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Bobby Skinner report practice #2

Hilary : 7/26/2024 8:17 am
nice discussion if you have the time

Bobby notes some Giant worries

Back up offensive line is horrible. In the NFL depth is important, back -ups play.

Jet sweeps and throws behind the line were not working. Those plays do not work when the defense has penetration into the backfield.

Deonte Banks has good coverage but can't make a play on the ball to stop completion. Flott was not able to cover the receivers.

No surprise that CB and O line are the areas needing improvement
practice #2 - ( New Window )
Its always silly to me  
blueblood : 7/26/2024 8:20 am : link
when people give out Oline reports when there are no pads on. The Oline isnt hitting the DL.
And in One on One drills that a lot of the Giants were running  
blueblood : 7/26/2024 8:21 am : link
The Offense almost always has the advantage.

No team, not one,  
section125 : 7/26/2024 8:30 am : link
has a good, intact backup offensive line. On that line are two or three people that may be active on game day, as backups at a single position.

Let's let it play out, but there is a dearth of talent in the entire NFL at oline. Let's hope they can get 9 guys that can actually play at near NFL average.
Both  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/26/2024 8:33 am : link
our top two RTs are out.

RE: Its always silly to me  
jestersdead : 7/26/2024 8:39 am : link
In comment 16560053 blueblood said:
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when people give out Oline reports when there are no pads on. The Oline isnt hitting the DL.

Can the same be said about QBs throwing TDs with no pressure?
That’s really disappointing about Flott  
cosmicj : 7/26/2024 8:55 am : link
Comments from the front office about needing a new CB in the offseason and this nugget make me think the org doesn’t like what it’s seeing from Flott.
RE: That’s really disappointing about Flott  
robbieballs2003 : 7/26/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16560069 cosmicj said:
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Comments from the front office about needing a new CB in the offseason and this nugget make me think the org doesn’t like what it’s seeing from Flott.


When you primarily play zone, you need your corners to support the run. Right off the bat, he's at a disadvantage. He needs to be that much better in coverage if he wants to stick.
RE: No team, not one,  
ajr2456 : 7/26/2024 9:11 am : link
In comment 16560058 section125 said:
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has a good, intact backup offensive line. On that line are two or three people that may be active on game day, as backups at a single position.

Let's let it play out, but there is a dearth of talent in the entire NFL at oline. Let's hope they can get 9 guys that can actually play at near NFL average.


This. I’d wager a third of the league doesn’t even have 5 starting level Olineman
Backup  
Toth029 : 7/26/2024 9:12 am : link
OL essentially has third string OT play with others out.

Plus there's a bunch of new guys, and I believe Kubas has the leg up on the LG position. I like that.
 
christian : 7/26/2024 9:13 am : link
It's a matter of degree of dysfunction with the offensive line.

For the last dozen or so years, the early reports have been bad. And the reassurance is it's early, no one has depth, this guy is out. And every year the Giants have been appreciably worse than most teams.

At some point the observers are smart enough to compare today to what they've seen in the past, and make the connection to the level of suck early and how that translated to later.

The Schoen Giants have put together back-to-back shitty lines in 2022 and 2023. This is the area where I think it's quite justified for the media to skeptical.
Saw a clip of Flott getting cooked  
Blue Baas : 7/26/2024 9:19 am : link
by Allen Robinson.

Not great, Bob.
RE: Saw a clip of Flott getting cooked  
Blue Baas : 7/26/2024 9:21 am : link
In comment 16560078 Blue Baas said:
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by Allen Robinson.

Not great, Bob.


My bad, that was David Long.
More than any other unit, the OL requires  
Section331 : 7/26/2024 9:21 am : link
coordination between its members. These guys have played together for 3 practices, relax. If there still struggling come the Jets game, than we can worry.
If they can't be functional in PB  
Lines of Scrimmage : 7/26/2024 9:29 am : link
then you have to start adding RB/TE's and going to more max protection schemes taking targets of the field. SF '23 game.
I see issues with run blocking so pass sets are critical.

One poster mentioned that Bricillo didn't like the spacing with the OL under Johnson. I wonder if that is scheme related to the Giants designed shotgun pass/run option they rely on.
I understand  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/26/2024 9:30 am : link
the angst, but if Azeez Ojulari is not beating 3rd and 4th string OTs, then we should be more worried about Azeez.
RE: I understand  
christian : 7/26/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16560088 Eric from BBI said:
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the angst, but if Azeez Ojulari is not beating 3rd and 4th string OTs, then we should be more worried about Azeez.

Ojulari for both health and fit reasons has been such a disappointment. He's got a prime opportunity this year to make a good paycheck as a rotational pass rusher.
Identifying Assignment  
Rafflee : 7/26/2024 6:57 pm : link
thats the biggest flaw on every Bad OLine…. If they regularly make it to assiments their performance will be highly survivable, and it might be good
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