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Daboll's Lying Down On Couch

Essex : 7/24/2024 9:51 am
while interviewing Nabors. Did anyone else have an issue with this. I know some will dismiss as completely irrelevant, but I thought that was a bad look that I found somewhat unprofessional. If you are a leader and you want your team to be professional when they are in the meeting, by sitting up and paying attention, you might not want to look like you are not lounging in a frat house or on a beach in the Caribbean. The only thing I can think of was that it was intentional to make Nabors more comfortable like he was just shooting the crap with his friends to open up as opposed to being in a formal interview where he might be more on guard. But, still, it was noticeable to me what Daboll did and that I would never do that in a meeting.
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I was raised  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2024 10:00 am : link
differently... but I'm old.

I wouldn't do that in someone else's office either. It would be like me coming over to your house and putting my shoes up on your coffee table.
Certainly was intentionally .....as that was not how he sat before  
George from PA : 7/24/2024 10:02 am : link
Was it some kind of power message?

Clearly showing whose boss.
I read it  
AcesUp : 7/24/2024 10:03 am : link
As a good cop act to try and get Nabers to open up about something they could ding him for. I noticed it, you did and I'm sure others have and even Nabers may have. So he was pretty transparently trying to level for whatever his reasons were.
It's deliberate  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 10:03 am : link
The point is to get to know them. You want honesty from the player. It's intended to disarm. Give off a vibe of casual chat, not interview.
Doesn't bother me  
SirLoinOfBeef : 7/24/2024 10:07 am : link
.

Neither do the F bombs from him or Schoen.

It's just sports entertainment to me.
I just saw a video on Twitter  
JoeyBigBlue : 7/24/2024 10:16 am : link
Daboll had his feet up with Rome Odunze, but didn’t with Nabers. Disrespectful if you ask me personally.


Talkin’ Giants Tweet - ( New Window )
Daboll with Odunze  
JoeyBigBlue : 7/24/2024 10:17 am : link
Picture
Daboll - ( New Window )
These aren't 9-5 interviews  
Blueworm : 7/24/2024 10:24 am : link
You need to find out how people handle curveballs, and how they can think on their feet.

I like when  
Lines of Scrimmage : 7/24/2024 10:25 am : link
HC puts his feet on his desk after accomplishing the mission.
I'm not sure people understand this process  
UberAlias : 7/24/2024 10:27 am : link
Teams do crazy shit in these interviews. These are not conducted like your standard interview for professional service job. They are guys who will spent their time in sweaty a locker room and battling it out on a football field, not wearing a tie in an office. Go read up some of the shit that has happened here. Feet up is nothing. Teams are preparing to invest millions in these kids and have employed many and far more questionable tactics over the years to get through all the agent coaching these guys go through. Acting casual is nothing and completely tame for this sort of thing.
At First I Found It Odd  
Bernie : 7/24/2024 10:28 am : link
But realistically, the overall atmosphere is less formal than you would see in your standard corporate environment.
Wasn't impressed  
give66 : 7/24/2024 10:28 am : link
with him dropping f bombs when he was talking about his conversation with Saban. Grow up this a multibillion-dollar business.
I didn't mind when he was in sweats...  
bw in dc : 7/24/2024 10:29 am : link
interviewing Daniels.

But didn't he do it in a suit when Schoen was running the draft scenarios by Tisch and Mara? That wasn't the best look.

Good discussion….  
Racer : 7/24/2024 10:30 am : link
….for psych class, but I’m more concerned with BDs ability to get 24-30pts a game.

Working class hero act? I’m not intimidated act? Everyone we meet is engaging in battles between the ears we know nothing about.
Alpha #1 WR’s share the same traits coming out of college.  
jc in c-ville : 7/24/2024 10:32 am : link
If it were up to them, they would want the ball on every down. Every NFL coach knows this, especially Couch D - who is offensive minded. That’s what makes them # 1 WR’s , at least mentally. For the top 3 that got drafted, each would have to say something pretty criminal to have them drop too far. Talent wins out over personality
RE: I like when  
iMatt : 7/24/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16558466 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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HC puts his feet on his desk after accomplishing the mission.


RE: Wasn't impressed  
RCPhoenix : 7/24/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16558476 give66 said:
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with him dropping f bombs when he was talking about his conversation with Saban. Grow up this a multibillion-dollar business.


It's part of the culture of the NFL. Finance is no different.

As to the original post, I wasn't thrilled with how he was lounging on the couch. Seemed disrespectful to me. But for all I know that's also part of the NFL culture. Though I cannot imagine Daboll doing that with Tisch or Mara in the room.
he doesn't look  
Enzo : 7/24/2024 10:47 am : link
like a serious person.
So nobody is bothered by the stories about  
blueblood : 7/24/2024 10:48 am : link
Belichick taking his shirt off in an interview to throw people off..

and we tripping about feet on a desk.

I took it as trying to see how someone would react to it..
I had the same thoughts  
PHX Giants Fan : 7/24/2024 10:48 am : link
It was a bad look.
Didn't bother me in the least.  
Boatie Warrant : 7/24/2024 10:56 am : link
Coffee tables are made to put your feet on. At least, thats how I use them :)
RE: I was raised  
k2tampa : 7/24/2024 11:05 am : link
In comment 16558415 Eric from BBI said:
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differently... but I'm old.

I wouldn't do that in someone else's office either. It would be like me coming over to your house and putting my shoes up on your coffee table.


Yeah, and if I were the interviewee I'd have on a suit and tie for a job interview. One, it's a different era, and two. It's football.
Not that I am making excuses but, as I am older now,  
robbieballs2003 : 7/24/2024 11:08 am : link
my body doesn't move the way it used to. It is very uncomfortable to sit at a 90° angle and talk to someone. How do they not have a conference room they can go to? Probably because they wanted this on camera and only had cameras and mics up in certain rooms.
RE: I just saw a video on Twitter  
JoeyBigBlue : 7/24/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16558441 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Daboll had his feet up with Rome Odunze, but didn’t with Nabers. Disrespectful if you ask me personally.
Talkin’ Giants Tweet - ( New Window )



He did do it with Nabers too, my bad on the wrong info. Not appropriate either way.
an interview technique  
TheBlueprintNC : 7/24/2024 11:17 am : link
it helps creating the illusion of casualness -puts people off guard.. or thats his style. get comfortable and lets chat.
this thread is funny  
Heisenberg : 7/24/2024 11:19 am : link
so many conclusions being drawn
These are blue collar guys who happen to make million dollar salaries  
Ivan15 : 7/24/2024 11:21 am : link
In a high pressure business and need a chance to relax. Besides that, Daboll trying to do a power trip with a player who is 4 inches taller and will be making at least as much money as he does will not go over well.

This is more like a team of construction guys in a meeting and the boss gets to lie down or put his feet up.

Besides that, wasn’t this at least the second time they met with Nabers? Maybe Daboll wanted to show a different side and see how Nabers would react.
RE: It's deliberate  
Brown_Hornet : 7/24/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16558422 UberAlias said:
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The point is to get to know them. You want honesty from the player. It's intended to disarm. Give off a vibe of casual chat, not interview.
Yep
RE: I like when  
FranknWeezer : 7/24/2024 11:58 am : link
In comment 16558466 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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HC puts his feet on his desk after accomplishing the mission.


Yes!
I think Daboll on Hard Knocks  
David B. : 7/24/2024 11:59 am : link
Has thus far, come off as kind of an uncouth slob. I don't think he actually IS one, but no one, including Schoen or Mara seems concerned about the NYG HC presenting anything like a professional appearance or demeanor. Even with the cameras on.

So yeah, I don't think sprawled out on the GM's couch was a good look for Daboll. But as other have said, I, too, am old, and out of touch. I don't expect Hank Stram, Tom Landry attire and demeanor. That's not today's head coach. I also don't mind f-bombs and coarse language in general, but when you're the HC of the Giants, I don't think you should be presenting yourself to non-Giants (like college prospects or FAs) in such a cavalier manner -- stretched out on a couch, looking like a slob (I'm not talking about his clothes). None of that stuff is professional. Of course, neither is cursing out your assistants (to the point of complaints) on the headphones during games.

Most of us wouldn't get away with that shit at our jobs. However, Schoen and Mara seem totally unconcerned, so what do I know?



By all accounts  
k2tampa : 7/24/2024 12:13 pm : link
Daboll's player pretty much all love him - and the way he acts around them and treats them is the biggest reason why. I have no problem with this.
.  
Tony in Tampa : 7/24/2024 12:29 pm : link
I think it is obvious that Daboll employs some deliberate  
regulator : 7/24/2024 12:29 pm : link
psychological techniques in interviewing his witnesses, and he comes across to me as very prepared, even though his outward appearance may be somewhat casual or disarming.
I think Daboll now's what he's doing. If one of these guys  
Blue21 : 7/24/2024 12:35 pm : link
he's interviews puts his feet up because he does that's says something. I m not really concerned. Just a test a think.
RE: Wasn't impressed  
Johnny5 : 7/24/2024 12:49 pm : link
In comment 16558476 give66 said:
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with him dropping f bombs when he was talking about his conversation with Saban. Grow up this a multibillion-dollar business.

lolwut

Well, you clearly don't work in the same Corporate America that I do then.
 
christian : 7/24/2024 1:30 pm : link
Imagine if he was doing that and was still tubby? The horror.
I like Daboll a lot and hope he succeeds here long term  
Stu11 : 7/24/2024 1:40 pm : link
but he's really coming off as the class clown on the show and they all get a kick out of it. That's great, but he hangs another 5 or 6 win season up there and that act can get old fast.
This place never ceases  
AROCK1000 : 7/24/2024 1:49 pm : link
to amaze me
There's a reason  
HomerJones45 : 7/24/2024 1:54 pm : link
the guy kicked around the NFL for 23 years before getting a HC opportunity with of course, the guys who have struggled to come up with a viable HC.

If he wins, no one care; if he continues to lose (8-16-1 after the 7-2 start in 2022), these sorts of quirks will be part of the indictment.
Good lord  
Big Rick in FL : 7/24/2024 1:59 pm : link
The things the people on this message board cry/whine/complain about is comical. Who gives a fuck how he sits? It's meaningless. He's a fat guy. It's probably more comfortable for him to sit like that.
RE: There's a reason  
Mbavaro : 7/24/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16558733 HomerJones45 said:
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the guy kicked around the NFL for 23 years before getting a HC opportunity with of course, the guys who have struggled to come up with a viable HC.

If he wins, no one care; if he continues to lose (8-16-1 after the 7-2 start in 2022), these sorts of quirks will be part of the indictment.


And what would that reason be that he kicked around the NFL for 23 years?

RE: Good lord  
Mbavaro : 7/24/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16558739 Big Rick in FL said:
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The things the people on this message board cry/whine/complain about is comical. Who gives a fuck how he sits? It's meaningless. He's a fat guy. It's probably more comfortable for him to sit like that.



Exactly….if all the things to actually give a shit about….this isn’t one of them
RE: this thread is funny  
jhibb : 7/24/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16558581 Heisenberg said:
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so many conclusions being drawn


Yup. Same as 90% of threads on here lol.

I personally find it funny when I start reading a thread like this while not having seen what's being talked about and I get a picture in my mind, and then I see a clip of it and it's actually totally different.

"Lying down on couch"??? Anyone who thinks that's lying down on a couch has never lain down on a couch before.
RE: There's a reason  
Big Rick in FL : 7/24/2024 2:05 pm : link
In comment 16558733 HomerJones45 said:
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the guy kicked around the NFL for 23 years before getting a HC opportunity with of course, the guys who have struggled to come up with a viable HC.

If he wins, no one care; if he continues to lose (8-16-1 after the 7-2 start in 2022), these sorts of quirks will be part of the indictment.


I think that's just normal for a coach in the NFL. Most coaches coach for a long time before they get a HC job.

Bill Belichick got "kicked" around the NFL for 16 years before an NFL HC job.

Andy Reid got "kicked" around college football & the NFL for 18 years before an NFL HC job.

Tom Coughlin got "kicked" around college football and the NFL for 27 years before an NFL HC job.
RE: RE: Good lord  
Big Rick in FL : 7/24/2024 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16558741 Mbavaro said:
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In comment 16558739 Big Rick in FL said:


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The things the people on this message board cry/whine/complain about is comical. Who gives a fuck how he sits? It's meaningless. He's a fat guy. It's probably more comfortable for him to sit like that.




Exactly….if all the things to actually give a shit about….this isn’t one of them


The things people worry about. I'm trying to figure out if these weirdos live a great life and you have nothing else to worry about so you worry about how the New York Giants HC sat on his couch while interviewing a potential draft pick or do they live a terrible life worrying about things that don't really matter.
RE: I think Daboll on Hard Knocks  
mittenedman : 7/24/2024 2:17 pm : link
In comment 16558630 David B. said:
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Has thus far, come off as kind of an uncouth slob. I don't think he actually IS one, but no one, including Schoen or Mara seems concerned about the NYG HC presenting anything like a professional appearance or demeanor. Even with the cameras on.

So yeah, I don't think sprawled out on the GM's couch was a good look for Daboll. But as other have said, I, too, am old, and out of touch. I don't expect Hank Stram, Tom Landry attire and demeanor. That's not today's head coach. I also don't mind f-bombs and coarse language in general, but when you're the HC of the Giants, I don't think you should be presenting yourself to non-Giants (like college prospects or FAs) in such a cavalier manner -- stretched out on a couch, looking like a slob (I'm not talking about his clothes). None of that stuff is professional. Of course, neither is cursing out your assistants (to the point of complaints) on the headphones during games.

Most of us wouldn't get away with that shit at our jobs. However, Schoen and Mara seem totally unconcerned, so what do I know?




Agreed, and I think the Schoen backwards hat stuff is a bit lame too. These guys all seem a little too comfortable right now. For a franchise that hasn't put a professional quality product on the field for much of the last 10 years, it's not a good look. Some immmaturity there to say the least.
I admire  
bigbluehoya : 7/24/2024 2:44 pm : link
the energy that some of you have to care about this shit.

I'm puzzled by it at times, but I respect it.
I've been wondering  
Torn Tendon : 7/24/2024 2:55 pm : link
how Daboll lost all that weight so fast! Loks like he's shed 40 lbs or so since the draft.
RE: I've been wondering  
bigbluehoya : 7/24/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16558787 Torn Tendon said:
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how Daboll lost all that weight so fast! Loks like he's shed 40 lbs or so since the draft.


His son plays in the same youth hockey org as my son does (his son is younger). I have seen Dabes around the rink a bit this summer. He looks very trim.
God help us  
4xchamps : 7/24/2024 3:03 pm : link
I can't wait for the season to start so we can have meaningful discussions... you know like "Is Daniel Jones any good" or "I hope Evan Neal is better this season." LOL
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