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Daniel Jones 'Absolutely' Believes He's One of NFLs Best QBs

EddieNYG : 8/3/2024 10:22 am
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No one else believes it. The recently-released Madden Ratings don’t even have him among the top 32 quarterbacks in the NFL. Daniel Jones of the New York Giants, though, “absolutely” believes he is one of the league’s top quarterbacks.

That’s what Jones told Tyler Dunne of the fantastic subscription site, Go Long, during a 1-on-1 sit down this week at Giants training camp.

“I’ve done it, and I’ve played at a really high level and I understand I need to play consistently at that level, but I think we got the guys and we’ve got the makeup of the team for us all to play at a really high level, including me,” Jones told Dunne. “I know I can.”



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I hope he proves most of us wrong  
uconngiant : 8/3/2024 6:30 pm : link
I hope he has a good year as it means the Giants would make the playoffs.

Now I know some hope he bombs and the Giants don't do well as I have read on her.
RE: I hope he proves most of us wrong  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/3/2024 6:39 pm : link
In comment 16567673 uconngiant said:
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I hope he has a good year as it means the Giants would make the playoffs.

Now I know some hope he bombs and the Giants don't do well as I have read on her.


Get off with this shit about fans hoping he 'bombs'. This is such a ludicrous statement. 99.99999999% of Giant fans want him to succeed because, as you stated, if he has a good year, the Giants likely have a good year.

I'm one of his biggest critics, but I'll gladly eat crow if he lights it up this fall.
He is clearly one of the best QBs  
nygiantfan : 8/3/2024 9:40 pm : link
Just not one of the NFL best QBs.

High school?
Good. Prove it.  
John in No Cal : 8/3/2024 10:03 pm : link
LFG!
RE: Look...this story will write itself this year  
JFIB : 8/3/2024 11:47 pm : link
In comment 16567348 George from PA said:
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It seems the OL will be good enough for an NFL QB to function.

I think that still remains to be seen. We all thought there would an improved Neal at RT with Eluemunor at Guard. JMS has missed most of camp and now he’s injured. We may not have even a sub par swing tackle so, I’m not so sure this line will be noticeable better.


Is this real life?  
allstarjim : 8/4/2024 12:05 am : link
Jordan Love, with 3 years in the NFL, who wasn't a starter until last year, put up a 32-11 TD-INT passing line, with 4,159 passing yards, adding 4 rushing TDs and another 247 yards on the ground.

DJ, in his best year, with 5 seasons under his belt, hasn't approached those offensive numbers, not even close. His best year he accounted for about 3900 total yards passing and rushing with 22 TDs combined. Sometimes I just can't.
RE: RE: I hope he proves most of us wrong  
speedywheels : 8/4/2024 12:08 am : link
In comment 16567675 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16567673 uconngiant said:


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I hope he has a good year as it means the Giants would make the playoffs.

Now I know some hope he bombs and the Giants don't do well as I have read on her.



Get off with this shit about fans hoping he 'bombs'. This is such a ludicrous statement. 99.99999999% of Giant fans want him to succeed because, as you stated, if he has a good year, the Giants likely have a good year.

I'm one of his biggest critics, but I'll gladly eat crow if he lights it up this fall.


That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.

RE: RE: RE: I hope he proves most of us wrong  
Go Terps : 8/4/2024 12:24 am : link
In comment 16567800 speedywheels said:
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That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.


Let's say that's true. Why do you think those five posters hate Jones? His personality is as inoffensive as they come, so why do you think those five posters hate him?

Could it be because they want to see the Giants win games, and Jones's level of play correlates well to losing?

You might not care about the results in the field, but some of us actually like it when the Giants win.
Tend to believe they don't hate the player or person  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/4/2024 12:42 am : link
they hate that he's still here.
Last time a NY Giants QB was asked a dumbass question like this  
David B. : 8/4/2024 2:24 am : link
And was taken to task for his reply, he responded with his best season.

Be nice if that happened again.
Good for him...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/4/2024 7:16 am : link
...ball out or flame out!

Just keep it interesting.
RE: Jones haters have now come up with the Mac Jones  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/4/2024 7:23 am : link
In comment 16567383 WillieYoung said:
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argument to pretend 2022 never happened. Vikings did win 13 games. Danial did have more passing yards in Minnesota in the playoffs than either Jared Goff or Aaron Rodgers did in the regular season. Jones was number 1 in the NFL in passer rating on third and 7 or longer. But 2022 never happened.

Your side of this argument never seems willing to follow logical consistency.

Bringing up another example of something that DID happen is NEVER an argument to suggest that another instance did NOT happen.

It's an argument to point out that BOTH instances happened, and provide context therein.

Let me know if you need help with any of those words.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I hope he proves most of us wrong  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 9:05 am : link
In comment 16567804 Go Terps said:
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That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.




Let's say that's true. Why do you think those five posters hate Jones? His personality is as inoffensive as they come, so why do you think those five posters hate him?

Could it be because they want to see the Giants win games, and Jones's level of play correlates well to losing?

You might not care about the results in the field, but some of us actually like it when the Giants win.


Because the posters are obsessed of being proven right rather than admit they are wrong.

Or they threaten to leave the site for good and come back to gloat.
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BigBlueShock : 8/4/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16567827 JT039 said:
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In comment 16567800 speedywheels said:


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That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.




Let's say that's true. Why do you think those five posters hate Jones? His personality is as inoffensive as they come, so why do you think those five posters hate him?

Could it be because they want to see the Giants win games, and Jones's level of play correlates well to losing?

You might not care about the results in the field, but some of us actually like it when the Giants win.



Because the posters are obsessed of being proven right rather than admit they are wrong.

Or they threaten to leave the site for good and come back to gloat.

In your mind, these posters that you speak of what were they wrong about, exactly?
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nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16567827 JT039 said:
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In comment 16567800 speedywheels said:


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That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.




Let's say that's true. Why do you think those five posters hate Jones? His personality is as inoffensive as they come, so why do you think those five posters hate him?

Could it be because they want to see the Giants win games, and Jones's level of play correlates well to losing?

You might not care about the results in the field, but some of us actually like it when the Giants win.



Because the posters are obsessed of being proven right rather than admit they are wrong.

Or they threaten to leave the site for good and come back to gloat.


They came back to the site to gloat about being wrong?

Explain that one JT039.
RE: Is this real life?  
bw in dc : 8/4/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16567798 allstarjim said:
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Jordan Love, with 3 years in the NFL, who wasn't a starter until last year, put up a 32-11 TD-INT passing line, with 4,159 passing yards, adding 4 rushing TDs and another 247 yards on the ground.



Love also didn't have a WR1, no TE1, no RB1, RBBC, a revamped OL, and the pressure of following a legend.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2024 11:18 am : link
Daniel Jones has thrown 40 TDs since the '19 season, including two postseason games.
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JT039 : 8/4/2024 11:18 am : link
In comment 16567848 nygiantfan said:
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They came back to the site to gloat about being wrong?

Explain that one JT039.


Ummm it’s pretty simple. Terps said he was leaving the site for good but came back after jones sucked against Seattle to gloat and has been a stain since.

There’s absolutely no doubt he rather see Jones suck than him winning the SB MVP.
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Go Terps : 8/4/2024 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16567941 JT039 said:
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In comment 16567827 JT039 said:



They came back to the site to gloat about being wrong?

Explain that one JT039.



Ummm it’s pretty simple. Terps said he was leaving the site for good but came back after jones sucked against Seattle to gloat and has been a stain since.

There’s absolutely no doubt he rather see Jones suck than him winning the SB MVP.


Slight correction - I'd rather the Giants finally admit that Jones sucks instead of wasting time wishing for something impossible to happen.

You brought a lot to this thread.
More than you ever do…  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 12:03 pm : link
Jones sucks
Mara is racist

Blah blah blah blah. Same shit, different day.
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nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16567941 JT039 said:
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In comment 16567848 nygiantfan said:


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In comment 16567827 JT039 said:



They came back to the site to gloat about being wrong?

Explain that one JT039.



Ummm it’s pretty simple. Terps said he was leaving the site for good but came back after jones sucked against Seattle to gloat and has been a stain since.

There’s absolutely no doubt he rather see Jones suck than him winning the SB MVP.


What were these posters wrong about?
RE: RE: RE: I hope he proves most of us wrong  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16567800 speedywheels said:
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I hope he has a good year as it means the Giants would make the playoffs.

Now I know some hope he bombs and the Giants don't do well as I have read on her.



Get off with this shit about fans hoping he 'bombs'. This is such a ludicrous statement. 99.99999999% of Giant fans want him to succeed because, as you stated, if he has a good year, the Giants likely have a good year.

I'm one of his biggest critics, but I'll gladly eat crow if he lights it up this fall.



That’s bullshit. I can think of at least 5 posters who hope he shits the bed every game and NYG lose as many games as possible. They hate him that much.


Nygiantfan

I was referring to this post because speedy is absolutely correct. Posters want Jones to suck so they can admit they are right rather than be wrong.

Terps has openly admitted he rather see the giants lose every game than see Jones make the playoffs.
Posters don't want Jones to suck. They just realize he basically has  
nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 12:32 pm : link
and don't care to witness it any longer for the team they follow. It's not an unreasonable view.

 
christian : 8/4/2024 12:35 pm : link
I'm a pretty big fan of my position. I think Jones isn't very good and won't ever compete for a championship.

Now if I'm right, I give myself a high five for being logical. I've reviewed the evidence and made a reasoned guess on what will happen.

If I'm wrong, I get to enjoy the Giants winning the same as anyone. And I don't even have to embarrass myself afterwards and start a thread along the line of that "I'm happier Go Terps was wrong than I am the Giants won."

You guys should all come to my side. You win no matter what.
RE: Posters don't want Jones to suck. They just realize he basically has  
bw in dc : 8/4/2024 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16567998 nygiantfan said:
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and don't care to witness it any longer for the team they follow. It's not an unreasonable view.


Five years is a lot of data, even when you adjust for the missed time with injuries.

I have said it before - I'm just sick of watching Jones try to play QB in the NFL. It's exhausting.

Jones is one of the luckiest players in NFL history with the patience and money an NFL organization has paid for him.
RE: Posters don't want Jones to suck. They just realize he basically has  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16567998 nygiantfan said:
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and don't care to witness it any longer for the team they follow. It's not an unreasonable view.


Yes. I don’t get how some posters can’t compute this. It isn’t trigonometry (which I sucked at).
RE: Posters don't want Jones to suck. They just realize he basically has  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16567998 nygiantfan said:
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and don't care to witness it any longer for the team they follow. It's not an unreasonable view.


Posters have literally said that they hoped that Jones sucked word for words so you’re wrong.
RE: RE: Posters don't want Jones to suck. They just realize he basically has  
nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16568053 JT039 said:
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and don't care to witness it any longer for the team they follow. It's not an unreasonable view.




Posters have literally said that they hoped that Jones sucked word for words so you’re wrong.


Even if so, you aren't following what I wrote.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2024 1:44 pm : link
I don’t want Jones to suck this season, but I would put money on it happening. And I hope I’m wrong.
You literally just said “Posters don’t want Jones to suck”  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 2:03 pm : link
lol.

And I am telling you that there are some that do. Case close.
RE: …  
bw in dc : 8/4/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16568068 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t want Jones to suck this season, but I would put money on it happening. And I hope I’m wrong.


You have to be very specific with your wording because the Receipts Rabble will be prepared to pounce...
RE: You literally just said “Posters don’t want Jones to suck”  
nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16568078 JT039 said:
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lol.

And I am telling you that there are some that do. Case close.


And DJ says he's one of the best NFL QBs. So maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read.
 
christian : 8/4/2024 2:54 pm : link
It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity
RE: RE: You literally just said “Posters don’t want Jones to suck”  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 2:55 pm : link
In comment 16568087 nygiantfan said:
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lol.

And I am telling you that there are some that do. Case close.



And DJ says he's one of the best NFL QBs. So maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read.


When it comes to your posting, trust me I don’t.
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Go Terps : 8/4/2024 3:14 pm : link
In comment 16568105 christian said:
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It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity


Now rank those scenarios in order of likelihood of occurrence.
...  
christian : 8/4/2024 3:36 pm : link
In comment 16568119 Go Terps said:
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It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity

Now rank those scenarios in order of likelihood of occurrence.

Yup, unfortunately it's the inverse.
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JT039 : 8/4/2024 3:39 pm : link
In comment 16568133 christian said:
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It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity

Now rank those scenarios in order of likelihood of occurrence.


Yup, unfortunately it's the inverse.


You forgot one..

4) Jones has a strong season and leads us to playoffs. Bombs in 2025… haha
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christian : 8/4/2024 3:42 pm : link
That's a sentence, not a prediction.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/4/2024 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16568119 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16568105 christian said:


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It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity



Now rank those scenarios in order of likelihood of occurrence.


3, 2, 1.

3 is a nightmare scenario, as that’s all they’ll need to justify bringing him back for a seventh fucking year.
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nygiantfan : 8/4/2024 4:09 pm : link
In comment 16568136 JT039 said:
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In comment 16568119 Go Terps said:


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It's borderline loco to me some people don't see:

1) Best outcome Jones has a strong season
2) 2nd best he bombs
3) 3rd best he lingers on at sub-mediocrity

Now rank those scenarios in order of likelihood of occurrence.


Yup, unfortunately it's the inverse.



You forgot one..

4) Jones has a strong season and leads us to playoffs. Bombs in 2025… haha


The stores in the NY metro area would run out of Kleenex.
I hope he sucks  
Jerry in_DC : 8/4/2024 7:19 pm : link
There are 2 options: 1) he plays like he usually does; 2) he sucks.

If he plays like he usually does, that was enough to get him $40M per year because our owner has a crush on him. It will be enough to keep him in his bizarrely secure position in 25 and possibly renegotiate, which will allow him to keep sucking the life out of the franchise through 27.

If he sucks, we have a chance to unshackle ourselves.
For balance  
mittenedman : 8/4/2024 8:15 pm : link
The 3rd scenario: He's more productive now that he doesn't have a cast of JAGs as his supporting cast.

Hurts sure didn't look very good before Brown and Smith got there (even though he still had an OL). Now everyone's thinking all those squats he did made him MVP calibre.
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santacruzom : 8/4/2024 8:52 pm : link
In comment 16568086 bw in dc said:
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I don’t want Jones to suck this season, but I would put money on it happening. And I hope I’m wrong.



You have to be very specific with your wording because the Receipts Rabble will be prepared to pounce...


Yeah but they can't be trusted to read receipts properly.
RE: For balance  
santacruzom : 8/4/2024 8:55 pm : link
In comment 16568284 mittenedman said:
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The 3rd scenario: He's more productive now that he doesn't have a cast of JAGs as his supporting cast.

Hurts sure didn't look very good before Brown and Smith got there (even though he still had an OL). Now everyone's thinking all those squats he did made him MVP calibre.


But it appears very likely that Hurts is just better overall at playing QB than Jones is.
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Go Terps : 8/4/2024 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16568301 santacruzom said:
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I don’t want Jones to suck this season, but I would put money on it happening. And I hope I’m wrong.



You have to be very specific with your wording because the Receipts Rabble will be prepared to pounce...



Yeah but they can't be trusted to read receipts properly.


No kidding. The amount of incorrect claims I've had attributed to me by these mouth breathers...I can only imagine to other posters as well.
What claims  
JT039 : 8/4/2024 10:04 pm : link
Have been misrepresented by others? Not like you would ever own up to being wrong.

Are you seriously going to say you never once said you rather Jones suck than the giants be good and make the playoffs? Really?
RE: RE: For balance  
mittenedman : 8/5/2024 12:35 pm : link
In comment 16568302 santacruzom said:
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The 3rd scenario: He's more productive now that he doesn't have a cast of JAGs as his supporting cast.

Hurts sure didn't look very good before Brown and Smith got there (even though he still had an OL). Now everyone's thinking all those squats he did made him MVP calibre.



But it appears very likely that Hurts is just better overall at playing QB than Jones is.


Did you watch him before Smith & Brown got there? He was God awful.

Either way, just pointing out there are 3 scenarios that could happen. The poster only mentioned 2 in his “analysis”.
 
christian : 8/5/2024 12:49 pm : link
Hurts was a 2nd round rookie and threw 150 passes in 2020. Smith was drafted in 2021, and the Eagles were a top 12 offense in Hurt's first full year as a starter. Hurts was 3100 16/9 passing and with 784 and 10 TDs rushing on a playoff team.

What year was he God awful?
RE: I hope he sucks  
bw in dc : 8/5/2024 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16568257 Jerry in_DC said:
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There are 2 options: 1) he plays like he usually does; 2) he sucks.

If he plays like he usually does, that was enough to get him $40M per year because our owner has a crush on him. It will be enough to keep him in his bizarrely secure position in 25 and possibly renegotiate, which will allow him to keep sucking the life out of the franchise through 27.

If he sucks, we have a chance to unshackle ourselves.


Don't ever change, man. This was a beauty and gave me a great laugh... ;)
Madden Rating  
TyreeHelmet : 8/5/2024 4:47 pm : link
71 OVR for Jones....ouch.
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