and the play of the RB's, especially Gray and Turbo.. Both looked really good. Gray had a few explosive plays, and Turbo looks like a fast bowling ball. He also ran out the clock with his running.
Johnson was also a stud, the guy just looked too good for the rest of the backups around him (on both teams)
oline, but they looked really good. Mayfield knocked the snot out of a few people.
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
oline, but they looked really good. Mayfield knocked the snot out of a few people.
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
Mayfield was a 2021 3rd rd pick. Maybe some untapped potential still there?
oline, but they looked really good. Mayfield knocked the snot out of a few people.
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
Coaching matters. A lot. Bricillo knows what he’s doing.
tracy and turbo looked legitimately exciting.
dyontae johnson, whitley, rogers, chatman, muasau all flashed.
devito is going to be qb2.
No he isn’t.
since 2021 drew lock has gone 1-4 while throwing 5 tds and 5 ints in his 5 starts (10 total games).
devito was 3-3 in 6 starts last year while throwing 8 tds and 3 ints (9 total games). he's also got the advantage of being in the 2nd year in a complicated system.
drew's spot on the depth chart is the opposite of his last name.
Jordan Raanan
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The Giants seem confident QB Drew Lock (hip) will be fine. Joe Schoen was optimistic on the broadcast. Brian Daboll didn’t seem overly concerned, aside from saying he’s “sore.”
RE: RE: Ezedeu and McKethan both look like cut candidates
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
Matt Citak
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RB Eric Gray said tonight’s performance was to “show who Eric Gray is.” Gray said he feels more comfortable being in Year 2 in the system.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito. he can keep devloping into a QB2 and save us 10-12m cap savings over the next 2 years.
but there’s a lot to be optimistic about. This team has a lot of young talent and is a much better roster than some folks think. Looking forward to development this year.
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
that this was just a blatant glorified scrimmage? The whole game was very vanilla on both sides. That said, it was good to see the performance of the depth players. Coaching and execution allowed the players to play to their strengths. Looks like there is some talent there.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
If you listened tonight, Banks and Simms fully expect 3 QBs because of all the QB injuries last year. They felt Schoen and Dabs aren't going to take a chance on losing him.
Point taken, but it's definitely a compounding problem. The initial problem is he's no good at football.
I initially thought durability was the reason they moved on from Taylor, but per Hard Knocks it was money.
Jets offered $7 mill, Giants $5 mill. I thought it was mentioned he was pissed that DeVito kept starting after he cleared is health.
IMHO, good riddance. Always hurt. Missed too many short passes by spiking at open WRs feet. I liked his deep shots, but that was it.
For a 13 yr vet, he blew the Buffalo game. Think there was another one he had a bad brainfart in.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
If you listened tonight, Banks and Simms fully expect 3 QBs because of all the QB injuries last year. They felt Schoen and Dabs aren't going to take a chance on losing him.
i expect 3 qbs through at least midseason but salary shouldnt impact the depth chart. there's a reason lock was paid a lot less than a bunch of other backups this offseason, inclduing Tyrod who cant even get through more than a few games at a time.
devito continuing to outperform lock would be a good thing all around. if lock is QB 3 entering week 10 then they'd have to consider whether or not it's worth carrying him or trying to get an extra day 3 pick. it would be 1 of the last picks of the 7th round so not a big deal either way but having picks is better than not having them.
RE: RE: lock will likely make the roster but if they cut him before week 10
i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
interesting thought but i have no idea how that rule reacts if he gets traded (and i doubt anyone trades an unconditional pick for him). if the contract is active he's probably still a qualifier, meaning no comp pick, and trading him costs more than you get by cutting him.
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Cor'Dale Flott has a quad injury, per Brian Daboll. He would have played tonight if he was not banged up.
Sounds like Giants held Nick McCloud out due to his workload on defense and special teams. Looked like he went through warmups and then was held out as a precaution.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
that this was just a blatant glorified scrimmage? The whole game was very vanilla on both sides. That said, it was good to see the performance of the depth players. Coaching and execution allowed the players to play to their strengths. Looks like there is some talent there.
For almost 30 years, I've called the first preseason game a "glorified scrimmage" in my game previews. I'd be shocked if there was one where I didn't.
Johnson was also a stud, the guy just looked too good for the rest of the backups around him (on both teams)
@PLeonardNYDN
Joe Schoen said during the broadcast that Drew Lock’s hip injury isn’t serious and he could have gone back in if needed
#Giants 14 #Lions 3 in the preseason opener
Gray, Miller and Tracy all ran well tonight. Defense forced three turnovers on downs. Boogie Basham, Dyontae Johnson among those who stood out
Locker room next
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
Mayfield was a 2021 3rd rd pick. Maybe some untapped potential still there?
devito we have control for 3+ years of backup QB vet min salary.
thats 5-6m cap savings over the next 2 seasons.
If the 2nd team line looks coherent, that should mean the 1st team should be vastly improved.
Coaching matters. A lot. Bricillo knows what he’s doing.
Credit Schoen? Bricillo? both?
dyontae johnson, whitley, rogers, chatman, muasau all flashed.
devito is going to be qb2.
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Here judge the team play to play. Honestly the back up line looked so much better….most preseasons they can barley move the ball…
Credit Schoen? Bricillo? both?
Ooops. Obviously replied wrong pot.
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Here judge the team play to play. Honestly the back up line looked so much better….most preseasons they can barley move the ball…
Credit Schoen? Bricillo? both?
Schoen got players and Bricillo can coach them. Maybe a reason to have hope for Evan Neal???
Beats all week said the line looked good.
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Here judge the team play to play. Honestly the back up line looked so much better….most preseasons they can barley move the ball…
Little of both I’d say
Credit Schoen? Bricillo? both?
dyontae johnson, whitley, rogers, chatman, muasau all flashed.
devito is going to be qb2.
No he isn’t.
Let’s fucking go!
@PLeonardNYDN
Joe Schoen said during the broadcast that Drew Lock’s hip injury isn’t serious and he could have gone back in if needed
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
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tracy and turbo looked legitimately exciting.
dyontae johnson, whitley, rogers, chatman, muasau all flashed.
devito is going to be qb2.
No he isn’t.
since 2021 drew lock has gone 1-4 while throwing 5 tds and 5 ints in his 5 starts (10 total games).
devito was 3-3 in 6 starts last year while throwing 8 tds and 3 ints (9 total games). he's also got the advantage of being in the 2nd year in a complicated system.
drew's spot on the depth chart is the opposite of his last name.
@JordanRaanan
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The Giants seem confident QB Drew Lock (hip) will be fine. Joe Schoen was optimistic on the broadcast. Brian Daboll didn’t seem overly concerned, aside from saying he’s “sore.”
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Eric Gray got stronger as camp went on, and it showed up tonight.
@MattCitak
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RB Eric Gray said tonight’s performance was to “show who Eric Gray is.” Gray said he feels more comfortable being in Year 2 in the system.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
agree, lock is making the roster.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito. he can keep devloping into a QB2 and save us 10-12m cap savings over the next 2 years.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
I wouldn't assume anything with these decision makers in place.
Nubin is going to be hard to keep off the field, i saw him throw an OLineman to make aplay in the whole..
Dru Phillips is not your average slot corner, he looks built like a mac truck and not afraid to stick is nose in on running plays..
Dyontae Johnson will be starting next to Okereke before we know it, kid was everywhere and was physical in the running game and has the closing speed
Owens was all over the field when he was in, seemed to be in on every tackle..
Offe sively obviously we know about the WR trio of Nabers, Hyatt and Robinson but Tracy and Gray really showed somethkng
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
I wouldn't assume anything with these decision makers in place.
Same shit different day
But DeVito look much better tonight.
Point taken, but it's definitely a compounding problem. The initial problem is he's no good at football.
I initially thought durability was the reason they moved on from Taylor, but per Hard Knocks it was money.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
If you listened tonight, Banks and Simms fully expect 3 QBs because of all the QB injuries last year. They felt Schoen and Dabs aren't going to take a chance on losing him.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
Point taken, but it's definitely a compounding problem. The initial problem is he's no good at football.
I initially thought durability was the reason they moved on from Taylor, but per Hard Knocks it was money.
Jets offered $7 mill, Giants $5 mill. I thought it was mentioned he was pissed that DeVito kept starting after he cleared is health.
IMHO, good riddance. Always hurt. Missed too many short passes by spiking at open WRs feet. I liked his deep shots, but that was it.
For a 13 yr vet, he blew the Buffalo game. Think there was another one he had a bad brainfart in.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
The team isn’t going to lose someone who looks substantially better over that
If you listened tonight, Banks and Simms fully expect 3 QBs because of all the QB injuries last year. They felt Schoen and Dabs aren't going to take a chance on losing him.
i expect 3 qbs through at least midseason but salary shouldnt impact the depth chart. there's a reason lock was paid a lot less than a bunch of other backups this offseason, inclduing Tyrod who cant even get through more than a few games at a time.
devito continuing to outperform lock would be a good thing all around. if lock is QB 3 entering week 10 then they'd have to consider whether or not it's worth carrying him or trying to get an extra day 3 pick. it would be 1 of the last picks of the 7th round so not a big deal either way but having picks is better than not having them.
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i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
interesting thought but i have no idea how that rule reacts if he gets traded (and i doubt anyone trades an unconditional pick for him). if the contract is active he's probably still a qualifier, meaning no comp pick, and trading him costs more than you get by cutting him.
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
DeVito is an extremely cost controlled backup. He's not lasting on the practice squad.
Hopefully there's some offset language in Lock's deal, and they get some money back if he's cut.
There's also the unorthodox outcome where he's cut and signs to the Giants practice squad.
@art_stapleton
Cor'Dale Flott has a quad injury, per Brian Daboll. He would have played tonight if he was not banged up.
Sounds like Giants held Nick McCloud out due to his workload on defense and special teams. Looked like he went through warmups and then was held out as a precaution.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
For almost 30 years, I've called the first preseason game a "glorified scrimmage" in my game previews. I'd be shocked if there was one where I didn't.