That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Cowherd and his ilk take contrarian points to drive viewers/listeners. Saying Jones is unfairly criticized is a contrarian point of view outside the Giants fan base.
Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
I see you're familiar with his work.
In case anyone was curious, the combined 2025 cap hits for the three QBs old Colin used in his comparison:
Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
I see you're familiar with his work.
In case anyone was curious, the combined 2025 cap hits for the three QBs old Colin used in his comparison:
Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
Well just going by the chart you posted, they aren't. Not far off, but Jones is clearly the best of the three even if the margin of difference isn't large.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
No one has gotten more mileage out of a playoff win than Daniel Jones.
But he's in his 6th season and making 40 million a year. Sympathy or empathy goes out the window with that.
X infinity.
I find the sympathy card played on this board for Jones beyond annoying. Someone wrote yesterday we should admire Jones for how much he has been through since he's been here. I wanted to remind the poster that it's not like Jones is jumping out of a Higgins boat to fight on Omaha Beach.
He's a lottery draft choice on a big second contract that his team out-negotiated Schoen on beautifully.
Just more proof how low expectations continue to be around here for poor Daniel Jones.
Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
Well just going by the chart you posted, they aren't. Not far off, but Jones is clearly the best of the three even if the margin of difference isn't large.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
Your interpretation of the numbers is interesting.
Also, the thread is about Jones, and I didn't start it.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
And yet neither has ever played behind a line as bad as Jones, especially last year, or with receivers as bad as Jones, much less both. I wish someone would point out the QB who would be top 10 in his situation. Mahomes stunk in the SB against the Bucs when two of his starting OL were out, yet the guys playing in front of him still had more experience than the guys the Giants were playing for games 2 thru 10 last year.
Jones ain't a star. But he gets blamed for a whole lot that he can't control.
RE: RE: The endurance of the pro and anti DJ camps
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
And yet neither has ever played behind a line as bad as Jones, especially last year, or with receivers as bad as Jones, much less both. I wish someone would point out the QB who would be top 10 in his situation. Mahomes stunk in the SB against the Bucs when two of his starting OL were out, yet the guys playing in front of him still had more experience than the guys the Giants were playing for games 2 thru 10 last year.
Jones ain't a star. But he gets blamed for a whole lot that he can't control.
Well it looks like the OL is going to be a problem again, so the 2024 excuse will be locked and loaded to bring Jones back in 2025.
RE: RE: RE: The endurance of the pro and anti DJ camps
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The truth can be hard to accept
Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
Well just going by the chart you posted, they aren't. Not far off, but Jones is clearly the best of the three even if the margin of difference isn't large.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
Your interpretation of the numbers is interesting.
Also, the thread is about Jones, and I didn't start it.
Not my interpretation, it is quite clear, if also quite close. Did you look at them? Like a nickel vs 4 pennies. Clearly the nickel is worth more, just not by much.
This thread it is fine, which is why I addressed it in this thread. I'm talking about all the others. Just move on man and I don't disagree with you on Jones, just tired of it. We have less redundant conversations with Halloween decorations at the hallmark store.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
Maybe Darnold shouldn't be, Trubinsky tho is just terrible
RE: RE: RE: RE: The endurance of the pro and anti DJ camps
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
Has looked good the past couple of days. He’s gaining confidence, and getting his timing back too. The effect of an improved OL and Nabers.
The reality for the NFL is there are two ways to win. Elite QB, or elite team around good enough QB. Jones will never be an elite option, but he can be “good enough”. I don’t see too much of a difference between DJ and guys like Goff and Purdy, who played for an NFC title last year.
Even going back over the years - look at some of the guys who have won divisions and/or made the playoffs in the NFC. Case Keenum, Nick Foles, Geno Smith, Trubisky…
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
Prescription-strength copium in the form of denial, huh? If Terps isn't here to remind you that DJ is a liability, DJ will magically cease to actually BE a liability?
Why not wish for the actual problems of the Giants to disappear instead of trying to get rid of a fellow fan who actually sees the missteps as they're happening?
but I still think Jones will be very good with the right players around him.
We fixed the WRs. If we got the line even close to right, I expect a much better year from Jones than many of you.
I have no issue with this POV, but I'm curious how you'd define "very good." Would you put some numbers (or even loose ranges) against that descriptor?
Fields was traded by the team thar drafted him, Jones was reupped at $160M. Pay no attention to Cowturd, he's just trying to stir shit up.
All that tells me is that the Steelers are a more well-run organization than the Giants. And the results on the field bear that out as well.
Nevermind, brain fart on my end with Fields going TO the Steelers instead of FROM the Steelers.
Still, I'm not sure you can validate Jones by the decisions of a front office that may have simply made a massive mistake (which we've seen no shortage of from them over the past decade).
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
75 TDs, 40 INTs. Find my a benched QB with that ratio. I'll wait.... oh and for fun, make sure that benched QB has a playoff win.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
You’re basing this off fans and media. Both are wrong quite often. Also, even if jones is THAT bad it’s been the most overstated over analyzed qb situation going. It’s bullshit and you suck it up and regurgitate it daily.
Anyone saying jones is worse than Dave brown needs to reevaluate things.
Fields was traded by the team thar drafted him, Jones was reupped at $160M. Pay no attention to Cowturd, he's just trying to stir shit up.
Or hedging in case Jones is good this year.
He's killed Jones in the past. And basically suggested he's one of the worst QBs in the league.
Cowherd can backpedal with the best of them.
Total phony.
You guys do this shit all the time where you ignore context. I don’t remember fields having the best season of his life coupled with a playoff winning season. Fiends didn’t fucking do that so geee u think they played a part in the bears dealing him this offseason as also, for fucks sake doesn’t it matter just a little little bit that the bears were picking first in a draft that housed a can’t miss borderline transcendent qb talent that they were more than happy to pick???? Or no, context matters not in the land of the argumentative. Just say he Audis and 6 years and offer up nothing more the same tired critiques and blame game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The endurance of the pro and anti DJ camps
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
75 TDs, 40 INTs. Find my a benched QB with that ratio. I'll wait.... oh and for fun, make sure that benched QB has a playoff win.
Just so we're clear, you're adding the rushing TDs to his passing TDs and using that as the ratio vs. interceptions (can you throw an interception on a rushing TD?), but NOT including fumbles? Did I interpret that correctly?
Jones continues to get ripped in the press because he's still a starting QB in a major media market. Its an opinion that most other QBs wouldve been on their 2nd or 3rd team by now, but its not hard to support.
I will also add that when it comes to overall football acumen GT is among the best BBI has. He's also a fatalistic realist, has an encyclopedic knowledge of the last decades failures, and is (rightfully, imo) critical of ownership. That ruffles feathers. Additionally hes got a bit of a stubborn streak and has no problem going back and forth with the mob. That means at certain times of the year, for instance in camp when we see a surge of hope with the dawning of a new season, he typically ends up in a lot of arguments that he's typically right about.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
Daniel Jones was signed to a $40M/yr contract extension as is the unquestioned starter on his team going into his 6th year.
Their success as NFL QBs is comparable, but their situations are completely different.
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
But he's in his 6th season and making 40 million a year. Sympathy or empathy goes out the window with that.
But he's in his 6th season and making 40 million a year. Sympathy or empathy goes out the window with that.
Right. This is true too. I think Jones is a piñata though more than others.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Cowherd and his ilk take contrarian points to drive viewers/listeners. Saying Jones is unfairly criticized is a contrarian point of view outside the Giants fan base.
Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
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Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
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Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
I see you're familiar with his work.
In case anyone was curious, the combined 2025 cap hits for the three QBs old Colin used in his comparison:
$7.942 million
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Daniel Jones is better than Zach Wilson, Kenny Pickett and Justin Fields - all of whom are now on their 2nd NFL team, unlikely to start, and do not carry a $47 million cap hit in 2025.
Typically worthless stuff from Cowherd.
Let me guess, he used an absolute reach of an analogy to make his point too?
I see you're familiar with his work.
In case anyone was curious, the combined 2025 cap hits for the three QBs old Colin used in his comparison:
$7.942 million
2024 cap hits
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Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
But he's in his 6th season and making 40 million a year. Sympathy or empathy goes out the window with that.
X infinity.
I find the sympathy card played on this board for Jones beyond annoying. Someone wrote yesterday we should admire Jones for how much he has been through since he's been here. I wanted to remind the poster that it's not like Jones is jumping out of a Higgins boat to fight on Omaha Beach.
He's a lottery draft choice on a big second contract that his team out-negotiated Schoen on beautifully.
Just more proof how low expectations continue to be around here for poor Daniel Jones.
We fixed the WRs. If we got the line even close to right, I expect a much better year from Jones than many of you.
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Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
Well just going by the chart you posted, they aren't. Not far off, but Jones is clearly the best of the three even if the margin of difference isn't large.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
Your interpretation of the numbers is interesting.
Also, the thread is about Jones, and I didn't start it.
We fixed the WRs. If we got the line even close to right, I expect a much better year from Jones than many of you.
Ask not what Daniel Jones can do for NYG, but what NYG can do for Daniel Jones... ;)
I do agree the table is set for Jones to succeed if the WRs continue to evolve and OL is the right mix of players.
Which brings me back to expectations. If you believe in the aforementioned, it's time - once again - for Jones to deliver.
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
You mean the "Is Nabers a bust?" refrain.
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
And yet neither has ever played behind a line as bad as Jones, especially last year, or with receivers as bad as Jones, much less both. I wish someone would point out the QB who would be top 10 in his situation. Mahomes stunk in the SB against the Bucs when two of his starting OL were out, yet the guys playing in front of him still had more experience than the guys the Giants were playing for games 2 thru 10 last year.
Jones ain't a star. But he gets blamed for a whole lot that he can't control.
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There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
And yet neither has ever played behind a line as bad as Jones, especially last year, or with receivers as bad as Jones, much less both. I wish someone would point out the QB who would be top 10 in his situation. Mahomes stunk in the SB against the Bucs when two of his starting OL were out, yet the guys playing in front of him still had more experience than the guys the Giants were playing for games 2 thru 10 last year.
Jones ain't a star. But he gets blamed for a whole lot that he can't control.
Well it looks like the OL is going to be a problem again, so the 2024 excuse will be locked and loaded to bring Jones back in 2025.
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There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
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Trubisky - Never has a QB been so overrated.
Darnold - well he sucked from the get go.
I agree, they both stink. And they're as good as Jones.
Well just going by the chart you posted, they aren't. Not far off, but Jones is clearly the best of the three even if the margin of difference isn't large.
I don't think there are many here that will argue with you about Jones having been good. He hasn't been. But you tend to talk about nothing else and it is exhausting because it takes over every conversation. Making conversation here annoying at best and impossible at worst. So find a new topic, we all already know how you feel on this one. Your continued antics only force more people to defend Jones.
Now maybe you like your schtick and it is just a big game to you. But it drags down all conversation on this board.
We get it, Jones is bad, you think Jones is bad. Can you just stop talking about him at all at this point? The only thing worse than the last several years of Giants football is people like you making the entire conversation about the team about one player. So we can't really enjoy the games much and people like you have made it unenjoyable to even talk about the team. Just stop it, it's old, it's tired, it's overdone and it's annoying. I'll stipulate that you are right....now move on please. Nothing you say here will change what the Giants do with Daniel Jones.
Your interpretation of the numbers is interesting.
Also, the thread is about Jones, and I didn't start it.
This thread it is fine, which is why I addressed it in this thread. I'm talking about all the others. Just move on man and I don't disagree with you on Jones, just tired of it. We have less redundant conversations with Halloween decorations at the hallmark store.
Press the button to see what GoTerps says next!
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
But it's the truth. The closest QBs you'll find to Jones statistically are Trubisky and Darnold, and they are each on their fourth team.
Maybe Darnold shouldn't be, Trubinsky tho is just terrible
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There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
They went places... Tommy's Tavern & Tap!
It is so nauseating that people coddle Jones like an infant. And it starts at the top of the organization.
The reality for the NFL is there are two ways to win. Elite QB, or elite team around good enough QB. Jones will never be an elite option, but he can be “good enough”. I don’t see too much of a difference between DJ and guys like Goff and Purdy, who played for an NFC title last year.
Even going back over the years - look at some of the guys who have won divisions and/or made the playoffs in the NFC. Case Keenum, Nick Foles, Geno Smith, Trubisky…
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
Prescription-strength copium in the form of denial, huh? If Terps isn't here to remind you that DJ is a liability, DJ will magically cease to actually BE a liability?
Why not wish for the actual problems of the Giants to disappear instead of trying to get rid of a fellow fan who actually sees the missteps as they're happening?
We fixed the WRs. If we got the line even close to right, I expect a much better year from Jones than many of you.
I have no issue with this POV, but I'm curious how you'd define "very good." Would you put some numbers (or even loose ranges) against that descriptor?
All that tells me is that the Steelers are a more well-run organization than the Giants. And the results on the field bear that out as well.
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Fields was traded by the team thar drafted him, Jones was reupped at $160M. Pay no attention to Cowturd, he's just trying to stir shit up.
All that tells me is that the Steelers are a more well-run organization than the Giants. And the results on the field bear that out as well.
Nevermind, brain fart on my end with Fields going TO the Steelers instead of FROM the Steelers.
Still, I'm not sure you can validate Jones by the decisions of a front office that may have simply made a massive mistake (which we've seen no shortage of from them over the past decade).
Or hedging in case Jones is good this year.
He's killed Jones in the past. And basically suggested he's one of the worst QBs in the league.
Cowherd can backpedal with the best of them.
Total phony.
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
75 TDs, 40 INTs. Find my a benched QB with that ratio. I'll wait.... oh and for fun, make sure that benched QB has a playoff win.
But he's in his 6th season and making 40 million a year. Sympathy or empathy goes out the window with that.
By the end of this season there will be wide receivers making $40 mil per year...
You’re basing this off fans and media. Both are wrong quite often. Also, even if jones is THAT bad it’s been the most overstated over analyzed qb situation going. It’s bullshit and you suck it up and regurgitate it daily.
Anyone saying jones is worse than Dave brown needs to reevaluate things.
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Fields was traded by the team thar drafted him, Jones was reupped at $160M. Pay no attention to Cowturd, he's just trying to stir shit up.
Or hedging in case Jones is good this year.
He's killed Jones in the past. And basically suggested he's one of the worst QBs in the league.
Cowherd can backpedal with the best of them.
Total phony.
You guys do this shit all the time where you ignore context. I don’t remember fields having the best season of his life coupled with a playoff winning season. Fiends didn’t fucking do that so geee u think they played a part in the bears dealing him this offseason as also, for fucks sake doesn’t it matter just a little little bit that the bears were picking first in a draft that housed a can’t miss borderline transcendent qb talent that they were more than happy to pick???? Or no, context matters not in the land of the argumentative. Just say he Audis and 6 years and offer up nothing more the same tired critiques and blame game.
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is remarkable.
There's not much else to talk about (that's going to end up mattering) besides the QB, the front office, and ownership. The rest is window dressing.
Yeah that’s why I don’t, it’s a boring conversation now. As an outsider looking in, reading these posts is hilarious. Just a complete waste of time and I’m convinced those that still take part just do it to piss the other side off.
This is a boring organization going nowhere. The situation really stinks.
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That's because no QB as bad as Jones gets as many opportunities to get ripped as he does. Players of Jones's quality are on their fourth team as backups.
I honestly cannot wait for you to disappear from this forum in 2024 like you did in 2022.
75 TDs, 40 INTs. Find my a benched QB with that ratio. I'll wait.... oh and for fun, make sure that benched QB has a playoff win.
Just so we're clear, you're adding the rushing TDs to his passing TDs and using that as the ratio vs. interceptions (can you throw an interception on a rushing TD?), but NOT including fumbles? Did I interpret that correctly?
What purpose do you serve here?
Daniel Jones was signed to a $40M/yr contract extension as is the unquestioned starter on his team going into his 6th year.
Their success as NFL QBs is comparable, but their situations are completely different.
Daniel Jones and Trevor Lawrence are comparable.
Justin Fields hasn't won anything in the pros.
I will also add that when it comes to overall football acumen GT is among the best BBI has. He's also a fatalistic realist, has an encyclopedic knowledge of the last decades failures, and is (rightfully, imo) critical of ownership. That ruffles feathers. Additionally hes got a bit of a stubborn streak and has no problem going back and forth with the mob. That means at certain times of the year, for instance in camp when we see a surge of hope with the dawning of a new season, he typically ends up in a lot of arguments that he's typically right about.