A broken clock is right twice a day? Even the blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn? The sun doesn't shine on the same dog's ass every day? I'm running out lol
Is going to maintain. In hindsight I think Tanner Scott was the guy to go all in on. They have 1 lefty in the pen, a shutdown lefty option who can close really fits what the doctor ordered for this team.
One thought Leiter was the guy and the other was willing to pay what it took to get the best guy for their run this year. They even offloaded Soto to make room.
One thought Leiter was the guy and the other was willing to pay what it took to get the best guy for their run this year. They even offloaded Soto to make room.
So you would have been fine dealing Jones or Dominguez for a shot at improving the odds this year? They had no other prospects who were going to bring back a difference maker.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
He only has maybe 2 blown saves more than expected given his number of appearances. Which makes sense because he's especially vulnerable to the ghost runner.
He's also compounded by Torres. How many of his blown saves have also had a Torres error?
I plead for Boone to stop automatic Holmes after the setup guy comes off a mow-em-down inning. He throws DP balls or gives up base runners. Rather see him with a guy on first if needed. Other than that, hopefully reinforcements and the starters keeping their shit together is enough.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
I said he's not Mo. No one is and ever will be. I said he's an average closer. Average closers give us high BP and drive us nuts. IN a perfect world we'd have someone better closing games out but make no mistake we can do worse. Ask the Mets the year prior to getting Diaz on track. They lost dozens of games thx to the closer blowing game after game.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I get your point but do we need to go down Chapman memory lane again? I don't want to because trauma isn't fun to remember. The guy literally cost us a pennant and maybe more. I hear you though, Chapman was great too on a relative level and he too shit the bed in the biggest spot. They all do. Even Mo did 2-3 times but the difference is he was in the biggest spot 100 times.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I get your point but do we need to go down Chapman memory lane again? I don't want to because trauma isn't fun to remember. The guy literally cost us a pennant and maybe more. I hear you though, Chapman was great too on a relative level and he too shit the bed in the biggest spot. They all do. Even Mo did 2-3 times but the difference is he was in the biggest spot 100 times.
Chapman gave up a HR to lose the pennant to a guy who had a wire taped to his chest telling him what pitch was coming before he hit it.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I don't think that is it. How many times has he had some guy slam a ball into the turf and eke out an infield hit, followed by some broken bat bloop or a Torres flub.
His biggest issue is control. He loses his control and gets behind in the count and then has to come in. On the nights he has his control he is untouchable.
But he should not be the closer all the time.
Crap, DJ gonna get an extension with a player option
Philly was looking that way but since just before the ASB they have been awful. The Dodgers have been banged up and had their struggles with the pitching staff. Baltimore has been a mirror of us. Cleveland has a better record, but with all our flaws is there anyone in here remotely scared of playing them or anyone in the AL Central in a playoff series?
RE: There is just no dominant team at all in either league
Philly was looking that way but since just before the ASB they have been awful. The Dodgers have been banged up and had their struggles with the pitching staff. Baltimore has been a mirror of us. Cleveland has a better record, but with all our flaws is there anyone in here remotely scared of playing them or anyone in the AL Central in a playoff series?
No one in the AL scares me. When you consider the field I actually think its a fair expectation that this team reach the WS. On the other hand the starting pitching is an absolute wild card, including Cole this year.
As well as getting non Judge-Soto production. The pen is what it is and it won't change significantly now. They be good some nights, lousy others. how Cole/Gil/Rodon pitch will be the difference maker. If they are effective we can play with anyone.
As well as getting non Judge-Soto production. The pen is what it is and it won't change significantly now. They be good some nights, lousy others. how Cole/Gil/Rodon pitch will be the difference maker. If they are effective we can play with anyone.
What do you think about shutting down Gil as a starter and let him eat up the 6th thru 8th going forward down the stretch?
This is as wide-open a year as I can remember in MLB. Every playoff team has notable flaws.
And I agree that they will likely go as far as the starters can carry them. The #1 issue for this team right now is Gerrit Cole. If he can get back to at least 80% of what he was last season, it will be a huge boost.
What they do with Gil will be interesting. They have said he won't be on an innings limit, but they are monitoring his workload. Will he stay in the rotation for the postseason to give them a potent 1-2 of him and Cole? Or will they rather move him to the pen to try to save his arm a bit of wear and give them an overpowering reliever who can dominate, something they don't currently have?
Schmidt coming back strong would be a huge boost. You could have a playoff rotation of Cole, Schmidt, and two of Rodon/Stroman/Cortes, with Gil bolstering the pen.
The forgotten man is Clarke Schmidt. He was very good pre injury, but he's been out awhile. Again, another wildcard. Is he as good as before or was the time off a killer in terms of his flow. Starting pitchers can be fickle (in Cole's case, very fickle)
Stanton coming back and showing some ability at the plate is HUGE. If he skips his usual swoon on post injury return and goes back to mashing like he did earlier this season, this lineup is gonna be phenomenal.
will necessarily be shut down. To what extent I am not sure. I think Schmidt's return may come into play on that. And Will Warren's showing may help. Warren did himself well by getting past the 1st two innings and shutting down the Phillies afterward.
I do think Gil could be a prospect for the pen, but they will need to keep him somewhat stretched for late season/playoffs. But not sure what Schmidt's time line is...
The Phillies (albeit struggling mightily as we did) had not been swept in 62 series. They got swept throwing their 3 best starters against Gil (fair), Will Warren and Nestor Cortes. At home. Baseball is funny.
And to the discussed point of it being truly wide open this year, as of today no one in baseball is on pace for 100 wins.
The Phillies (albeit struggling mightily as we did) had not been swept in 62 series. They got swept throwing their 3 best starters against Gil (fair), Will Warren and Nestor Cortes. At home. Baseball is funny.
And to the discussed point of it being truly wide open this year, as of today no one in baseball is on pace for 100 wins.
good points...surprising to me is the Dodgers with a superstar lineup aren't close to matching the record and talent.
The forgotten man is Clarke Schmidt. He was very good pre injury, but he's been out awhile. Again, another wildcard. Is he as good as before or was the time off a killer in terms of his flow. Starting pitchers can be fickle (in Cole's case, very fickle)
Stanton coming back and showing some ability at the plate is HUGE. If he skips his usual swoon on post injury return and goes back to mashing like he did earlier this season, this lineup is gonna be phenomenal.
Yeah the Gil thing is interesting. They desperately need him right now in both roles. I think Rodon can be the key there. If he pitches like he did the first few months and his last 3 starts or so and Cole rounds into form then they can start a playoff series with those 2 and throw a Stroman or as you mentioned Schmidt if he comes back and finds his early season form in games 3 and or 4. That could free up Gil to be used in a super role out of the pen either as a multiple inning Mariano '96 type set-up guy or even as the closer. I do agree at some point they are going to limit his innings. If they need him as a SP they will start moving him around and skip turns.
Me neither! I always believed! (I am completely lying, and I still don't believe lol.)
Definitely catching Bryce Harper at the right time
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I am irked.
Which was what he was when he first broke out in 2021 - he'd be great for 4ish innings but almost never made it out of the 5th.
DJLM 6 - PHI 3
Exactly this. He's your long relief guy in the postseason
Leiter is going to be our BP savior?
Someone on Twitter said that there were 25 balls in this game alone hit harder than the one Gleyber couldn't play.
Leiter looking exactly like I expected.
Leiter looking exactly like I expected.
Hah....he shut your ass up, didn't he?
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Leiter looking exactly like I expected.
Hah....he shut your ass up, didn't he?
Nope. Not even my wife has that superpower.
One thought Leiter was the guy and the other was willing to pay what it took to get the best guy for their run this year. They even offloaded Soto to make room.
Yankees win.
SWEEP!
One thought Leiter was the guy and the other was willing to pay what it took to get the best guy for their run this year. They even offloaded Soto to make room.
So you would have been fine dealing Jones or Dominguez for a shot at improving the odds this year? They had no other prospects who were going to bring back a difference maker.
Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
He's also compounded by Torres. How many of his blown saves have also had a Torres error?
I plead for Boone to stop automatic Holmes after the setup guy comes off a mow-em-down inning. He throws DP balls or gives up base runners. Rather see him with a guy on first if needed. Other than that, hopefully reinforcements and the starters keeping their shit together is enough.
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
I said he's not Mo. No one is and ever will be. I said he's an average closer. Average closers give us high BP and drive us nuts. IN a perfect world we'd have someone better closing games out but make no mistake we can do worse. Ask the Mets the year prior to getting Diaz on track. They lost dozens of games thx to the closer blowing game after game.
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I get your point but do we need to go down Chapman memory lane again? I don't want to because trauma isn't fun to remember. The guy literally cost us a pennant and maybe more. I hear you though, Chapman was great too on a relative level and he too shit the bed in the biggest spot. They all do. Even Mo did 2-3 times but the difference is he was in the biggest spot 100 times.
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Except he is. By every metric he’s a decent but flawed closer. He’s just not Mo.
I disagree DJM, this guy is a time bomb ready to go off at any moment. That fly ball stayed in the park by luck... Otherwise we are all telling a diff story. Mo? LOL... couldn't carry his jock strap on a good day
Why the disparaging remarks? Not necessary at all. Holmes problem is inconsistency. He has ability and when right is as good as there is in Baseball. He didn't make the All Star team by luck.
His problem is inconsistent control, but his stuff is nasty.
Yes I could wring his neck 2 days per week. And yes I would like a second option. By any metric, there was MO and then there was everyone else. So every reliever couldn't carry MO's jock.
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I get your point but do we need to go down Chapman memory lane again? I don't want to because trauma isn't fun to remember. The guy literally cost us a pennant and maybe more. I hear you though, Chapman was great too on a relative level and he too shit the bed in the biggest spot. They all do. Even Mo did 2-3 times but the difference is he was in the biggest spot 100 times.
Chapman gave up a HR to lose the pennant to a guy who had a wire taped to his chest telling him what pitch was coming before he hit it.
Judge not so much. I guess we'll give him a pass for having one rough day, though.
Holmes with the save--and he only gave up 1 hit!
Holmes has the stuff but doesn't have the mentality. He's great when everything is perfect but the second he gets behind a guy, he folds.
We don't need Mo. We don't even need Chapman. But Holmes isn't a closer. I can comfortably say this team cannot win a World Series with him as the primary closer in October.
I don't think that is it. How many times has he had some guy slam a ball into the turf and eke out an infield hit, followed by some broken bat bloop or a Torres flub.
His biggest issue is control. He loses his control and gets behind in the count and then has to come in. On the nights he has his control he is untouchable.
But he should not be the closer all the time.
Just looked at the standings. They are only 4 games over .500 at home(?) and have the highest run differential in MLB.
It is strange that they could have such a bad run and still be statistically at the top of most categories.
No one in the AL scares me. When you consider the field I actually think its a fair expectation that this team reach the WS. On the other hand the starting pitching is an absolute wild card, including Cole this year.
What do you think about shutting down Gil as a starter and let him eat up the 6th thru 8th going forward down the stretch?
And I agree that they will likely go as far as the starters can carry them. The #1 issue for this team right now is Gerrit Cole. If he can get back to at least 80% of what he was last season, it will be a huge boost.
What they do with Gil will be interesting. They have said he won't be on an innings limit, but they are monitoring his workload. Will he stay in the rotation for the postseason to give them a potent 1-2 of him and Cole? Or will they rather move him to the pen to try to save his arm a bit of wear and give them an overpowering reliever who can dominate, something they don't currently have?
Schmidt coming back strong would be a huge boost. You could have a playoff rotation of Cole, Schmidt, and two of Rodon/Stroman/Cortes, with Gil bolstering the pen.
Stanton coming back and showing some ability at the plate is HUGE. If he skips his usual swoon on post injury return and goes back to mashing like he did earlier this season, this lineup is gonna be phenomenal.
I do think Gil could be a prospect for the pen, but they will need to keep him somewhat stretched for late season/playoffs. But not sure what Schmidt's time line is...
And to the discussed point of it being truly wide open this year, as of today no one in baseball is on pace for 100 wins.
And to the discussed point of it being truly wide open this year, as of today no one in baseball is on pace for 100 wins.
good points...surprising to me is the Dodgers with a superstar lineup aren't close to matching the record and talent.
Stanton coming back and showing some ability at the plate is HUGE. If he skips his usual swoon on post injury return and goes back to mashing like he did earlier this season, this lineup is gonna be phenomenal.
Yeah the Gil thing is interesting. They desperately need him right now in both roles. I think Rodon can be the key there. If he pitches like he did the first few months and his last 3 starts or so and Cole rounds into form then they can start a playoff series with those 2 and throw a Stroman or as you mentioned Schmidt if he comes back and finds his early season form in games 3 and or 4. That could free up Gil to be used in a super role out of the pen either as a multiple inning Mariano '96 type set-up guy or even as the closer. I do agree at some point they are going to limit his innings. If they need him as a SP they will start moving him around and skip turns.
Absolutely fantastic!