there’s nothing else to do.
And mediocre QBs check down when they don't have the confidence or ability to throw into tight windows
And dopey fans harp on every play during the 1st day of camp to further their dopey narratives.
You're so right. Silly is'nt it?
John's looking very thin... I really like him and think he's one of the best media people the Giants have (if not the best). Stay healthy Schmeelk
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
Yup. Until Eluemunor is back they'll have gone exactly 0 days with their starting OL on the field. Yawn.
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but this is f#cking brutal to lose Eluemunor for any stretch of time already.
Reminds me of Pugh, Richburg and Flowers beating their chest about having to stay on the field and by day 3 all of them were sitting out.
Part of the reason this OL has been so bad for so long is they seem to have a new starting 5 every week. And now, after less than a practice, they'll have to reshuffle the starting 5 again.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
These injuries are just so demoralizing. And it happens every freaking season to this team.
IOW, at least he isn't throwing to a bunch of scrubs behind a dysfunctional OL. He has a good play caller and weapons.
If Nelson was the swing guy and still not 100% ready, we're already down to our 4th RT. On day 1.
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I found the post -- I'm not sure it is a reliable source
Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.
Hey, if Dabs chooses Jones to be his man, and we crash and burn, then maybe Dabs should go with Jones…….somewhere out of town.
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We saw on Hard Knocks that drafting Joe Alt was not a consideration, presumably because we had Evan Neal. Now Duggan is saying Neal probably lost his job.
Sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees. Alt was not a consideration because they wanted either Maye or one of the WRs.
They got Eleumunor in FA as back up to Neal. But it was clear as a bell that they wanted to go QB(one of the top 3) or Nabers or Harrison - and even Bowers.
I know exactly why they didn't consider Alt. Weapon for Daniel, and they'd already spent a high pick on Neal and don't want to admit he's a miss.
This!
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@art_stapleton
Before Eluemunor left due to injury, here was the Giants' OL alignment:
1st team
LT Thomas
LG Stinnie
C Schmitz
RG Runyan
RT Eluemunor
2nd team
LT Ezeudu
LG Kubas
C Schlottmann
RG Morrissey
RT Miles
3rd team
LT Nelson
LG Morrissey
C Schlottmann
RG McKethan
RT Cajuste
@art_stapleton
One lineup surprise for me on Day 1 of Giants camp: rookie DT Elijah Chatman getting a chance to work in first-team rotation with Dexter Lawrence, Ryder Anderson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches.
DL coach Andre Patterson has said height is not a prerequisite for him: Chatman listed at 6-foot, 278 pounds, UDFA from SMU