Sunday, August 11, 2024
Offensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:15 a.m.
Defensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:30 a.m.
Head Coach Brian Daboll Available – Approx. 9:45 a.m.
Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.
Players Available – Approx. 12:10 p.m.
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4
being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )
It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.
There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.
@JordanRaanan
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Brian Daboll on Malik Nabers' preseason debut:
"Did good. Ran good routes. Great separation."
Great separation.
@charlottecrrll
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Malik Nabers just walked off field, limping. He took off left shoe #giants
@rydunleavy
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Jason Pinnock INT off Daniel Jones #Giants
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Malik Nabers is down on the sideline. Left shoe off. Getting looked at by trainers
@PLeonardNYDN
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Malik Nabers just took off his left shoe and limped off during practice. Not clear what happened #Giants
Nabers was reaching down and touching the top outside of his left foot. He is now sitting on the ground with his sock off being looked at by three members of the training staff (left side of pic) #giants
@NYDNSports
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In comment 16573828 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16573827 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4
being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )
It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.
There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.
Depends on how that DL is used..
Aaron Donald was short. Geno Atkins was short. John Randle was short. Gary Jarrett for the Falcons is short. Ed Oliver for the Bills is short. Calijah Kancey on the Buccaneers is short. and these are the ones off the top of my head..
Football Evolves.. Shorter, quick, STRONG defensive tackle can be hard to handle because of the lower pad level, burst and power.. They can win the leverage battle on bigger longer athletes..
@art_stapleton
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Malik Nabers being checked out by training staff on sideline. Left field during game final team period. Took left cleat off and was clearly in discomfort.
May have gotten stepped on. Only saw aftermath of the play. #Giants100
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Nabers is standing up and moving very slowly
@art_stapleton
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Nabers is up now. So late in practice, he wasn’t coming back anyway. But something for sure to monitor.
@charlottecrrll
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Malik Nabers just walked off field, limping. He took off left shoe #giants
How do we reverse the curse?
@DDuggan21
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Malik Nabers didn’t go inside after checking out of practice, but he’s clearly limping as practice ends. He was using a band to flex his left ankle/foot while sitting on a chest on the sideline.
What did I say that is wrong?
@art_stapleton
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Nabers spent rest of practice sitting on training box flexing his left foot with an exercise band. Practice is over. Nabers walked to breakdown huddle still in some discomfort, but no rush to get him inside.
@charlottecrrll
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Rookie WR Malik Nabers sat on defensive sidelines watching end of practice with shoe off. Stretching it out a bit and stayed on field as practice ended.
Immediately after post practice huddle broke down, Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll go chat with head trainer Ronnie Barnes
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Neal - justbtimenwhen he felt good enough to do some individuals today....before now, it felt up and down each day ... every player heals differently (ankle surgery)....didnt want this to happen
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Mcloud - always had to climb uphill so proving people wrong was always the case
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#Giants100 Mcloud - everytime i step on the field is a chance to show what he can do with those reps
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc
#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs
@Dan_Salomone
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Evan Neal said he had been feeling good consistently enough to return to practice today. He did individual drills to knock the rust off. He will “embrace” any role that the team needs and knows it’s a “big year” for him.
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#Giants100 Mcloud - will do whatever the coahces ask him to do.....anything he can do to stand out....nabers explosive smart and a competitor
I said that is what I think. I know the way these zone heavy teams run. There is a reason Bowen has good defenses against the run. Part of that is the CBs helping in run support. That has never been his game so he is at a huge disadvantage right off the bat. Second was health. He's is banged up a lot and that may continue if he has to support the run. He also was really drafted as a slot. He is obviously not playing that position anymore. He was also drafted for Wink's system, not Bowen. All these things are working against him. We have also heard him getting torched in practice constantly. I said I am taking that with a grain of salt as there is more that goes into that than just hearing beats comment on it. What I did say is that if that continues to hold true then he isn't adding much to this team. We already know that we are in the market for another top CB so I fully expect them the draft a CB. So, yes, I stand by my comment that there is a solid chance he doesn't make the team next year. It's up to him. I didn't say this year. But next year he definitely could be off the roster. It isn't that I am giving up on him. I'm just pointing out the current situation.
@JordanRaanan
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Rookie WR Malik Nabers left practice early. The Giants don’t appear overly concerned at this point.
@rydunleavy
Big news day with #Giants:
- Malik Nabers did not finish practice with apparent ankle injury. Limped back to locker room afterwards.
- Daniel Jones likely to play vs. #Texans
- Evan Neal did individuals. Says he will accept whatever role (backup, OG) is good for the team. "Not owed anything."
- Drew Lock did not practice.
- Greg Van Roten's first team reps as RG1.
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc
#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs
Feels like the first 2 years were solid? Do they not let him watch the film?
@giantswfan
#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc
#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs
Him and I have a different meaning of ‘solid’.
My first thought, exactly. Could have been foot stepped on, too.
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John Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.
We're getting the band back together.
Too bad its only a lousy cover band at a dive bar in North Jersey
Stone Pony?
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I thought Flott was a top 60 talent coming out of LSU but he declared early and Schoen grabbed him in the 3rd round. He is extremely young and physically underdeveloped for a 3rd year player. Just disagreeing with you on a small point because I think you’re a very knowledgeable poster.
I said that is what I think. I know the way these zone heavy teams run. There is a reason Bowen has good defenses against the run. Part of that is the CBs helping in run support. That has never been his game so he is at a huge disadvantage right off the bat. Second was health. He's is banged up a lot and that may continue if he has to support the run. He also was really drafted as a slot. He is obviously not playing that position anymore. He was also drafted for Wink's system, not Bowen. All these things are working against him. We have also heard him getting torched in practice constantly. I said I am taking that with a grain of salt as there is more that goes into that than just hearing beats comment on it. What I did say is that if that continues to hold true then he isn't adding much to this team. We already know that we are in the market for another top CB so I fully expect them the draft a CB. So, yes, I stand by my comment that there is a solid chance he doesn't make the team next year. It's up to him. I didn't say this year. But next year he definitely could be off the roster. It isn't that I am giving up on him. I'm just pointing out the current situation.
Not an unusual take at all. I can absolutely see that happening. Thought he was starting to pick things up during the scrimmage as the week went on. Outside different from inside.
The coverages I think he will get. But you are right, if he does not tackle well, it will not be tolerated. The other CB seem to be able to tackle.
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Practice recap ✔️
https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )
@Giants
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Practice recap ✔️ https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )
Biggest take from this was 5 batted passes in one practice. That's a huge number.
Jim Burt. Short, stout, strong, and could control the line.
Burt was insanely strong.
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
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GiantsWFAN
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
It was Owens; Belton too?
lol, I thought it was Nubin
lol, I thought it was Nubin
It was Nubin, you're correct. Owens knocked the snot out of a rookie receiver and then made the tackle on RB.
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
It was Owens; Belton too?
Owens knocked the wide receiver on his butt.
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Practice recap ✔️ https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )
Biggest take from this was 5 batted passes in one practice. That's a huge number.
Only 1 by a lineman - Ojulari. The rest seem like PDs
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GiantsWFAN
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
It was Owens; Belton too?
Owens knocked the wide receiver on his butt.
No, if you watch the interview, it's the play I talked about with Nubin. Dottino got it wrong.
Touchdowns & Takeaways: Jason Pinnock notches another INT - ( New Window )
Practice Report (8/11): View from the sideline - ( New Window )
@DDuggan21
Notes from today's practice:
• The good from the offense: A deep TD pass from Daniel Jones to a then-healthy Malik Nabers running a post that split safeties Jason Pinnock and Dane Belton. A deep TD pass from Jones to Jalin Hyatt on a fade route against Deonte Banks.
The bad from the offense: Everything else. It was one of the sloppiest practices of camp. Jones threw a pass into a crowd over the middle that was intercepted by Jason Pinnock (third INT of camp). A forced pass to Nabers on a curl was nearly intercepted by Bobby Okereke.
Some of the misses from Jones were way off target. He had Darius Slayton running wide open in the back of the end zone in a red-zone period and the throw wasn't close. And it wasn't even a day with a ton of downfield passes. Devin Singletary led the starting offense with four catches.
Jones fumbled a shotgun snap while trying to run a QB draw on the offense's last rep of practice. Just not a sharp day at all.
• There was a lot of rotating with the center/right guard spots. Greg Van Roten started at C with Aaron Stinnie at RG. In the middle of some periods, Austin Schlottmann would come in at C and Van Roten would shift to RG. In other periods, Schlottmann would come in at C and Stinnie would stay at RG.
John Michael Schmitz took some reps at C in a walk-through install period. Can see where things are headed with Van Roten eventually displacing Stinnie at RG.
• TE Theo Johnson looked like a rookie today. Had multiple passes fall incomplete that hit his hands. A mix of drops and inability to catch inaccurate passes.
• It was equally shaky for Tommy DeVito pulling double duty as the QB for the second and third teams. Like Jones, some misses that were way off the mark.
• It's surprising to see Andrew Thomas give up a sack in practice because it never happened the past few years. But Brian Burns beat him twice today. One was on a screen, but Burns was on Jones so fast he likely would have blown up the play in a game.
• Tre Hawkins got some first-team reps at outside CB with Nick McCloud shifting into the Dime LB spot at times. As noted during practice, Tre Herndon was the first-team slot corner with Dru Phillips apparently getting a day off.
• Injury updates beyond Nabers: LB Dyontae Johnson (ankle) and S Elijah Riley (concussion) weren't spotted. QB Drew Lock (hip), CB Cor'Dale Flott (quad), S Gervarrius Owens (knee), LB Carter Coughlin (lower body) and Jalen Mills (NFI) worked on the side. WR Dennis Houston watched practice with his right hand in a cast.
In addition to Schmitz and Evan Neal, TE Lawrence Cager (hamstring) and OLB Tomon Fox (hamstring) returned after missing two weeks each. Fox would have had a sack of DeVito in the last team period.
Jim Burt.
Also Tim Krumrie of the Bengals.
That’s an interesting post.
Flott enrolled in an LSU program with a tradition of producing top NFL CBs, saw extensive playing time immediately on joining the Tigers, was starting as a thin, very young 19 year old sophomore and has flashed with the Giants. If he hadn’t made the perhaps rash choice to declare after his sophomore season, he would have likely been a 2nd rounder the season after. I know 2nd rounders bust all the time but Flott isn’t some JAG.
Let’s keep discussing this as the season goes on. I don’t have my mind made up. And I do realize the front office and coaches were talking about the 2nd CB being a need, so Flott has a lot to prove. But he’s an interesting prospect and is still very young.
Sad to see the summer of footie come to a close, been fun.