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NFT: Yankees at Phillies - Game 2

section125 : 7/30/2024 6:49 pm
Warren vs Nola
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RE: RE: RE: Holmes simply cant be the closer anymore  
k2tampa : 7/30/2024 10:03 pm : link
In comment 16564443 Dave in Hoboken said:
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the second he gets aguy on base he starts to freeze up



He had some bad innings, but come on. The guy made one bad pitch. Dribbler, slow ground ball, ground single, slow ground ball, wild pitch, slow ground ball, then one hard ground ball DJ should have had.



Oh, please. It happens to him FAR too often. You trust this guy in the postseason?


Not what I said. Bitch when he screws up, but that was just bad luck. If Cabrera was at third that might have been a double play. If Jazz let's that last ground ball go it's foul (he was in foul territory when he caught it).
Why the hell do pitchers  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:03 pm : link
try to jump up and reach for balls over their heads. Turns and easy 4(or 6) unassisted PO into a hit.
Grisham does his  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:06 pm : link
job....runner to third and Verdugo gets the run in..
Rough night for Wells.  
bceagle05 : 7/30/2024 10:10 pm : link
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Yikes.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/30/2024 10:10 pm : link
Give Wells a day off tomorrow
Wells with another  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:12 pm : link
poor AB.

Who now on the mound?
RE: Yikes.  
Mike from SI : 7/30/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16564466 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Give Wells a day off tomorrow


Yup day game tomorrow starting at 12:35. He's gonna sit barring some crazy injury situation.
Tonkin almost misses the batters box with a pitch  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/30/2024 10:14 pm : link
Then gives up a tying single.

This fucking guy sucks
Hahahaha, this bullpen sucks tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2024 10:15 pm : link
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Tonkin did this  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:15 pm : link
the other night....there was no one else to bring in?
Total mismanagement  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:17 pm : link
of the pen by Boone again. Cannot keep throwing relievers one inning each.
RE: Rough night for Wells.  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16564465 bceagle05 said:
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He's OK but not in the cleanup spot. #7 hitter maybe.
Grisham!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/30/2024 10:19 pm : link
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what a strange game -  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2024 10:27 pm : link
why was Stanton sent up there to strike out?
Someone needs to tell Boone to take a nap during the game.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/30/2024 10:29 pm : link
WTF.
Chisholm  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/30/2024 10:30 pm : link
Hard to ding a guy who has 5 RBIs, but if he was sprinting out of the box last inning, he's standing on 2B. That changes the complexion of the inning.

I never understand how pros at this level aren't busting it every time.
RE: what a strange game -  
The_Boss : 7/30/2024 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16564485 Del Shofner said:
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why was Stanton sent up there to strike out?


IBM said so.
OK TONKIN  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/30/2024 10:32 pm : link
One more
Yes  
GruningsOnTheHill : 7/30/2024 10:33 pm : link
Yankees win.
RE: OK TONKIN  
The_Boss : 7/30/2024 10:33 pm : link
In comment 16564490 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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One more


Got ‘em
I always knew Tonkin was good  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/30/2024 10:33 pm : link
…
Lfg!  
Knickstape : 7/30/2024 10:34 pm : link
Good win
haha -  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2024 10:34 pm : link
Mike 'Gulf of' Tonkin closes it out.

(Excuse the Vietnam War reference....)
That's a gritty win.  
Mike from SI : 7/30/2024 10:34 pm : link
We will take it. 4 game winning streak!
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
Hell of a fucking win.

Starting to feel like the Yankees again.
That third strike  
shyster : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
got the loudest Yes! of the year from me.

Well done.
Two Innings Tonkin  
wigs in nyc : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
Make him closer, you cowards
Tonkie my boy!!!  
Stu11 : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
Love that guy. Moooonster win
Good win  
dune69 : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
Team has grit but bullpen is scary.
Small miracle type win  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2024 10:36 pm : link
after Holmes and Tonkin blowing a couple of leads. We'll certainly take it.
RE: That third strike  
Danny Kanell : 7/30/2024 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16564500 shyster said:
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got the loudest Yes! of the year from me.

Well done.


Me too. By far.
Ok, I take it back  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:38 pm : link
on Tonkin. Hung tough after the WP. Warren too.

Hmm. There is a little something back in these guys.

Too early to say, but perhaps Chisolm found a home in da Bronx.

4 in a row?

Orioles beat the BJs...

the pedigree and the stuff coming out of the pens  
wigs in nyc : 7/30/2024 10:38 pm : link
couldn’t have been more different

they’re going to have smoke and mirror their way through the end of the year

any internal cavalry coming? some AAA starter who could give us a jolt as a reliever?
RE: RE: what a strange game -  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16564489 The_Boss said:
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why was Stanton sent up there to strike out?



IBM said so.


Better chance cold off the bench than LeMahieu....
RE: the pedigree and the stuff coming out of the pens  
section125 : 7/30/2024 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16564509 wigs in nyc said:
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couldn’t have been more different

they’re going to have smoke and mirror their way through the end of the year

any internal cavalry coming? some AAA starter who could give us a jolt as a reliever?


Effross and Trivino? Schmidt later in August.
RE: the pedigree and the stuff coming out of the pens  
shyster : 7/30/2024 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16564509 wigs in nyc said:
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couldn’t have been more different

they’re going to have smoke and mirror their way through the end of the year

any internal cavalry coming? some AAA starter who could give us a jolt as a reliever?


Ian Hamilton, Scott Effross and JT Brubaker could all come back from the injured list, FWIW.

With this series win assured, 7 of the Yanks' next 8 series are against sub-.500 teams.
RE: the pedigree and the stuff coming out of the pens  
Mike from SI : 7/30/2024 10:43 pm : link
In comment 16564509 wigs in nyc said:
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couldn’t have been more different

they’re going to have smoke and mirror their way through the end of the year

any internal cavalry coming? some AAA starter who could give us a jolt as a reliever?


Efross is coming back at some point. Schmidt will be back at some point. In the playoffs, 2/3 of Nestor, Stroman, and Schmidt will be relievers. (I think they keep Stroman as the number 4 just because he doesn't have true strikeout stuff and is a seasoned professional, but who knows.) Will Warren may be on the postseason roster over some of the crap relievers.
Chisholm’s high finish reminds me of Griffey’s.  
Jim in Hoboken : 7/30/2024 10:53 pm : link
I dunno, Gleyber at 2B vs Cabrera at 3B, yes I am going to beat that horse to death.

Cabrera was cheering the loudest on one of Jazz’s HR’s, you like to see that.
RE: RE: the pedigree and the stuff coming out of the pens  
shyster : 7/30/2024 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16564516 shyster said:
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couldn’t have been more different

they’re going to have smoke and mirror their way through the end of the year

any internal cavalry coming? some AAA starter who could give us a jolt as a reliever?



Ian Hamilton, Scott Effross and JT Brubaker could all come back from the injured list, FWIW.



Cody Poteet is another arm who could return.
Efross is stuck at AAA  
Stu11 : 7/30/2024 11:09 pm : link
It's not the injury any more. His era is about 8.
It is amazing how many infield base hits and passed balls  
St. Jimmy : 7/30/2024 11:31 pm : link
the Phillies benifited from.
Great Series Win,  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2024 11:35 pm : link
would love to get the sweep tomorrow.
I am as "angry" as the rest with  
section125 : 7/30/2024 11:39 pm : link
Holmes, but man does he get some of the softest contact that manages to be a hit. He is a victim of his own sinker as they seem to end up little top spin rollers down the lines.

This is not any excuse, just an observation. He needs to get his control sorted out.

They are extremely weak at the late innings closing out games.
Just checking back in to say  
bceagle05 : 7/30/2024 11:39 pm : link
I can’t believe they pulled that one out. Great win.
RE: RE: RE: Holmes simply cant be the closer anymore  
Beer Man : 7/31/2024 4:34 am : link
In comment 16564443 Dave in Hoboken said:
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the second he gets aguy on base he starts to freeze up



He had some bad innings, but come on. The guy made one bad pitch. Dribbler, slow ground ball, ground single, slow ground ball, wild pitch, slow ground ball, then one hard ground ball DJ should have had.



Oh, please. It happens to him FAR too often. You trust this guy in the postseason?
+1. Exactly, your closer can't consistently put people on base and expect to be successful.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Holmes simply cant be the closer anymore  
k2tampa : 7/31/2024 8:04 am : link
In comment 16564549 Beer Man said:
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the second he gets aguy on base he starts to freeze up



He had some bad innings, but come on. The guy made one bad pitch. Dribbler, slow ground ball, ground single, slow ground ball, wild pitch, slow ground ball, then one hard ground ball DJ should have had.



Oh, please. It happens to him FAR too often. You trust this guy in the postseason?

+1. Exactly, your closer can't consistently put people on base and expect to be successful.


I'd love a better closer, but did you watch the game? How exactly did he consistently put people on base' last night? Six ground balls. One made it through the infield (barely). The last one was the hardest hit but even that wasn't scalded. Innings like that happen occasionally when you have a sinkerball pitcher as your closer.
yeah Holmes doesn't miss enough bats  
Stu11 : 7/31/2024 8:47 am : link
but it is what it is and his recent blows are not his fault he's getting nickel and dimed to death with soft contact and errors behind him. We don't have a better option. I think we'd have loved to get a Fairbanks or Finnegan but the prices were astronomical. Oh well we just have to hope for the best. Teams have gone into the playoffs with a shaky closer situation (Texas last year, Atlanta the year before) and had a guy or 2 get hot in the playoffs and solve it.
RE: yeah Holmes doesn't miss enough bats  
Essex : 7/31/2024 9:09 am : link
In comment 16564606 Stu11 said:
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but it is what it is and his recent blows are not his fault he's getting nickel and dimed to death with soft contact and errors behind him. We don't have a better option. I think we'd have loved to get a Fairbanks or Finnegan but the prices were astronomical. Oh well we just have to hope for the best. Teams have gone into the playoffs with a shaky closer situation (Texas last year, Atlanta the year before) and had a guy or 2 get hot in the playoffs and solve it.


i agree he got nickled and dimed last night (he didn't in Boston Friday night), but he threw an awful wild pitch to let the tying run score. At the moment, I think the concers are justified.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Holmes simply cant be the closer anymore  
Beer Man : 7/31/2024 9:12 am : link
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the second he gets aguy on base he starts to freeze up



He had some bad innings, but come on. The guy made one bad pitch. Dribbler, slow ground ball, ground single, slow ground ball, wild pitch, slow ground ball, then one hard ground ball DJ should have had.



Oh, please. It happens to him FAR too often. You trust this guy in the postseason?

+1. Exactly, your closer can't consistently put people on base and expect to be successful.



I'd love a better closer, but did you watch the game? How exactly did he consistently put people on base' last night? Six ground balls. One made it through the infield (barely). The last one was the hardest hit but even that wasn't scalded. Innings like that happen occasionally when you have a sinkerball pitcher as your closer.
Maybe you should watch more than one of their games. Last night was just another rinse and repeat with Clay Homes. Another BS because he keeps putting people on base. How many more excuses do we need for this guy? He's not a closer, and the team will find it very difficult to win a title if they keep running him out there to seal close games.
They overcame some  
Photoguy : 7/31/2024 10:33 am : link
shitty pitching to win this one. I'll take it.
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