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DanMetroMan : 8/1/2024 8:38 am

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Acuna 1-4, BB, SB, K (July OPS .555, he still may be up late in the season to provide speed/defense but his window for coming up and playing regularly this season has probably closed. He has to hit better)

Baty
1-4, 2b (Like much of the Mets system July was not a great month for Baty. It seems more likely than not he's going to be with another organization in 2025, maybe as part of a potential Alcantara deal? We shall see)

Ritter 1-4, HR (21st), 3 k's (he's now 3rd in the IL in HR's)

JBJ 1-4, HR, BB, K (also threw out a runner at the plate)

Jarvis 2 innings 6 hits 4 runs 2 walks 2 k's

J. Ramirez (skipped AA) 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's (FB up to 94)


AA
Ramirez 0-4 (just an atrocious season for Ramirez. Extremely high odds he's either dealt for a low level minor leaguer that doesn't need a 40 man spot, or is DFA'ed)

Rudick 2-4, 2B, K

Clifford 0-4, K (5 for his last 38. Still finishes July with an .873 OPS for the month, 30 k's over 83 ab's obviously is too many)

Consuegra 3-4, HR, K

Suarez 6 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 9 k's (took a perfect game into the 6th. He's a 6-year FA after the season so unless the Mets add him to the 40, he can sign explore opportunities with other teams)

SRF 1 perfect 3 k's


BK (game 1)
Morabito 1-4, 2 k's

Reimer 1-3

Suero 2-4, K (one of the best pure athletes in the organization)

Wenninger 4 innings 4 hits 2 runs 3 walks 5 k's (I suspect he ends up in the bullpen, but a quietly having a very solid season, his CU is a real weapon)

Herrera 1.1 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's (Really nice pickup on a minor league deal. He's made 12 appearances and has only allowed 1 ER while striking out 27 over 25.1 innings)

BK (game 2)

Morabito 1-4, 2 SB, K

Suero 1-3, BB, 2 SB

Tong 5.1 innings 6 hits 2 runs 1 walk 10 k's

St. Lucie

Baro 2-4, 2b (Very solid season for Baro, certainly one to watch going forward)

Ewing 1-5, 3B, 2 k's (has struggled post promotion to St. Lucie but has more power than his frame would suggest and remains one of the more intriguing young hitters in the system)

Hernandez 3-5 (one of the mst underrated performers in the system, questions regarding can he remain a C impact his projection, but could be a bat first MLB backup C who also sees some time at 1b)

Houck 1-4, HR, BB, 2 k’s , 3 errors(Very disappointing season for the Mets 2023 1st round pick)

Henriquez 1-5 (Not much power but this kid can HIT. If he can add some more strength he has a shot to be a big league utility player)
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DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 2:06 pm : link
Sproat 3 innings 2 hits 1 run 2 walks 2 k's. FB peaked at 97.3 mph. 49 pitches/30 strikes #Mets
Sproat  
DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 2:18 pm : link
tossed for arguing balls and strikes.
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DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 2:21 pm : link
Justin Jarvis into the game relieving Sproat with a 1-2-3 inning including a K of Joey Gallo. FB up to 94 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 2:38 pm : link
Admittedly, I don't "tune in" for many Justin Jarvis starts but he's looked very good. FB up to 95 in his 2nd inning of work. 2 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's, 26 pitches/19 strikes #Mets
RE: Sproat  
DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 3:46 pm : link
In comment 16576487 DanMetroMan said:
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tossed for arguing balls and strikes.


Looks like he was tossed arguing a call at the plate walking back to the dugout. They went to commercial when it happened so it was unclear what he was arguing.
Jack  
DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 5:02 pm : link
Wenninger has moved up to 4th in the organization in K/9 (just behind Brandon Sproat), 4th in K%, 5th in FIP and now leads the organization in K/BB
RE: Mets  
DanMetroMan : 8/14/2024 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16575652 DanMetroMan said:
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reportedly "extremely" disappointed in their 2024 DSL group.Expectation is major changes are on the way.


No lies told lol

Mayer “ Sources: Mets have let go director of international scouting Steve Barningham.”
RE: RE: Mets  
Eric on Li : 8/14/2024 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16576710 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16575652 DanMetroMan said:


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reportedly "extremely" disappointed in their 2024 DSL group.Expectation is major changes are on the way.



No lies told lol

Mayer “ Sources: Mets have let go director of international scouting Steve Barningham.”


i assume that was an ineptpler hire or promo?
He’s  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 8:25 am : link
Actually been with the Mets for a very long time but he’s been in his current role since 2021. The Mets have done very poorly in LA recently so the firings (most of the DR staff was let go as well) shouldn’t be a major surprise.
RE: He’s  
Eric on Li : 8/15/2024 10:10 am : link
In comment 16576926 DanMetroMan said:
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Actually been with the Mets for a very long time but he’s been in his current role since 2021. The Mets have done very poorly in LA recently so the firings (most of the DR staff was let go as well) shouldn’t be a major surprise.


wow 2021 would mean he probably floated through at least 3 but possibly all 4 of cohen's gms. guessing he was a tanous guy, so wonder what happens with him.
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 10:57 am : link
.@SyracuseMets
Max Joseph Kranick (presumably a bullpen game as he hasn't thrown 3+ since June)
@RumblePoniesBB
Jordan Christopher Geber
@BKCyclones
Justin Thomas Lawson (first start of the season, hasn't topped 4 innings yet this season)
@stluciemets
Edgar Moreta
Great  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 10:58 am : link
read
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Eric on Li : 8/15/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16577037 DanMetroMan said:
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very cool dan. here's a good VBA in the real world exploration by cressey. im not positive about this because i cant find much public VBA data, but i would guess that lower launch angles are associated with lower VBAs (using cresseys comparison soto's career launch angle is 33% lower than league average and trouts is 50% higher). the physics of it just seem obvious.

would be funny if out of all this vientos low launch angle was actually the thing that helped his swing translate.

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Conclusion

In my opinion the best thing that understanding a player’s VBA can help with is creating a better approach for each hitter. Mike Trout probably isn’t going to look to swing up in the zone until he has to with two strikes or if a situation allows for it. Juan Soto probably is going to look for a pith up in the zone. This isn’t to say that they don’t train to work on these locations they struggle with; my guess is that they actually spend a lot of time working on these weaknesses. There are videos of Trout talking doing about some high tee work trying to stay on top and flat and hit ground balls up the middle. This seems like a great drill to help him feel what he needs to do in order to get to these balls up in the zone when he has to hit them. As any great hitter would agree, having a good approach is likely the most important thing to being a good hitter but it’s hard to individualize that approach if you don’t know what pitches/locations a hitter can handle best.

Vertical Bat Angle: A New Way to Look at Batter vs. Pitcher Matchups - ( New Window )
actually looks like i may have that a little backwards  
Eric on Li : 8/15/2024 11:35 am : link
from driveline:

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The finding that VBA above expectation is negatively correlated with both spray and launch angle is very interesting but makes sense when thinking about why that might be.

A lower than expected VBA (barrel tipped more toward the ground) is associated with a higher spray angle (ball hit toward the opposite field) and a higher launch angle. This suggests that swings that fall into this category tend to lead to cutting the bottom half of the ball which in turn leads to weaker hit fly balls that tail toward the opposite field. In contrast, higher than expected VBA may lead to hitting the top half of the ball which results in balls hit harder at lower launch angles to the pull side.


(i think the bottomline is all this is that there are likely characteristics to prefer somewhere in there that mark the hallmarks of what we think of as "line drive hitters" or "contact hitters" or "power hitters", and as the game evolves different styles of hitters will have their moments as a response to how different styles of pitchers evolve - but ultimately as the soto/trout examples show there is more than one way to skin a cat and great players can be great in different ways)

https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2022/12/hitting-biomechanics-barrel-direction/#:~:text=A%20lower%20than%20expected%20VBA,and%20a%20higher%20launch%20angle. - ( New Window )
Benge  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 11:48 am : link
and Collins both to debut for St. Lucie tonight.
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 11:51 am : link
Marco Vargas did *not* play last night after being pulled from the previous game. Maybe it was a breather but... 4 trips to the IL already this season. Hopefully, he's in there tonight...#Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 11:53 am : link
@BaseballAmerica and @fangraphs rank @mets system #10. @MLBPipeline has them ranked #13 (they were also #13 in their preseason rankings). Given the injuries system wide, and lack of production from most bats... not bad #Mets
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 11:55 am : link
have now released 14 minor leaguers in recent weeks.
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 12:32 pm : link
Congrats to 2023 4th round pick Austin Troesser who has been promoted to @BKCyclones. Troesser (who missed time to due to injury) has only thrown 36 innings in 2024 but has an eye-popping 13.0 k/9 (3rd in the org 30+ innings) and 34.4 k% (2nd) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 12:34 pm : link
Willy Fanas has been moved to the development list. He's posted a .535 OPS while with @stluciemets including a .074/.133/.074 line over 9 August games #Mets
not sure if this is better in minors or majors thread  
Eric on Li : 8/15/2024 12:44 pm : link
but a good article none the less on stearns ponderings in staffing the FO. Pretty interesting that he's considering not hiring a GM.
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RE: Sproat  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16576458 DanMetroMan said:
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looks solid, but not dominant so far.1 swing and miss, command is kinda meh


Maybe I should be a scout (JK)

Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
Mets top pitching prospect Brandon Sproat had an abbreviated second outing today for Syracuse, throwing only 49 pitches: Two hits, two walks, one run over 3 innings. Scout in attendance said his velocity was 94-97 (down from 96-99 two weeks ago) and command was not sharp.
Source  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 2:51 pm : link
tells me in addition to Barningham

John Hendricks
Oliver Dominguez
Luis Scheker
Martin Arvizu
Andres Nunez
Christian Cabal

have all been let go.


John Hendricks: Supervisor, Pitching Evaluation & Development

Oliver Dominguez: Supervisor, Dominican Republic & Cuba

Luis Scheker: Development Scout/Caribbean Cross-checker

Martin Arvizu: Coordinator, Mexico

Andres Nunez: Scout, Venezuela

Christian Cabral: Scout, ABC Islands
TIL  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 2:57 pm : link
Joe Oliver is a scout for the Mets.
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DanMetroMan : 8/15/2024 3:59 pm : link
Spring Breakout game for 2025 is vs. @Nationals
prospects and will take place at Palm Beach on 3/16
Any word on what is going on with Baty?  
csb : 8/16/2024 8:45 am : link
This has been his worst stretch on his minor league career?
Carson Benge  
DanMetroMan : 8/16/2024 8:58 am : link
1-for-2, 3 BB, R, 2 SB

Corey Collins removed after 1 AB (presumably a physical issue)

Marco Vargas went 0-4 and then was pinch hit for
nice start to Benge's career  
KDavies : 8/16/2024 3:20 pm : link
hoping they have something with him
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DanMetroMan : 8/17/2024 9:00 am : link
Tells me Jett Williams is expected to play again this season, expected to join St Lucie on a rehab assignment as soon as next week
RE: Carson Benge  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16577572 DanMetroMan said:
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1-for-2, 3 BB, R, 2 SB

Corey Collins removed after 1 AB (presumably a physical issue)

Marco Vargas went 0-4 and then was pinch hit for


1 AB, 1 IL trip. @mets 6th round pick Corey Collins placed on the 7 day IL #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/17/2024 2:39 pm : link
Minor league managers named L. Acuna the #1 baserunner in the IL, B. Sproat the best pitching prospect in the EL, @JCornielly the best CU in the SAL, ex @mets T. Stuart best command in the EL, Y. Cuevas the best defensive 1b in the FSL per @BaseballAmerica https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2024-milb-best-tools-managers-vote-on-the-top-prospects/
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 10:30 am : link
Yesterday-@RumblePoniesBB

Ramirez 0-3, BB, 2 k's
Clifford 1-3, BB, 2 k's
Moreno 6 innings 6 hits 4 runs 1 walk 2 k's

.@BKCyclones

Morabito 1-4, BB,SB (39), K
Suero 1-3, BB, K
Reimer 1-5
Tong 6 innings 6 hits 3 runs 3 walks 5 k's (have to figure this was one of his final starts of the season)
Hawkins 3 innings 3 hits 1 run 0 walks 2 k's
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 10:33 am : link
.@stluciemets
Vargas 1-5, 2 k's
Benge 1-3, BB, 2 k's
Baro 0-3, BB, 2 k's
Houck 1-4, 2 k's
Ewing 2-3, HR, BB
Hernandez 0-4, 2 k's
Gomez 1.1 innings 2 hits 4 runs 3 walks 2 k's #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 10:35 am : link
.@SyracuseMets
Acuna 1-4, SB, 2 k's
Baty 1-3, BB
Gilbert 1-4, K
Vasil 3.1 innings 7 hits 7 runs 2 walks 4 k's
Fujinami 2 perfect 5 k's (wow)
Jarvis 2.2 innings 3 hits 2 runs 1 walk 3 k's #Mets
Unlikely  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 11:08 am : link
Sproat is called up in September
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cool clip from cuse  
Eric on Li : 8/18/2024 11:32 am : link
acuna is hitting .267 on the year, which is 30 pts than baty has had at AAA (baty has obviously hit for a lot more power). acuna's ops is closing in on .700 though, which for a guy who adds an extra 32+ bases via steal, would be pretty solid. this wasnt a great year for him and the prospect lists have really dinged him, but it's a lot closer to a decent year than it looks on the surface. he is sitting on 30 xbh right now in 108 games, so that's close to a 45 xbh pace before accounting for his steals.


Syracuse Mets
@SyracuseMets
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2m
- Luisangel Acuña lines a sharp single into centerfield.
- Acuña steals his way into scoring position.
- Drew Gilbert drives him in.

✨ FUUUUTUUUURE ✨
https://x.com/SyracuseMets/status/1825192314370916395 - ( New Window )
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 1:35 pm : link
Yikes. Kevin Parada is 5/43 in August? I somehow missed that #Mets

Joander Suarez has allowed 2 ER over his last 24 innings pitched dropping his era froom 4.85 to 3.92 in the process
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 1:39 pm : link
Acuna and Baty both 0-1 K, Gilbert 1-1, Megill 1 perfect 3 k's, FB up to 96 #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 1:48 pm : link
Ryan Clifford 2-2 with a solo HR, his 14th and his first since July 19th. August has not been kind to Clifford as his HR was his first extra base hit of the month #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 1:54 pm : link
Yikes. Something in the water in Bing? Ryan Clifford, Kevin Parada and Alex Ramirez are a combined 24/145 in August with 3 extra-base hits #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 1:55 pm : link
Brett Baty with a 411 foot 2-run homer, 110.7 mph EV #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 2:03 pm : link
Troesser goes 3.2 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 2 k's, the run scored on a 2b allowed by Ryan Ammons who came on in relief #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 2:07 pm : link
Suarez 4 innings 2 hits 2 runs 0 walks 4 k's. 110 k's vs. 29 walks on the year #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2024 2:22 pm : link
Suarez allows a HR (his second of the game) but strikes out the next 3 in the 5th. 5 innings 3 hits 3 runs 0 walks 7 k's #Mets
Jett  
GF1080 : 8/21/2024 9:27 am : link
Beginning a rehab assignment today with St. Lucie.
Jett  
GF1080 : 8/21/2024 1:48 pm : link
Singles and steals second in first AB.
Sproat  
GF1080 : 8/22/2024 8:37 am : link
Got roughed up last night. 6 ER over five innings. Gave up 3 HR and 9 hits. No strikeouts.
RE: Sproat  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2024 8:45 am : link
In comment 16583535 GF1080 said:
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Got roughed up last night. 6 ER over five innings. Gave up 3 HR and 9 hits. No strikeouts.


seems like he hit a wall when he got promoted to SYR, is this 3 bad starts in a row in SYR?

Hope he's not injured.



Dan did I see you say Suarez is a FA after the year?  
bhill410 : 8/22/2024 8:47 am : link
Why would they not be able to move him to 40 man?
RE: RE: Sproat  
GF1080 : 8/22/2024 9:08 am : link
In comment 16583541 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16583535 GF1080 said:


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Got roughed up last night. 6 ER over five innings. Gave up 3 HR and 9 hits. No strikeouts.



seems like he hit a wall when he got promoted to SYR, is this 3 bad starts in a row in SYR?

Hope he's not injured.




2 terrible starts out of 3. He's at 100 IP and last year at Florida had 106.
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