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NFT: Cobra Kai

Matt M. : 7/31/2024 2:08 pm
I know it was big when this series started, but I haven't seen anything here about the new season. I was a little late to it and binged the first 2 seasons together. At first, it was fun and nostalgic and a new perspective on the old story.

The last couple of seasons were getting stupid, but I decided to keep watching out of morbid curiosity just to see how it ends. But, boy is it difficult. This last season is terrible. The writing, the story, the acting, the action. And do they get paid every time they say, "Sekai Taikai"? It's not even a real tournament, so why must it be directly referenced at least 5 times an episode (probably more).
Not loving it  
PepperJ52 : 7/31/2024 2:19 pm : link
Also not a fan of them only dropping 5 episodes at a time (15 total in 3 weeks increments for the series finale). I’ll finish it out because I’m curious how they end it (my money is on a showdown between Johnny and Kreese) but if it hasn’t jumped the shark already, the engine is revving).
RE: Not loving it  
Matt M. : 7/31/2024 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16565094 PepperJ52 said:
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Also not a fan of them only dropping 5 episodes at a time (15 total in 3 weeks increments for the series finale). I’ll finish it out because I’m curious how they end it (my money is on a showdown between Johnny and Kreese) but if it hasn’t jumped the shark already, the engine is revving).
My thoughts exactly.
Sweep the leg!!  
Grey Pilgrim : 7/31/2024 2:26 pm : link
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Really feels like they simple ran out of ideas  
Greg from LI : 7/31/2024 2:40 pm : link
And kind of flailed around to come up with more material to get more seasons once the original storyline pretty much ran its course by season 3.
RE: Really feels like they simple ran out of ideas  
Matt M. : 7/31/2024 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16565121 Greg from LI said:
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And kind of flailed around to come up with more material to get more seasons once the original storyline pretty much ran its course by season 3.
Flailed is right.
I loved the movies back in the day and season 1 was amazing  
GiantBlue : 7/31/2024 2:53 pm : link
seeing Daniel & Johnny as adults.

I appreciate Daniel's absolute devotion to Miaggi and all his teachings, but there are times when even I get sick of him and his sanctimony.

Then there is the brawl in the school where a student falls from a balcony and breaks his back. Another student has his arm broken by the "Hawkman". Yet, there are no police investigations, no interactions by parents saying to stay away from these dojos and finally no common sense by any parenting/school administration body to limit the bloodshed.

Finally, there is another all out brawl at the LaRusso house where murder is on everyone's minds; especially the Cobra Kai Blonde who wants to dismember LaRusso's daughter.

Again, children are bloodied, bones broken, etc. and noone in authority says enough is enough. These kids continue to just wander through town ready to brawl, ready to bully, ready to be physically beaten at a moment's notice.

You are right. It jumped the shark in a major way and watching it now is clearly just a curiosity as to how it ends.

It is clear that Mr. Miaggi was the cork holding the craziness back in the "Valley".
Fun show  
JoeyBigBlue : 7/31/2024 2:56 pm : link
In the first 2 seasons, but it’s gotten worse over the last 3 seasons. The kids on the show all look like adults now and it doesn’t have the same charm.
Haven’t started it yet  
UConn4523 : 7/31/2024 3:22 pm : link
by I actually like the weekly drops, wish more shows went back to it.
Companies always seem to be their own worst enemies.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/31/2024 3:50 pm : link
Netflix prides themselves on binging so they want to keep that model. I read that Netflix said you can't binge 15 episodes in a row so they are helping out the viewer. Give me a fuckin break. They are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They obviously broke it up because they don't want people canceling after they binged all 15 episodes. So, what is it? Are you into binging or not? You can't have it both ways and then tell your customers you are doing it for their benefit. It is insulting. Be honest.
it looks like they're  
Enzo : 7/31/2024 3:55 pm : link
trying to save $$ wherever they can on sets and actors at this point. In some cases it looks like they just grabbed random people off the street for some of the smaller roles and background parts. And why are they in the woods all the time? I get it that Martin Kove is like 80 years old, but they need to go easy on the makeup. His face looks like it's about to fall off. Also, Johnny vs. Barnes should have been a bigger deal. Instead, they fought and it was forgotten 5 mins later.
I had such a low bar  
pjcas18 : 7/31/2024 3:56 pm : link
for this show, always viewed it as inane but fun.

did they lose even that?

and yes  
Enzo : 7/31/2024 3:56 pm : link
having the characters say the name of the tournament every few mins was just weird. It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

RE: I had such a low bar  
robbieballs2003 : 7/31/2024 3:58 pm : link
In comment 16565229 pjcas18 said:
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for this show, always viewed it as inane but fun.

did they lose even that?


This show is about one thing for me ... Johnny Lawrence. Don't lose that and I'll be okay.
its still good but its run its course thank god  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/31/2024 3:58 pm : link
Daniel is the true villain and Tori looks like she is always crying or in a bad mood.
RE: I had such a low bar  
Enzo : 7/31/2024 4:00 pm : link
In comment 16565229 pjcas18 said:
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for this show, always viewed it as inane but fun.

did they lose even that?

same. But the writers seem to have run out of ideas and some of their choices just aren't landing. Chozen should be a badass but they turned him into a clown.
RE: RE: I had such a low bar  
pjcas18 : 7/31/2024 4:08 pm : link
In comment 16565232 robbieballs2003 said:
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for this show, always viewed it as inane but fun.

did they lose even that?




This show is about one thing for me ... Johnny Lawrence. Don't lose that and I'll be okay.


Same, that heel/face turn for Johnny is something only 80's/90's wrestling fans can truly appreciate. it's a little like rooting for Hulk Hogan.

RE: it looks like they're  
UConn4523 : 7/31/2024 4:22 pm : link
In comment 16565228 Enzo said:
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trying to save $$ wherever they can on sets and actors at this point. In some cases it looks like they just grabbed random people off the street for some of the smaller roles and background parts. And why are they in the woods all the time? I get it that Martin Kove is like 80 years old, but they need to go easy on the makeup. His face looks like it's about to fall off. Also, Johnny vs. Barnes should have been a bigger deal. Instead, they fought and it was forgotten 5 mins later.


You can still do it just not at launch. I don’t have a problem with it. The reasoning, however dumb it may be, doest really change anything. If you want to watch all 15 then just wait the extra 2 weeks and pretend it doesn’t come out until then.
We watch it but it is really really really dumb  
oghwga : 7/31/2024 5:25 pm : link
Johnny Lawrence is a moron and not a functional or fully formed human being. His living independently makes no sense. Nothing makes any sense. Who pays for all these kids to go to Barcelona? Where are their parents? Why did kriese escape prison only to fly overseas(?) to some jungle dojo where they also have insane students? Why is winning karate tournaments so important to these people?

At least it is more PG now, early on, it reminded me of the Walking Dead, so incredibly simplistic in its writing that only children wouldn't question the plot holes, but TWD added gore and cobra Kai added blowjob humor.

It is incredibly cringey and yet you can refer back to my first sentence where it says that we watch it.
The fact that this show ran for this long is  
antdog24 : 7/31/2024 7:29 pm : link
a miracle. This had sharknado vibes all over it, people are suckers for nostalgia
It's a campy show that the wife and I are still enjoying  
RC in MD : 8/1/2024 9:18 am : link
laughing at and rolling our eyes at. After the first season, we realized that this was going to be a "let's see how this show ends" rather than "this show is awesome" kind of a show, and we're ok with it.

Having said that, one of the funniest deleted scenes is Johnny's interaction with a BJJ dojo. Being a BJJ practitioner with all of my kids doing it, it made me chuckle since there is a bit of a looking down the nose by BJJ folks at the more traditional martial arts.
Karate vs BJJ - ( New Window )
RE: RE: it looks like they're  
PepperJ52 : 8/1/2024 9:41 am : link
Actually, they’re dropping the episodes quarterly. Next 5 won’t be until November.
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trying to save $$ wherever they can on sets and actors at this point. In some cases it looks like they just grabbed random people off the street for some of the smaller roles and background parts. And why are they in the woods all the time? I get it that Martin Kove is like 80 years old, but they need to go easy on the makeup. His face looks like it's about to fall off. Also, Johnny vs. Barnes should have been a bigger deal. Instead, they fought and it was forgotten 5 mins later.



You can still do it just not at launch. I don’t have a problem with it. The reasoning, however dumb it may be, doest really change anything. If you want to watch all 15 then just wait the extra 2 weeks and pretend it doesn’t come out until then.
Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Stu11 : 8/1/2024 9:53 am : link
Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.
RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Enzo : 8/1/2024 10:06 am : link
In comment 16565724 Stu11 said:
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Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.

I've given up hope on Dutch ever appearing. They've mentioned him a couple of times which may have been their way of acknowledging him.
RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
UConn4523 : 8/1/2024 10:13 am : link
In comment 16565724 Stu11 said:
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Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.


I don’t agree, Entourage was downright awful at the end. It did try to be the godfather in the beginning either but it was good then so this doesn’t compute.
Pepper  
UConn4523 : 8/1/2024 10:13 am : link
people can still cancel and come back whenever they want, so my point remains.
RE: RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Greg from LI : 8/1/2024 10:18 am : link
In comment 16565750 Enzo said:
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I've given up hope on Dutch ever appearing. They've mentioned him a couple of times which may have been their way of acknowledging him.


Chad McQueen, who played Dutch, stopped acting a long time ago and told the producers of Cobra Kai that he had no interest in doing the role.
RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Matt M. : 8/1/2024 1:27 pm : link
In comment 16565724 Stu11 said:
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Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.
What about the red-head girl from Karate Kid III? Has she made an appearance?
RE: RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Strahan91 : 8/1/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16566059 Matt M. said:
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Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.

What about the red-head girl from Karate Kid III? Has she made an appearance?

Yep. In the show she's Daniel's wife's cousin who set them up at some point
RE: RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Greg from LI : 8/1/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16566059 Matt M. said:
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What about the red-head girl from Karate Kid III? Has she made an appearance?


Robin Lively, who is Blake Lively's older half-sister. Robin Lively's brother is Jason Lively, who played Rusty Griswold in European Vacation,
No More Kings - Sweep The Leg (2007)  
Grey Pilgrim : 8/1/2024 3:28 pm : link
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQ3vaiv47I - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Cobra Kai jumping the shark?  
Matt M. : 8/2/2024 2:31 am : link
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Meh. It's like Entourage. It can never really get bad because it is what it is. They're not trying to make the Godfather or French Connection here. It is what it is, a fun goofy show with fake fight scenes and fun goofy characters. Good nostalgia from the 80's. My son says he thinks Hilary Swank is making an appearance sometime this season. She's the last remaining main character from the movie series we haven't seen yet.

What about the red-head girl from Karate Kid III? Has she made an appearance?


Yep. In the show she's Daniel's wife's cousin who set them up at some point
That's right. I thought she was in it, but I couldn't remember how exactly.
I think Cobra Kai was born out of videos like this  
Matt M. : 8/2/2024 2:51 am : link
and a few others like it.
Daniel is the bully - ( New Window )
Well that sucks  
JOrthman : 8/2/2024 7:37 am : link
This was my big fear with this show, that they'd keep making seasons, milking it and ruin it. I really thought they should of ended it last season.
This release schedule is weak. It's not really one final season  
Matt M. : 8/2/2024 3:24 pm : link
like this. It's more like 3 mini seasons.

If it wasn't jumped before episode 5, that shark is done now. Creese just travels in and out of the country with no issue after escaping prison and then shows at a supposed big international tournament in an EU country? Yeah, OK.

And the fights for captains were terrible. Why the Hell would the medical center be calling Larusso's wife?
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