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Tommy “Cutlets” DeVito, Part 2

5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 3:59 pm
This is a brief follow up on the previous discussion we had discussing whether TD can beat out DJ. Some here, like myself think he could if it were a fair competition….most thought he can’t because Jones makes 40 million and TD makes about 1 million, and to start Cutlets would make Schoen look bad for resigning Jones for all that money.

Here is my update:
I’ve noticed Jones has been up and down in these 3 days of practice. Of course, we have to cut him some slack seeing that he is about 9 months removed from a serious knee Injury….but his inaccuracy today, throwing longer than a short pass or dump off seems to have many up in arms and you really can’t blame his injury for these errant throws. Not all his throws are errant, so he can and has thrown some very accurate passes……just not as much as we would like. Today he was 1 for 6 in balls over 20 yards.

Unfortunately, I’ve not read much on TD’s three days. The only thing I have read is when he throws a TD pass, like today he threw one to Turbo, and I believe yesterday, he through one to I believe the new kid, Dennis Houston. But I have not found any final numbers for TD like we are hearing for DJ and no one is drawing any conclusions on how TD is looking. I know TD is probably playing with the 3rd team, so it’s not easy making judgments here, but is there anyone here who can give testimony as to how Cutlets is doing so far in these first three days? Again I will say this- I DON’T BELIEVE HIS ACCURACY WITH PASSES OVER 20 YARDS- would be an issue with him, like it is and probably will continue to be with Jones. I would absolutely love to see Cutlets playing with the #1s so that we can juxtapose the numbers of the two QBs on an equal footing.

Any thoughts you would like to tack on?
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DeVito  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 7/26/2024 4:08 pm : link
Is not an NFL QB.
I think we have to give Jones more than  
Section331 : 7/26/2024 4:12 pm : link
a couple of practices, as you said, he hasn't played in 9 months. There was bound to be some rust. With TD, I have to think he'll be given a fair opportunity in preseason games. He just has to be ready if his number is called.

Oddly enough, I think he and Lock are similar. Arm's good enough, but they hold the ball too long. At least TD has an excuse, it's only his 2nd camp.
RE: DeVito  
barens : 7/26/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16560518 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Is not an NFL QB.


He has an NFL arm, otherwise, he wouldn't be here. Like most young QB's, game is probably too fast, but way too early to say he's not an NFL QB.
you lost me at the implication  
djm : 7/26/2024 4:20 pm : link
that it's not a fair competition.
my thoughts  
djm : 7/26/2024 4:23 pm : link
If Devito is a good QB he will play and play a lot. It's only a matter of time before walk on type talents play in the NFL. Even if there is some like politics involved with certain competitions, these coaches and GMs are under so much pressure to win they don't give a fuck how much anyone makes. They play the best players.

If Devito is the goods, he will play. IF he isn't he will be BBI's favorite enigma and remain on the bench.
Can you name at least a few....  
MOOPS : 7/26/2024 4:39 pm : link
of the many that are "up in arms"?
RE: Can you name at least a few....  
5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16560574 MOOPS said:
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of the many that are "up in arms"?


Just read the Camp Day 3 thread….they are all there…heck, even your boys Bobby Skinner and Justin P are joining in the lynching.
RE: DeVito  
5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16560518 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Is not an NFL QB.


Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?
RE: you lost me at the implication  
5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16560549 djm said:
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that it's not a fair competition.


Do you not think Schoen’s “reputation” is somewhat at issue here? I mean, when you give a guy a 3 year 40m a year contract, you better hope he doesn’t disappoint…..I’m not implying his job security is at issue because I think he could survive this, but GMs are fired for less.
RE: RE: DeVito  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 7/26/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16560587 5BowlsSoon said:
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Is not an NFL QB.



Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?


Daniel Jones is not my boy. We are in QB hell. So much so that you are on a team message board pontificating if Tommy Devito should be the starting QB of the team.

The September 2025 QB of the team isn't on the roster right now.
RE: DeVito  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/26/2024 5:09 pm : link
In comment 16560518 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Is not an NFL QB.
This is anti-Itatian discrimination
RE: RE: DeVito  
5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 5:18 pm : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination


Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.
RE: RE: RE: DeVito  
JohnF : 7/26/2024 5:30 pm : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination



Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.


Nah, Italians get two days. Columbus Day, and National Pizza Day (Feb 9th!!)
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MOOPS : 7/26/2024 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16560584 5BowlsSoon said:
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of the many that are "up in arms"?



Just read the Camp Day 3 thread….they are all there…heck, even your boys Bobby Skinner and Justin P are joining in the lynching.



Firstly, I don't have boys.
Secondly, lynching is a little bit of a stretch, no?
Thirdly, get a fukking grip. It's day 3.
RE: ... get a ... grip. It's day 3.  
Trainmaster : 7/26/2024 5:48 pm : link
^^^

This
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markky : 7/26/2024 5:55 pm : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination



Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.



Nah, Italians get two days. Columbus Day, and National Pizza Day (Feb 9th!!)


Italians would also get Scampi day and Parm day if it were up to me. And Pizza day should be a whole month.
No wonder Giants fans are always getting ripped.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/26/2024 5:57 pm : link
Holy shit. Let's breakdown Eli's camp numbers. And the injury doesn't affect his throws? Nobody thought he'd be doing 11 on 11 already. Nobody. Not even the Giants. This is fuckin absurd. Hate DJ for what he has been in his career. Fine. But camp after a major injury? Unreal.
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santacruzom : 7/26/2024 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16560654 MOOPS said:
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of the many that are "up in arms"?



Just read the Camp Day 3 thread….they are all there…heck, even your boys Bobby Skinner and Justin P are joining in the lynching.




Firstly, I don't have boys.
Secondly, lynching is a little bit of a stretch, no?
Thirdly, get a fukking grip. It's day 3.


But also year six.
Italians would also get Scampi day and Parm day if it were up to me. A  
floridafan : 7/26/2024 6:15 pm : link
Should be 3 parm days veal, chicken and eggplant.
I would throw in a mozzarella day too.
DeVito was a nice story  
Gman11 : 7/26/2024 6:40 pm : link
in a dreary season, but there are usually good reasons why a guy goes undrafted. Sure, there are QBs that fall through the cracks like Brady and Romo, but those guys are one in million. He's had his 15 minutes of fame. He's not even better than Lock.
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PatersonPlank : 7/26/2024 6:42 pm : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination



Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.



Nah, Italians get two days. Columbus Day, and National Pizza Day (Feb 9th!!)


and they are trying to cancel Columbus Day
hey, I like DJ but  
Del Shofner : 7/26/2024 6:57 pm : link
I'm rooting for Tommy too. I'm not ready to write him off.
I’ll offer my contrarian view …  
Spider56 : 7/26/2024 7:12 pm : link
Loyalty to individual players went out the window with free agency. My only loyalty is to the team and I want everyone who wears the uniform to do well; and I hope Schabs has the smarts to keep the right 53. Once a player leaves the team for another, they are history to me. So DJ is my QB until he’s not, and the other 3 are battling for 1, maybe 2 spots. May the best win.
Having A 3rd String QB On The Roster That Has Won  
Trainmaster : 7/26/2024 8:17 pm : link
multiple games is a good thing that gives the Giants options.


Think of the Kyle Lauletta, Ryan Nassib, Rhett Bomar and Andre Woodson draft picks (leaving out Davis Webb). De Vito is way better than any of those 4. Add Jake Fromm and Mike Glennon as QBs that De Vito has outplayed as a Giant.

The likely best scenario is De Vito is either the 2nd string QB in 2025 or the Giants get a late draft pick for him in a trade.

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JoeSchoens11 : 7/26/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16560591 5BowlsSoon said:
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that it's not a fair competition.



Do you not think Schoen’s “reputation” is somewhat at issue here? I mean, when you give a guy a 3 year 40m a year contract, you better hope he doesn’t disappoint…..I’m not implying his job security is at issue because I think he could survive this, but GMs are fired for less.
I’d go the other way. If we find a quality starting UDFA QB that would be a major win for JS (and the team) and be great for the cap situation next year while pretty much eliminating the injury clause risk.
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Eightshamrocks : 7/26/2024 9:22 pm : link
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?
Jones went 1-3. He got knocked out of two of those losses dur to the crap O-line.
RE: DeVito  
4xchamps : 7/26/2024 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16560518 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Is not an NFL QB.


Amen and thank you!
RE: RE: DeVito  
4xchamps : 7/26/2024 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16560587 5BowlsSoon said:
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?


The team was WAY better in the second half and you know it. DeVito did nothing impressive. He basically just didn't screw up. This has nothing to do with Jones.

RE: No wonder Giants fans are always getting ripped.  
5BowlsSoon : 7/26/2024 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16560682 robbieballs2003 said:
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Holy shit. Let's breakdown Eli's camp numbers. And the injury doesn't affect his throws? Nobody thought he'd be doing 11 on 11 already. Nobody. Not even the Giants. This is fuckin absurd. Hate DJ for what he has been in his career. Fine. But camp after a major injury? Unreal.


Robbie,
I reread my original,post…..there was not hate slung at DJ….just updating you on the FACTS these past 3 days.

Secondly, I was hoping someone would be able to share how Cutlets is doing in these practices. We only are given a small dosage of info. So far, not one person has shared any information concerning TD. If you know any, please share.

Lastly, just because I’m rooting for Cutlets to succeed and challenge DJ for the starting job doesn’t make me a bad person. Heck, I’m also one of the guys who doesn’t mind seeing Saquon leave town. So, as you can see, I’m probably not the fan you want me to be. I bleed blue, but I don’t follow any crowd….I follow my heart and mind.
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FStubbs : 7/27/2024 6:34 am : link
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?



The team was WAY better in the second half and you know it. DeVito did nothing impressive. He basically just didn't screw up. This has nothing to do with Jones.


If he "just didn't screw up", then he's at least an NFL QB.

Can anyone say how Drew Lock has looked?
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FStubbs : 7/27/2024 6:36 am : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination



Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.



Nah, Italians get two days. Columbus Day, and National Pizza Day (Feb 9th!!)



and they are trying to cancel Columbus Day


Should've been Verrazano day. Actually Italian, actually explored this country.
5Bowls, you should have  
section125 : 7/27/2024 7:07 am : link
proof read and analyzed your own question and stopped at "Only three days in". That is it. And all the bitching about him only throwing checkdowns and/or short passes day 1. Dabs said day one was practice on checkdowns...so peeps were criticizing without knowing what the practice was scheduled for.

Check back mid to late August when he gets his timing with Hyatt and Nabers down (well if he can).

IMHO, Jones will continue to be Jones. 6 years in he will not become Eli part deux.

As for DeVito, he is the 3rd string QB on a team where Daniel Jones is the starter and Drew Lock was signed at $5 mill to be backup. If Dabs or Schoen though DeVito was anything other than 3rd string, they would not have spent $5 mill on Lock.
RE: 125, you might rethink your words here  
5BowlsSoon : 7/27/2024 7:57 am : link
In comment 16561027 section125 said:
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As for DeVito, he is the 3rd string QB on a team where Daniel Jones is the starter and Drew Lock was signed at $5 mill to be backup. If Dabs or Schoen though DeVito was anything other than 3rd string, they would not have spent $5 mill on Lock.


Wow, this comment seems to put a lot of confidence in Schoen and Dabs judgment thinking that after one training camp, one preseason, and 6 regular season games, they WERE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED Cutlets can only be a 3rd string QB in this league. Wow…..I would be shocked if that is true, and here is why…

1. Cutlets looked damn good in preseason …..we all were impressed with his accuracy and ability to adapt, like run around to buy time or take off if he needed to.

2. Preseason also showed us, unlike Jones, he knows how to minimize turnovers when in the pocket or taking off. Again, I think we all trust Cutlets to not fumble, unlike Jones.

3. Nick Falato, do you know him, on Big Blue Banter, did a whole episode comparing Jones to Cutlets regarding where passes re being thrown and accuracy of such……and Cutlets clearly came out the much better QB slinging it downfield and more importantly, to the sidelines. You should go back and watch that YouTube video if you don’t believe me.

4. Cutlets had two very impressive games v Commanders and more importantly, on Monday Night Football, on the big stage, and you saw it- he led us down the field for a game winning FG with under 2 minutes to play. He played a great game and gave us something we haven’t seen since Eli Manning- a Prime Time regular season win.

5. Cutlets was 3-3, while Jones was 1-5.

If you are telling me Schoen and Dabs are absolutely convinced Jones is far better than Cutlets, or even better, than I hate to tell you this 125…but we then have two stupid people running our team. The same guys who picked Evan Neal at #7 when even our own proven scout Sy was screaming to the world about Neal’s deficiencies with his foot work and balance.

You or anyone else cannot convince me Cutlets can’t grow through experience to be a decent NFL QB….heck, Jones has had 5 years and look at what he did last year, year 5. Absolutely the worst QB I have ever seen…scared as heck, throwing quick passes for losses behind the LOS often. Did you see that fear in Cutlets during his 6 games?

So, Jones…5 years…doesn’t look any better….Cutlets 6 games….to be determined….

Oh, and why Schoen gave Lock 5 million is probably because he knew the media and masses would be wondering how come he didn’t add a QB to go along with Jones, a guy who might not even be able to play to start the season and a not so good 5 year starter, and Cutlets, a promising UDFA. Adding another decent arm only makes sense.
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5BowlsSoon : 7/27/2024 8:01 am : link
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?



The team was WAY better in the second half and you know it. DeVito did nothing impressive. He basically just didn't screw up. This has nothing to do with Jones.


That Monday Night last second win was “nothing impressive”……wow, I’ve watched that 4th quarter over and over again 100 times. It is still so “impressive” to me….we actually won a Prime Time regular season game…..something we have never even come close doing with your boy Jones.
RE: you lost me at the implication  
ThomasG : 7/27/2024 9:04 am : link
In comment 16560549 djm said:
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that it's not a fair competition.


Well then let’s make sure we give DeVito 5 more years like his counterpart gets. I like Tommy’s chances to be at or above Jones in half that time.
RE: DeVito  
nochance : 7/27/2024 9:11 am : link
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Is not an NFL QB.



Apparently other teams feel the same way. Devito played the entire pre season last year yet was on the practice squad. Teams could see whether he had any potential upside while seeing a record amount of QB injuries. No one would sign him for no compensation to the giants
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Section331 : 7/27/2024 10:17 am : link
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?



The team was WAY better in the second half and you know it. DeVito did nothing impressive. He basically just didn't screw up. This has nothing to do with Jones.


He threw 3 TD’s in a game, something Jones hasn’t done in 5 years. Here’s what I don’t understand about many Jones defenders - “how can you be a Giants fan and not root for your QB!” - yet here we have these same Jones defenders slamming an UDFA QBwho outplayed Jones last year.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/27/2024 10:20 am : link
The fact that there's a legit argument over whether Jones or DeVito is the better QB...well, sorta says a lot.
RE: Italians would also get Scampi day and Parm day if it were up to me. A  
smshmth8690 : 7/27/2024 10:31 am : link
In comment 16560695 floridafan said:
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Should be 3 parm days veal, chicken and eggplant.
I would throw in a mozzarella day too.


I can't get board without equal representation for the humble Italian-American MEATBALL!!! In gravy of course.
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Go Terps : 7/27/2024 10:49 am : link
DeVito had a better high school career than Jones (DeVito was highly recruited, Jones was not).

DeVito had a better college career than Jones.

DeVito was better than Jones last year during his first season in the NFL.

Maybe DeVito is just better than Jones.
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Ira : 7/27/2024 11:11 am : link
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Is not an NFL QB.

This is anti-Itatian discrimination



Agreed…..heck, the Pride people got a whole month to celebrate their lifestyle….the Italians I think have one day- Christopher Columbus Day- I think.



Nah, Italians get two days. Columbus Day, and National Pizza Day (Feb 9th!!)



Italians would also get Scampi day and Parm day if it were up to me. And Pizza day should be a whole month.


Pizza Day can't be limited to a month!
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Scooter185 : 7/27/2024 11:16 am : link
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Oh really….he was 3-3 last year while your boy was 1-5?



The team was WAY better in the second half and you know it. DeVito did nothing impressive. He basically just didn't screw up. This has nothing to do with Jones.




He threw 3 TD’s in a game, something Jones hasn’t done in 5 years. Here’s what I don’t understand about many Jones defenders - “how can you be a Giants fan and not root for your QB!” - yet here we have these same Jones defenders slamming an UDFA QBwho outplayed Jones last year.


It's specific to Jones. They'll slam any player who doesn't perform like WRs, TEs, OL, but Jones is unassailable and just needs more time
RE: Funny how people are so closed minded  
5BowlsSoon : 7/27/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16561164 Go Terps said:
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DeVito had a better high school career than Jones (DeVito was highly recruited, Jones was not).

DeVito had a better college career than Jones.

DeVito was better than Jones last year during his first season in the NFL.

Maybe DeVito is just better than Jones.


Once they have made up their minds. It appears to me no matter how many facts we share to show TD can be better than DJ…..nothing we say sinks in…..why? ……..I guess because DJ being a 1st round pick and TD being a UDFA settles that debate.

Tommy through 8 TDs in his 6 games….Jones, I believe through 2…… Doesn’t matter…..Jones was a 1st round pick…..Tommy won us a Prime Time game, his first…..Jones has lost about 15…..doesn’t matter…..Jones was a 1st round pick…..Jones has had a million fumbles in his 5 years….Tommy none (admittedly, too small of a sample…..I just want to remind people how risky Jones can be protecting that pigskin)…..doesn’t matter…..Jones was a 1st round pick…..

And for those who want to point to the Vikings playoff win to puff up Jones….I will concede, he did look good against one of the worst secondaries in football that year…..but I would like to point you to the following game in Philly….there you saw the real Jones, the one we have seen over and over for 5 years….scared of his own shadow and hurrying to get rid of the ball for fear of his safety….I will concede this too….he had to be fearful, but if he caves in under pressure like that, teams will always bring the heat just because they know, he will turtle up
RE: RE: DeVito  
Jersey Heel : 7/27/2024 1:01 pm : link
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Apparently other teams feel the same way. Devito played the entire pre season last year yet was on the practice squad. Teams could see whether he had any potential upside while seeing a record amount of QB injuries. No one would sign him for no compensation to the giants

That was before he played in actual NFL games and did well. You can bet your ass someone would claim him now that he’s proven to be an effective spot starter. At that point, he was a former undrafted free agent. Of course no one was claiming him.
I'm old enough to remember  
PEEJ : 7/27/2024 1:05 pm : link
Billy Kilmer and Joe Kapp.

NFL QB is more than "arm talent" and pedigree.
Someone please convince me…  
5BowlsSoon : 7/27/2024 2:32 pm : link
Why Jones is absolutely better than Cutlets. Honestly, I’m listening and open minded.

But I need facts not just opinions. Jones has 5 years of NFL experience and 4 years at Duke. So what in those 9 years makes you think Tommy is definitely inferior. Or what in TD’s college history and his 1 year of NFL experience makes you think he is definitely inferior to the Duke Dog?

Let me have it….please….I’m listening….
Need to keep Cutets around  
bluesince56 : 7/27/2024 3:25 pm : link
I don’t see DJ lasting the whole season.
RE: RE: 125, you might rethink your words here  
section125 : 7/27/2024 3:36 pm : link
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As for DeVito, he is the 3rd string QB on a team where Daniel Jones is the starter and Drew Lock was signed at $5 mill to be backup. If Dabs or Schoen though DeVito was anything other than 3rd string, they would not have spent $5 mill on Lock.



Wow, this comment seems to put a lot of confidence in Schoen and Dabs judgment thinking that after one training camp, one preseason, and 6 regular season games, they WERE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED Cutlets can only be a 3rd string QB in this league. Wow…..I would be shocked if that is true, and here is why…

1. Cutlets looked damn good in preseason …..we all were impressed with his accuracy and ability to adapt, like run around to buy time or take off if he needed to.

2. Preseason also showed us, unlike Jones, he knows how to minimize turnovers when in the pocket or taking off. Again, I think we all trust Cutlets to not fumble, unlike Jones.

3. Nick Falato, do you know him, on Big Blue Banter, did a whole episode comparing Jones to Cutlets regarding where passes re being thrown and accuracy of such……and Cutlets clearly came out the much better QB slinging it downfield and more importantly, to the sidelines. You should go back and watch that YouTube video if you don’t believe me.

4. Cutlets had two very impressive games v Commanders and more importantly, on Monday Night Football, on the big stage, and you saw it- he led us down the field for a game winning FG with under 2 minutes to play. He played a great game and gave us something we haven’t seen since Eli Manning- a Prime Time regular season win.

5. Cutlets was 3-3, while Jones was 1-5.

If you are telling me Schoen and Dabs are absolutely convinced Jones is far better than Cutlets, or even better, than I hate to tell you this 125…but we then have two stupid people running our team. The same guys who picked Evan Neal at #7 when even our own proven scout Sy was screaming to the world about Neal’s deficiencies with his foot work and balance.

You or anyone else cannot convince me Cutlets can’t grow through experience to be a decent NFL QB….heck, Jones has had 5 years and look at what he did last year, year 5. Absolutely the worst QB I have ever seen…scared as heck, throwing quick passes for losses behind the LOS often. Did you see that fear in Cutlets during his 6 games?

So, Jones…5 years…doesn’t look any better….Cutlets 6 games….to be determined….

Oh, and why Schoen gave Lock 5 million is probably because he knew the media and masses would be wondering how come he didn’t add a QB to go along with Jones, a guy who might not even be able to play to start the season and a not so good 5 year starter, and Cutlets, a promising UDFA. Adding another decent arm only makes sense.


There is nothing to be re-thought. You asked a question and when the answer isn't what you want, you dismiss it. So, in fact you are not asking a question for an answer. You have your answer in your head and are not moving off of it.

Simple answer, for the umpteenth time, if DeVito was so highly thought of, then some team would have signed him away from the Giants. Period. If a player has talent, some team will sign him for more money.

They signed Lock - Schoen said it in conversation with Daboll - because TT went to the Jets for $7 mill. Again, if DeVito was close to that ability, Schoen would have signed him for $2 mill and ignored Lock. They wanted a guy that wasn't going to be often injured. The Giants could have signed another PS QB.

But since the answer is obvious and you cannot conceive of it, you dispute it. The problem isn't between Jones and DeVito - the $40 mill QB is playing. The problem is Lock vs DeVito. The question is whether DeVito can beat out Lock for backup.
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5BowlsSoon : 7/27/2024 3:43 pm : link
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that it's not a fair competition.



Well then let’s make sure we give DeVito 5 more years like his counterpart gets. I like Tommy’s chances to be at or above Jones in half that time.


Exactly TG, it’s one thing to find fault with TD because he went undrafted but it’s another to say a guy who has been poor to mediocre for 5 years has to be better than him because at least he was drafted is another matter.

Give me proof to support why the poor to mediocre guy is better? Why?
RE: RE: RE: you lost me at the implication  
ThomasG : 7/27/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16561335 5BowlsSoon said:
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that it's not a fair competition.



Well then let’s make sure we give DeVito 5 more years like his counterpart gets. I like Tommy’s chances to be at or above Jones in half that time.



Exactly TG, it’s one thing to find fault with TD because he went undrafted but it’s another to say a guy who has been poor to mediocre for 5 years has to be better than him because at least he was drafted is another matter.

Give me proof to support why the poor to mediocre guy is better? Why?


I cannot. I saw DeVito have some games last year as a rookie where he made some plays and won a few games, and some games where he was simply outmatched.

I basically saw the same with Jones except it is still happening to him in year 5.
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