while interviewing Nabors. Did anyone else have an issue with this. I know some will dismiss as completely irrelevant, but I thought that was a bad look that I found somewhat unprofessional. If you are a leader and you want your team to be professional when they are in the meeting, by sitting up and paying attention, you might not want to look like you are not lounging in a frat house or on a beach in the Caribbean. The only thing I can think of was that it was intentional to make Nabors more comfortable like he was just shooting the crap with his friends to open up as opposed to being in a formal interview where he might be more on guard. But, still, it was noticeable to me what Daboll did and that I would never do that in a meeting.
I wouldn't do that in someone else's office either. It would be like me coming over to your house and putting my shoes up on your coffee table.
People still have coffee tables?
The F Bombs to me are a bit different and more "unsettling."
I was a sailor my entire life and passing the fuckin salt is acceptable to me. So using the F bomb doesn't usually raise an eyebrow - but it is weird to hear it used by the GM and VP.
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I think the Schoen backwards hat stuff is a bit lame too.
I laughed so hard at this that people had to come in my office and see what the fuss was about. Thanks, I needed that!
Also, during peek times in the year… especially during the combine/draft… these guys are in the building sometimes 18-20hrs. So we’re only seeing certain parts of the day. I highly doubt it’s like that all the time.
Also, during peek times in the year… especially during the combine/draft… these guys are in the building sometimes 18-20hrs. So we’re only seeing certain parts of the day. I highly doubt it’s like that all the time.
There's only one way to look a it: Who the hell cares?
You're a weird one. Why are you here?
As an example of the trend of less formality, you sometimes see important world leaders without ties.
I think this is just the way things are trending. If you look at people outside in the early 1900s, everyone was wearing formal hats and gloves, both of which are basically gone now.
It's spelled "neighbors," get a dictionary!
I wouldn't do that in someone else's office either. It would be like me coming over to your house and putting my shoes up on your coffee table.
Same. If Nabers can’t hold a conversation because the coach is siting upright, then why interview him at all? To me it came across poorly, but maybe this is how things are in professional sports?
I'm puzzled by it at times, but I respect it.
Do you think this is an instance of people making an observation and expressing an opinion, or do you believe many posters are spending time and energy obsessing about this, and every comment shows a devotion of significant amounts of mental effort?
Serious question.
So why do you think so many are spending such time and energy on defending Daboll? Why are they obsessed with denigrating and fighting every word?
So what I take away from this view is “everyone with an opinion is an unhinged lunatic with lots of free time?”
And that was without any "behind the scenes" stuff.
And that was without any "behind the scenes" stuff.
Exactly my point.
This team has some problems and laying on the couch while likely putting in 16 hour days is not one of them.
There is nobody on earth (player, coach or GM) who is good enough for this fan base.
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HC puts his feet on his desk after accomplishing the mission.
Favorite picture of TC .... or any Giant. It used to be my desktop wallpaper for years.
I like Brian Daboll. I'm rooting for him. I think if I was a player I'd want to play for him. The last thing I want is for the Giants to changes the head coach again.
I think from what they've shown us on NYG HK lying down on the couch in that posture conducting a job interview is in character for "head coach" Daboll. It's obvious to me watching NYG HK or any previous year of Hard Knocks that the NFL has its own work and social culture.
The players that are being drafted this high have been part of it since middle school or high school at the latest. They've been pampered in every way and "recruited" since their early teens. Now they're on "job" interviews for the big money very few get. It looks like to me that there is a very different relationship coach/player vs GM/player. The coach from Rex Ryan to Mike McDaniel or Brian Daboll are a part of the player culture. The GM is not.
Most of what I've seen on NYG Hard Knocks has fallen under be careful what you wish for you just might get it for me. I find this "off season" version of Hard Knocks to be particularly jarring and revealing. The cameras have peeled back more of the socioeconomic owner/front office/coach/player dynamic than I want to think about while yell at the TV on Thursdays/Sundays or Mondays.
I understand that everyone in the Giants building knows the cameras are on at all times and behaving accordingly (if not performing for the cameras) but this behind the scenes look at how the Giants ownership and front office do business has confirmed to me that they're a dysfunctional organization that is setup for failure.
IMO and experience no company, in any business, that has open market competition (which NFL teams do not) would survive structured like the NY Football Giants. Individual NFL teams don't need to provide a great product for great profits. The bad teams get just as rich. It's the only US business I know of including the other sports leagues where results don't impact profits. No wonder the Mara mantra is meaningful games in December is a successful season. Their only business risk is the embarrassment of the performance of their team.
If anyone thinks differently, I really do not understand how?
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The things the people on this message board cry/whine/complain about is comical. Who gives a fuck how he sits? It's meaningless. He's a fat guy. It's probably more comfortable for him to sit like that.
It's absolutely NOT meaningless, everyone out there knows posture, bearing appearance affect everything in both business and personal relationships, and people are called slobs for a reason. go into an interview and act like that, dress like shit, see what happens. Ridiculous statement on your part, you talk as if you've grown up in a cave and were raised by savages .Manner and appearance are unimportant. OK. Do you. it's not how the real world works.
You clowns really need to stop comparing the NFL to your shitty ass 9-5 jobs. It’s a completely different world. It’s precious that you were trained at the insurance company to sit up straight and wear a nice collared shirt. That means less than nothing to a head coach in the NFL.
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The things the people on this message board cry/whine/complain about is comical. Who gives a fuck how he sits? It's meaningless. He's a fat guy. It's probably more comfortable for him to sit like that.
It's absolutely NOT meaningless, everyone out there knows posture, bearing appearance affect everything in both business and personal relationships, and people are called slobs for a reason. go into an interview and act like that, dress like shit, see what happens. Ridiculous statement on your part, you talk as if you've grown up in a cave and were raised by savages .Manner and appearance are unimportant. OK. Do you. it's not how the real world works.
What do you do for a living? I'd like to hear more about your experience with how "the real world works."