Like this before. Call it what you will but something in the air tonight just feels refreshing. Even this site sort of banded together for the most part.
Art Stapleton
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I assume DT Elijah Chatman did not fly back to team hotel from MetLife, but the undrafted rookie was soaring after the game. Got his first sack, a true hustle play.
I'll have more on Chatman from our 1-on-1 in the coming days. He's got a real opportunity. #Giants100
The original plan nevertheless was to keep Taylor.
DeVito is an extremely cost controlled backup. He's not lasting on the practice squad.
Hopefully there's some offset language in Lock's deal, and they get some money back if he's cut.
There's also the unorthodox outcome where he's cut and signs to the Giants practice squad.
Yes, that is correct, TT was the plan.
They are keeping 3 QBs. Why would you cut Lock and lose $5 mill and then put him on PS at some silly number and pay more.
If Lock gets cut, some team will pick him up and use the Giants contract as the offset.
Like this before. Call it what you will but something in the air tonight just feels refreshing. Even this site sort of banded together for the most part.
knock wood we don't jinx it, but the fact that the oline looked competent is probably why.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Talked briefly to Giants ILB Dyontae Johnson in the locker room as he was headed to the training room. Was an ankle, but Brian Daboll said Johnson was lobbying to get back in there in the fourth quarter. Seems like he was OK.
RE: That - but also some of the plays made on the D side
prorated for however many weeks were left the giants would get that amount credited back against the 2.95m salary they guaranteed him. think that would be about 66k per game under contract elsewhere.
so say they cut him right before week 10 the max upside if he signed right away with a team who already had their bye would be about $600k of credits in 2025 plus a 7th round pick. its a pretty remote possibility but every now and then stuff like that happens.
But I’m not sure how that works from a contract standpoint.
You need 3 QBs, but ideally one is on the PS. Tommy D ain’t making it through waivers unclaimed like last year so it’s either 3 on the 53 are we can cut the vested vet and sign him on the PS.
Eric. Looking good in a glorified scrimmage is no guarantee of success
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
See what a difference a good coach can have?! It's huge.
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
Were you wearing an eye patch? Do you not know his number? Have you fallen and can't get up? Good fucking Christ you half wit, Ezeudu was dominant at LT. Lock stepped BACK in the pocket to a guy he had ridden outside and I'm guessing that's what your barely functioning eyes register as game long success. Big blue may rise, let's hope you don't tomorrow or you lose power so we don't have to read your inane ramblings. Have a good night you nincompoop.
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
Were you wearing an eye patch? Do you not know his number? Have you fallen and can't get up? Good fucking Christ you half wit, Ezeudu was dominant at LT. Lock stepped BACK in the pocket to a guy he had ridden outside and I'm guessing that's what your barely functioning eyes register as game long success. Big blue may rise, let's hope you don't tomorrow or you lose power so we don't have to read your inane ramblings. Have a good night you nincompoop.
I.laughed out loud reading this!
He was bad.
Just got fun got on Twitter and checked the thoughts of many people who cover this team for a living almost all mentioned ezedeu lowlight on the line so yeah not just me. He was categorically bad.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Ezedeu and McKethan both look like cut candidates
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
Were you wearing an eye patch? Do you not know his number? Have you fallen and can't get up? Good fucking Christ you half wit, Ezeudu was dominant at LT. Lock stepped BACK in the pocket to a guy he had ridden outside and I'm guessing that's what your barely functioning eyes register as game long success. Big blue may rise, let's hope you don't tomorrow or you lose power so we don't have to read your inane ramblings. Have a good night you nincompoop.
I.laughed out loud reading this!
He was bad.
Just got fun got on Twitter and checked the thoughts of many people who cover this team for a living almost all mentioned ezedeu lowlight on the line so yeah not just me. He was categorically bad.
1,000 people saying the same stupid thing doesn't make it right. I guess they need to start teaching that in school.
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I have been saying for a while that the real issue with our OL could be coaching. It seems almost impossible to miss on virtually every draft pick and free agent pickup (excl Thomas) in all of these years. There had to be something else. This is a single pre season game of backups, but we shall see.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I have been saying for a while that the real issue with our OL could be coaching. It seems almost impossible to miss on virtually every draft pick and free agent pickup (excl Thomas) in all of these years. There had to be something else. This is a single pre season game of backups, but we shall see.
Agree with you and I have said the same thing. When players leave an org and remarkably do better on the next team it isn't the player most likely. Or when a player like Tyre gets cut, goes to the Eagles for 6 or 8 weeks and comes back noticeably better it is a warning sign.
Been missing from Giants play on both sides of the LOS pretty consistently for over a decade and the root cause of most of the teams issues imv. Some dope on here said it was coach speak but physical play was the foundation of the "Giants Way."
RE: RE: lock will likely make the roster but if they cut him before week 10
i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
Hey 125….who would want him? I didn’t want him and was disappointed we grabbed him to supposedly be our back up (you know I’m a Cutlets fan). Anyhow, teams will cut or place on their PS more promising players than Lock. I doubt NY can pick any up which is a shame. Let’s hope DJ stays healthy so that we can unload Lock after the season and then pick up a much better QB during the off-season to compete.
i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
Hey 125….who would want him? I didn’t want him and was disappointed we grabbed him to supposedly be our back up (you know I’m a Cutlets fan). Anyhow, teams will cut or place on their PS more promising players than Lock. I doubt NY can pick any up which is a shame. Let’s hope DJ stays healthy so that we can unload Lock after the season and then pick up a much better QB during the off-season to compete.
Simple answer is both the Seahawks and Giants wanted him, so there will be others.
Any team with a decimated QB room. He is not that great but he is a NFL QB with experience. He is erratic but has also won.
But I’m not sure how that works from a contract standpoint.
You need 3 QBs, but ideally one is on the PS. Tommy D ain’t making it through waivers unclaimed like last year so it’s either 3 on the 53 are we can cut the vested vet and sign him on the PS.
I just never understand this theory. Why does one have to be on the practice squad? How often is the 53rd man on the roster active for a game? Who would you rather risk losing - DeVito, who has shown he can play in a league where QBs are constantly getting hurt, or a fourth tight end? If your third QB has shown he can play you don't put him on the practice squad and make him available to other teams. Especially when you can elevate two guys from the PS each game.
- Eric Gray had exactly 1 run last year where he looked like an NFL running back. Last night the speed and elusiveness he showed made him look like a starter. All RB's looked pretty good, this can be a fun group to watch this season
- Really disappointed we didn't see a Nabers catch, more dissappointed Lock missed him open more than once
- Lock simply looks like he doesn't know the offense as well as DeVito
- While I can see where some of our back ups still are physically limited and lose 1 on 1's, the OL as a whole was more cohesive than we've seen in past years, all groupings were able to run block effectively
- Defense played physical, we saw some good hits from guys like Johnson, Phillips, Nubin and Owens
- Only injury we seem to have to hold our breath on is Ryder Anderson, that isn't bad from a preseason game, I hope he's okay because he has a role in the defense
Dan Duggan
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
Not sure why that is hard to follow.
I think it's because he was saying Flott is first team and McCloud is second team, so that doesn't explain why he didn't play, especially when Banks played and all the 2nd and 3rd teamers play.
Didn’t Bricillio comment early on that he didn’t understand why Johnson had the olinemen take such wide splits. Could it be just something as simple as this in the perceived improvement in line play?
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
Ezeudu got plenty of reps at LT last season and was horrible against starters. He wasn't blocking first team (or, at times even second team) guys last night. Maybe i'm wrong and the new coach can eliminate his deficiencies. But until he shows he can hold his own against starter quality players he should never see the field in a regular season game at tackle barring a tragedy involving the starting and swing tackles.
Many here are wringing their hands over the idea a Jones injury could screw the 2025 cap. Well, Ezeudu at LT increases the odds that might happen.
I saw that comment someone posted about the spacing with the OL. Be nice to see one of the beats follow up on that. I think it has more to do with Daboll's scheme but maybe we get more details regarding it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Ezedeu and McKethan both look like cut candidates
shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
Ezeudu got plenty of reps at LT last season and was horrible against starters. He wasn't blocking first team (or, at times even second team) guys last night. Maybe i'm wrong and the new coach can eliminate his deficiencies. But until he shows he can hold his own against starter quality players he should never see the field in a regular season game at tackle barring a tragedy involving the starting and swing tackles.
Many here are wringing their hands over the idea a Jones injury could screw the 2025 cap. Well, Ezeudu at LT increases the odds that might happen.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito...
You're a real optimist, huh? Is it possible that with a legit OL coach, decent OL, very good WR corps (3 things DJ's never had), that, oh I don't know, maybe Jones leads them to the playoffs and even wins 1 or more playoff games?
Ezeudu did not practice at LT at during camp last year. They threw him out at LT early in 2023 when Thomas went down. He played five games before ending up on IR again.
So if you equate no camp and five games with "plenty", I guess you could have a point.
The biggest positive is seeing the backup offensive line group not have any glaring miscommunications or disasters. That's a reflection of coaching and presumably will carryover to the first group as well.
That sets an atmosphere where the younger players can develop their skills and acclimate to the NFL.
The Giants have had a terrible track record developing young players from at least the time Flaherty left.
Bricillo strikes me as the type of guy who isn't going to bitch about the resources invested in the group, but just focus on getting the best of the guys he has.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I've been thinking for months, Bricillo, Nabers & Burns, make this a very different team.
Significantly better than not just the '23 team, but the '22 that won a road playoff game.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito...
You're a real optimist, huh? Is it possible that with a legit OL coach, decent OL, very good WR corps (3 things DJ's never had), that, oh I don't know, maybe Jones leads them to the playoffs and even wins 1 or more playoff games?
Ezeudu did not practice at LT at during camp last year. They threw him out at LT early in 2023 when Thomas went down. He played five games before ending up on IR again.
So if you equate no camp and five games with "plenty", I guess you could have a point.
Not to mention, he says that Ezeuda should not see the field until he proves that he can do it against staters. Hmmm. Makes it difficult to prove that if he’s not allowed on the field, no?
I'm hopeful we finally have an OL coach. Not that I have a backlog of preseason memories from the last decade+ but I don't remember the Giants being consistent there through multiple units in a preseason game. Also encouraged by some of the reports about the run game in camp/joint practices where they're consistently getting yards. Nothing flashy just consistency.
The biggest positive is seeing the backup offensive line group not have any glaring miscommunications or disasters. That's a reflection of coaching and presumably will carryover to the first group as well.
That sets an atmosphere where the younger players can develop their skills and acclimate to the NFL.
The Giants have had a terrible track record developing young players from at least the time Flaherty left.
Bricillo strikes me as the type of guy who isn't going to bitch about the resources invested in the group, but just focus on getting the best of the guys he has.
It looked like a functional OL throughout the game. Huge difference from last year's preseason.
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I assume DT Elijah Chatman did not fly back to team hotel from MetLife, but the undrafted rookie was soaring after the game. Got his first sack, a true hustle play.
I'll have more on Chatman from our 1-on-1 in the coming days. He's got a real opportunity. #Giants100
DeVito is an extremely cost controlled backup. He's not lasting on the practice squad.
Hopefully there's some offset language in Lock's deal, and they get some money back if he's cut.
There's also the unorthodox outcome where he's cut and signs to the Giants practice squad.
Yes, that is correct, TT was the plan.
They are keeping 3 QBs. Why would you cut Lock and lose $5 mill and then put him on PS at some silly number and pay more.
If Lock gets cut, some team will pick him up and use the Giants contract as the offset.
knock wood we don't jinx it, but the fact that the oline looked competent is probably why.
@art_stapleton
Talked briefly to Giants ILB Dyontae Johnson in the locker room as he was headed to the training room. Was an ankle, but Brian Daboll said Johnson was lobbying to get back in there in the fourth quarter. Seems like he was OK.
Yes, true.
Funny how that works.
so say they cut him right before week 10 the max upside if he signed right away with a team who already had their bye would be about $600k of credits in 2025 plus a 7th round pick. its a pretty remote possibility but every now and then stuff like that happens.
Wow is he going to be a stud.
You need 3 QBs, but ideally one is on the PS. Tommy D ain’t making it through waivers unclaimed like last year so it’s either 3 on the 53 are we can cut the vested vet and sign him on the PS.
but it beats the hell out of looking bad in a glorified scrimmage.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
See what a difference a good coach can have?! It's huge.
Funny how that works.
Oh man why would u say this? You're playing with fire
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two really physical practices and a preseason game in the span of a few days and came out of this game remarkably healthy.
Funny how that works.
Oh man why would u say this? You're playing with fire
Ehh...I'm tired of putting these players in bubble wrap and worrying about injuries. Just play baby.
But if you are not looking to Nabers as your first option on every single play you are doing football wrong.
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
Were you wearing an eye patch? Do you not know his number? Have you fallen and can't get up? Good fucking Christ you half wit, Ezeudu was dominant at LT. Lock stepped BACK in the pocket to a guy he had ridden outside and I'm guessing that's what your barely functioning eyes register as game long success. Big blue may rise, let's hope you don't tomorrow or you lose power so we don't have to read your inane ramblings. Have a good night you nincompoop.
I.laughed out loud reading this!
He was bad.
Just got fun got on Twitter and checked the thoughts of many people who cover this team for a living almost all mentioned ezedeu lowlight on the line so yeah not just me. He was categorically bad.
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In comment 16571955 bigbluewillrise said:
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
Were you wearing an eye patch? Do you not know his number? Have you fallen and can't get up? Good fucking Christ you half wit, Ezeudu was dominant at LT. Lock stepped BACK in the pocket to a guy he had ridden outside and I'm guessing that's what your barely functioning eyes register as game long success. Big blue may rise, let's hope you don't tomorrow or you lose power so we don't have to read your inane ramblings. Have a good night you nincompoop.
I.laughed out loud reading this!
He was bad.
Just got fun got on Twitter and checked the thoughts of many people who cover this team for a living almost all mentioned ezedeu lowlight on the line so yeah not just me. He was categorically bad.
1,000 people saying the same stupid thing doesn't make it right. I guess they need to start teaching that in school.
Ezudu was textbook. Learn something.
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
Not sure why that is hard to follow.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I have been saying for a while that the real issue with our OL could be coaching. It seems almost impossible to miss on virtually every draft pick and free agent pickup (excl Thomas) in all of these years. There had to be something else. This is a single pre season game of backups, but we shall see.
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Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I have been saying for a while that the real issue with our OL could be coaching. It seems almost impossible to miss on virtually every draft pick and free agent pickup (excl Thomas) in all of these years. There had to be something else. This is a single pre season game of backups, but we shall see.
Agree with you and I have said the same thing. When players leave an org and remarkably do better on the next team it isn't the player most likely. Or when a player like Tyre gets cut, goes to the Eagles for 6 or 8 weeks and comes back noticeably better it is a warning sign.
Been missing from Giants play on both sides of the LOS pretty consistently for over a decade and the root cause of most of the teams issues imv. Some dope on here said it was coach speak but physical play was the foundation of the "Giants Way."
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i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
Hey 125….who would want him? I didn’t want him and was disappointed we grabbed him to supposedly be our back up (you know I’m a Cutlets fan). Anyhow, teams will cut or place on their PS more promising players than Lock. I doubt NY can pick any up which is a shame. Let’s hope DJ stays healthy so that we can unload Lock after the season and then pick up a much better QB during the off-season to compete.
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i think they get a comp pick back unless that qualifying period rule changed.
Some team will be short a QB by then. Trade him.
Hey 125….who would want him? I didn’t want him and was disappointed we grabbed him to supposedly be our back up (you know I’m a Cutlets fan). Anyhow, teams will cut or place on their PS more promising players than Lock. I doubt NY can pick any up which is a shame. Let’s hope DJ stays healthy so that we can unload Lock after the season and then pick up a much better QB during the off-season to compete.
Simple answer is both the Seahawks and Giants wanted him, so there will be others.
Any team with a decimated QB room. He is not that great but he is a NFL QB with experience. He is erratic but has also won.
Not much to whine about...
You need 3 QBs, but ideally one is on the PS. Tommy D ain’t making it through waivers unclaimed like last year so it’s either 3 on the 53 are we can cut the vested vet and sign him on the PS.
I just never understand this theory. Why does one have to be on the practice squad? How often is the 53rd man on the roster active for a game? Who would you rather risk losing - DeVito, who has shown he can play in a league where QBs are constantly getting hurt, or a fourth tight end? If your third QB has shown he can play you don't put him on the practice squad and make him available to other teams. Especially when you can elevate two guys from the PS each game.
- Eric Gray had exactly 1 run last year where he looked like an NFL running back. Last night the speed and elusiveness he showed made him look like a starter. All RB's looked pretty good, this can be a fun group to watch this season
- Really disappointed we didn't see a Nabers catch, more dissappointed Lock missed him open more than once
- Lock simply looks like he doesn't know the offense as well as DeVito
- While I can see where some of our back ups still are physically limited and lose 1 on 1's, the OL as a whole was more cohesive than we've seen in past years, all groupings were able to run block effectively
- Defense played physical, we saw some good hits from guys like Johnson, Phillips, Nubin and Owens
- Only injury we seem to have to hold our breath on is Ryder Anderson, that isn't bad from a preseason game, I hope he's okay because he has a role in the defense
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Daboll said Flott’s quad injury is why Nick McCloud was with the first-team defense on Tuesday. Daboll said McCloud isn’t hurt. The explanation for why McCloud didn’t play was hard to follow
Not sure why that is hard to follow.
I think it's because he was saying Flott is first team and McCloud is second team, so that doesn't explain why he didn't play, especially when Banks played and all the 2nd and 3rd teamers play.
BTW- Brian Burns has brought a swagger, a leader by example mentality to this defense that was sorely needed.
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
Ezeudu got plenty of reps at LT last season and was horrible against starters. He wasn't blocking first team (or, at times even second team) guys last night. Maybe i'm wrong and the new coach can eliminate his deficiencies. But until he shows he can hold his own against starter quality players he should never see the field in a regular season game at tackle barring a tragedy involving the starting and swing tackles.
Many here are wringing their hands over the idea a Jones injury could screw the 2025 cap. Well, Ezeudu at LT increases the odds that might happen.
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shame for the regimes draft picks, but there are better players on the roster than them for the big 9 OL spots.
McKethan, probably. Ezeudu? What were you watching?
he looked bad at T. hes not a T.
i think he had a shot at being a good G, but he never settled in at one position and now hes going to get cut or have to be given a roster scholarship.
i watched every snap.
He'd be a decent guard yes. But he can play either as long as he just gets reps at one position.
I think he will be fine when Bricillo gets time with him. No Scholarship. Stupid phrase. Guy was hurt a lot and shown too many positions to ever get one down. Right now he is third best OT on the team and it isn't close.
Ezeudu got plenty of reps at LT last season and was horrible against starters. He wasn't blocking first team (or, at times even second team) guys last night. Maybe i'm wrong and the new coach can eliminate his deficiencies. But until he shows he can hold his own against starter quality players he should never see the field in a regular season game at tackle barring a tragedy involving the starting and swing tackles.
Many here are wringing their hands over the idea a Jones injury could screw the 2025 cap. Well, Ezeudu at LT increases the odds that might happen.
^This.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
agree, lock is making the roster.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito...
You're a real optimist, huh? Is it possible that with a legit OL coach, decent OL, very good WR corps (3 things DJ's never had), that, oh I don't know, maybe Jones leads them to the playoffs and even wins 1 or more playoff games?
Is that really so crazy?
Ezeudu did not practice at LT at during camp last year. They threw him out at LT early in 2023 when Thomas went down. He played five games before ending up on IR again.
So if you equate no camp and five games with "plenty", I guess you could have a point.
That sets an atmosphere where the younger players can develop their skills and acclimate to the NFL.
The Giants have had a terrible track record developing young players from at least the time Flaherty left.
Bricillo strikes me as the type of guy who isn't going to bitch about the resources invested in the group, but just focus on getting the best of the guys he has.
Yes, it’s one meaningless preseason game with and against backups, but our OL looked ready to play, were firing off the ball, got to the 2nd level consistently and mostly controlled the line of scrimmage. Lot of big blocks and some great holes for our guys to run through
Just hope that translates to having the starters ready for week 1
I've been thinking for months, Bricillo, Nabers & Burns, make this a very different team.
Significantly better than not just the '23 team, but the '22 that won a road playoff game.
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is he has $5 mill gtd. Not going anywhere.
But DeVito look much better tonight.
agree, lock is making the roster.
but if/when season is over and DJ injury guarantees come into focus, play devito...
You're a real optimist, huh? Is it possible that with a legit OL coach, decent OL, very good WR corps (3 things DJ's never had), that, oh I don't know, maybe Jones leads them to the playoffs and even wins 1 or more playoff games?
Is that really so crazy?
I'm counting on it
Ezeudu did not practice at LT at during camp last year. They threw him out at LT early in 2023 when Thomas went down. He played five games before ending up on IR again.
So if you equate no camp and five games with "plenty", I guess you could have a point.
Not to mention, he says that Ezeuda should not see the field until he proves that he can do it against staters. Hmmm. Makes it difficult to prove that if he’s not allowed on the field, no?
Yep. No Saquon either. Patrick Mahomes would have struggled too
That sets an atmosphere where the younger players can develop their skills and acclimate to the NFL.
The Giants have had a terrible track record developing young players from at least the time Flaherty left.
Bricillo strikes me as the type of guy who isn't going to bitch about the resources invested in the group, but just focus on getting the best of the guys he has.
It looked like a functional OL throughout the game. Huge difference from last year's preseason.
If devito outplays him and specifically knows the offense better having been in it in 2 years, he could very easily be 3rd qb.