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New York Giants Training Camp Updates - August 11, 2024

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 8:13 am

Sunday, August 11, 2024

Offensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:15 a.m.

Defensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:30 a.m.

Head Coach Brian Daboll Available – Approx. 9:45 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.

Players Available – Approx. 12:10 p.m.

the interviews  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 8:13 am : link
with the position coaches are usually gold.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 8:17 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Random note from the preseason opener that I couldn’t see in practice due to the guardian caps: Bobby Okereke (in warmups), Darius Muasau and Darian Beavers wore the green dots as the defensive play caller.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:15 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants RB coach Thomas - tracy was definitive and the riom made a good first impression vs lions...but says he expected it because he likes the room....open competition behind singletary - all three helped themselves vs detroit

#Giants RB coach Thomas - the season will dictate how much the team runs the ball...singletary has proven he can carry a load
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:16 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants OL coach Bricillo - please with how guys are working and communicating
.....good group in the room
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:18 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants OL coach Bricillo - would like to have the five set but if you can figure out your top 7 or 8, it is good...adding van roten was a plus
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:19 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants OL coach Bricillo - ezeudu taken reps at OT and OG...want to get a good evaluation of him at tackle...you build him up by doing things daily..
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:19 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants OL coach Bricillo - expects JMS "to be ready to go" wk 1 vs minny
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:21 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants OL coach Bricillo - van roten and elumunor played well together last year....and van roten knew the buffalo system, which is similar here, too

#Giants OL coach Bricillo - pleased, not satisfied vs lions....showed toughness and was step in right direction....reality is you cant get comfortable
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:24 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants WR coach Groh - nabers wants to dominate...he is innvested off the field to prepare...impressed with his approach...will be rookie moments but think he is up to that challenge....did nice job with route adjustments vs lions - he read the coverages
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:25 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants WR coach Groh - nabers next step is to get more comfotable in the system....coaches thrown a lot at him...can see he is starting to just react
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:26 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants WR coach Groh - WR room was transformed...says this is fastest group he has ever been around....roster cut is a good problem to have this year
I guess Paul Dottino  
Jolly Blue Giant : 8/11/2024 9:26 am : link
is the only one awake. No follow ups on the JMS situation?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:27 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants QB coach Tierney - been aggressive but not reckless in camp
RE: I guess Paul Dottino  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:28 am : link
In comment 16573810 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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is the only one awake. No follow ups on the JMS situation?


Only one tweeting right now. I've have transcript and videos up later.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:28 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants QB coach Tierney - lock handles his job well....done all he's asked
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:28 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants QB coach Tierney - in the game, he still is the one with the video with the QBs on the bench
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:30 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants QB coach Tierney - jones is getting used to the speed of this WR room...improved as camp went on and you keep building off it

#Giants QB coach Tierney - devito has handled things well....experience last yr really helped him...done everything right and works hard
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:31 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants QB coach Tierney - once devito has gotten some reps with a certain situation, he does not make the same mistake twice
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:33 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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DB coach Jerome Henderson said Cor’Dale Flott (quad) will be out this week. Big opportunity for Nick McCloud to make a push for the CB2 job.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:33 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DB coach Henderson - mclpud always has a chip and believes he is a starter at every position everybday...makes him a great teammate...ultra competitive and can play many spots
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:34 am : link
In comment 16573818 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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DB coach Jerome Henderson said Cor’Dale Flott (quad) will be out this week. Big opportunity for Nick McCloud to make a push for the CB2 job.


Flott is another guy seems constantly nicked up.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:34 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DB coach Henderson - flott (quad) was starting to play his best and then got hurt...hope to have him back soon.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:35 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DB coach Henderson - like what phillips is doing in the slot.....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:37 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DB coach Henderson - banks still taking steps and maturing...working toward toward being a top shelf defender
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:39 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:40 am : link
In comment 16573827 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short


Wow... interesting about his strength.
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robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2024 9:40 am : link
In comment 16573822 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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DB coach Jerome Henderson said Cor’Dale Flott (quad) will be out this week. Big opportunity for Nick McCloud to make a push for the CB2 job.



Flott is another guy seems constantly nicked up.


Yeah, he doesn't seem long for this team. He's not big/tough enough to play inside so they moved him outside. With this zone heavy scheme, he's going to have to help support the run and that isn't his game. I know we see a lot of camp reports of him getting beat but it is just camp. If he truly can't cover either then I don't know that he'll be on this team after this year.
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Jolly Blue Giant : 8/11/2024 9:42 am : link
In comment 16573827 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short

he is listed as 6'0" for anyone interested
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:42 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - has never had a team draft a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him over 22 yrs in nfl...inherited some, but never was part of drafting one.....so you take guys and make them better than anyone thought they could be - always been his challenge
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:43 am : link
In comment 16573832 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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In comment 16573827 Eric from BBI said:


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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short


he is listed as 6'0" for anyone interested


They may have rounded up. ;)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:43 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - burns has all the skills and he has a very strong desire to be better ...could be as great as any edge rusher he has worked with...when you have three dawgs up front, you are ahead of 90% of the league
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:47 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - lock is sore....will miss a few days...will run some on the side.
....not adding a third QB right now...think he can ready for vikings
I hope the reporters  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:47 am : link
asked Patterson about the other DLs... if not, that was a major fail on their part.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:48 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants are not adding another QB for now. Drew Lock will probably miss at least 3 practices, Daboll indicated
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:48 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said Drew Lock won’t practice the next few days (at least), but they’re not adding another QB (as of now).
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:48 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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DB coach Jerome Henderson said Cor’Dale Flott (quad) will be out this week. Big opportunity for Nick McCloud to make a push for the CB2 job.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:50 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Brian Daboll says the Giants are NOT adding another quarterback as of this time, although Drew Lock is not expected to practice this week. He said they will prepare TE Tyree Jackson to be a 3rd QB if needed against the Texans
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:50 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Evan Neal is coming off PUP today #Giants100
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:51 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Evan Neal is coming off PUP and will do individuals today, Brian Daboll says #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:51 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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TE Tyree Jackson is taking some QB snaps. Former college QB #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:51 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - JMS will be lomited today...neal coming off pup today...cager and stoll and fox return ...
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robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2024 9:51 am : link
In comment 16573848 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Brian Daboll says the Giants are NOT adding another quarterback as of this time, although Drew Lock is not expected to practice this week. He said they will prepare TE Tyree Jackson to be a 3rd QB if needed against the Texans


Well, this is extremely interesting
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:52 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said John Michael Schmitz will return to practice today and Evan Neal is coming off PUP. Both players will be ramped up, just doing indy today.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:52 am : link
John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:52 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Evan Neal is coming off PUP. John Michael Schmitz will be eased back in starting today. Lawrence Cager and Jack Stoll are also coming back.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:53 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - will discuss at end of the week about how to handle possible starters' snaps vs houston
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:53 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Daniel Jones likely will play vs #Texans, Daboll said
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:53 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll said the plan is for Daniel Jones to play in this week’s preseason game.
Owens hurt now  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:54 am : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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LB Dyontae Johnson is dealing with an ankle injury and will not practice. S Gervarrius Owens has a knee issue.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:55 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Giants have released CB Kaleb Hayes and signed a LB K.J. Cloyd
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Giants have released CB Kaleb Hayes and signed a LB K.J. Cloyd
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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The Giants released CB Kaleb Hayes and signed LB KJ Cloyd. Cloyd had been with the Vikings as a UDFA and was waived before camp.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:58 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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In addition to Flott and Drew Lock, Daboll said LB Dyontae Johnson (ankle) and S Gervarrius Owens (knee) won’t practice today
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HBart : 8/11/2024 9:58 am : link
In comment 16573836 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - burns has all the skills and he has a very strong desire to be better ...could be as great as any edge rusher he has worked with...when you have three dawgs up front, you are ahead of 90% of the league

Falato was at camp; he said there's no way Chatman is 6'. NTTATWT

Being the strongest guy on a team with Dexter Lawerence .... damn.
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HBart : 8/11/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16573856 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Evan Neal is coming off PUP. John Michael Schmitz will be eased back in starting today. Lawrence Cager and Jack Stoll are also coming back.

Eric, for Giants Info and History, the start of a new era: August 11, 2024. Evan Neal comes off PUP.

:)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:02 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
John Michael Schmitz will return to practice today. Expect him to do individuals and ease his way back in to team drills, but likely not for a day or two.

Expect Greg Van Roten to start getting RG reps with JMS on the way back. #Giants100

Don’t expect Neal back in team drills. He will do individuals and work his way back into team drills. This should not change Giants’ alignment up front with the first team. Jermaine Eluemunor is the RT.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:07 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Dennis Houston is on the sideline with his right hand/wrist in a cast. #Giants100
Could Chatman be our version  
kelly : 8/11/2024 10:11 am : link
Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.
RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
section125 : 8/11/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16573900 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so



Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.


Klecko was quite a bit heavier, wasn't he. He was a monster up front.

Chatman probably a PS candidate.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:27 am : link
Ah, August. When BBIers compare someone most people had never heard of weeks before-in this case, Elijah Chatman-to Joe Kleco, a HOFer.

Gotta love it.
Really interesting commentary from the coaching staff  
cosmicj : 8/11/2024 10:32 am : link
Robbie - Flott is a high level talent and is very young. He is 22. Patience.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:35 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Evan Neal back in action today. GM Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll watching on for a bit
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1822639058046034209 - ( New Window )
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HBart : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16573919 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Ah, August. When BBIers compare someone most people had never heard of weeks before-in this case, Elijah Chatman-to Joe Kleco, a HOFer.

Gotta love it.

Obviously it's a massive leap. Klecko lasted 6 rounds; were BBI around back then anyone saying he'd become an all-time great (or even a starter) would have been ridiculed. Why be a dick about it?
In what round was Klecko  
kelly : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
Drafted in?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
And here’s John Michael Schmitz back out at practice #Giants
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1822640611452731820 - ( New Window )
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Sure, and Daniel Jones could be our Steve Young
HBart.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:37 am : link
I'm just having some fun; it wasn't meant to be malicious.
RE: In what round was Klecko  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16573932 kelly said:
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Drafted in?


6th round.

So?
RE: In what round was Klecko  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:38 am : link
In comment 16573932 kelly said:
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Drafted in?


4th.
RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:39 am : link
In comment 16573940 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Drafted in?



4th.


My bad. I Googled his son Joe.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:40 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Greg Van Roten takes first two reps at C, shifts to RG for next three with Schlottmann coming in at C as planned.
First guard reps for GVR a sign JMS is coming along.
Good to see JMS out there today  
Blue100 : 8/11/2024 10:40 am : link
Just stay healthy
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:44 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Lawrence Cager (hamstring) is back at practice. Just caught a red zone TD from Tommy DeVito.

On the previous play, Tyree Jackson took a clean pop from Tyler Nubin for PBU at the goal line.
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Klaatu : 8/11/2024 10:50 am : link
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John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.




We're getting the band back together.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:53 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Greg Van Roten got his first RG reps today since signing. He started at center during a first-team period and then shifted to RG with Austin Schlottmann coming in at center.

Clearly laying the groundwork for Van Roten to move to RG when Schmitz is back.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:53 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants rotating interior OL. Austin Schlottman and Greg Van Roten at center. Van Roten and Austin Stinnie at RG
RE: RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16573907 section125 said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so



Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.



Klecko was quite a bit heavier, wasn't he. He was a monster up front.

Chatman probably a PS candidate.


Not heavier. Taller. Chatman was 278 at the draft. Klecko was 265. But Klecko was 6-3. Chatman is 5-11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:00 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Not sure what’s up with Dru Phillips. He’s just standing on the side not practicing. Tre Herndon the first team nickel CB.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:00 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Malik Nabers TD in double coverage vs Dane Belton and Jason Pinnock

(No more 11 on 11 video allowed now that practice is closed to public)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:09 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin is one intense dude. Brings the heat, loves being physical. He's closing the gap with Belton. #NYGiants
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
ConsistentGiantFan : 8/11/2024 11:11 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so

Or John Mendenhall?
RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:12 am : link
In comment 16573939 Eric from BBI said:
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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?


Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.
RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16573985 ConsistentGiantFan said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Or John Mendenhall?


Yes! Mendenhall was my thought exactly!
RE: RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:16 am : link
In comment 16573987 k2tampa said:
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In comment 16573932 kelly said:


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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?



Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.


And???
RE: RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
section125 : 8/11/2024 11:19 am : link
In comment 16573988 The Mike said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Or John Mendenhall?



Yes! Mendenhall was my thought exactly!


One of my all time favorites at DT.
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blueblood : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16573828 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short



Wow... interesting about his strength.


Report I found a while back in the Dallas Morning News


Apparentely he was benching 225 in SEVENTH grade.. He can now bench like 500lbs.

His record is 42 reps @ 225

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One offseason, Geralene remembers Elijah coming home after a workout and asking her to grab the keys to the family’s GMC Sierra 1500 truck. Why, she wondered?

They drove it to the parking lot of a nearby church. It was about an acre big, Anthony estimates. Elijah then asked his mom to put it in neutral; he’d handle the rest.

“Are you crazy?” Geralene recalls asking.


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL
Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )
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PatersonPlank : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.





We're getting the band back together.


Too bad its only a lousy cover band at a dive bar in North Jersey
RE: RE: RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?



Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.



And???


Just pointing out where Klecko would have been draft this year for a comp to Chatman. Not offering any opinions.
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Ryan Dunleavy
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Great TD throw to back corner from Daniel Jones to Jalin Hyatt #Giants

Couple big highlights but not a great offensive practice
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section125 : 8/11/2024 11:25 am : link
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starting to wonder if some BBIers ate a lot of paint chips as kids.


He he he....
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k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:28 am : link
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )


It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.

There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.
Mendenhall was a great Giant  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 11:29 am : link
Chatman is also giving me John Randle vibes, arguably the greatest undrafted player in NFL history. Not saying he is Randle, but his strength and speed are off the charts. And the story is similar - undrafted because of his size, not his talent. Chatman may be the most interesting guy to follow in the next two preseason games.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:30 am : link
Jordan Raanan
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Brian Daboll on Malik Nabers' preseason debut:

"Did good. Ran good routes. Great separation."

Great separation.
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Charlotte Carroll
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Malik Nabers just walked off field, limping. He took off left shoe #giants
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Ryan Dunleavy
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Jason Pinnock INT off Daniel Jones #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:39 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Malik Nabers is down on the sideline. Left shoe off. Getting looked at by trainers
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:40 am : link
Pat Leonard
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Malik Nabers just took off his left shoe and limped off during practice. Not clear what happened #Giants

Nabers was reaching down and touching the top outside of his left foot. He is now sitting on the ground with his sock off being looked at by three members of the training staff (left side of pic) #giants
@NYDNSports
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blueblood : 8/11/2024 11:40 am : link
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )



It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.

There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.


Depends on how that DL is used..

Aaron Donald was short. Geno Atkins was short. John Randle was short. Gary Jarrett for the Falcons is short. Ed Oliver for the Bills is short. Calijah Kancey on the Buccaneers is short. and these are the ones off the top of my head..

Football Evolves.. Shorter, quick, STRONG defensive tackle can be hard to handle because of the lower pad level, burst and power.. They can win the leverage battle on bigger longer athletes..
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Art Stapleton
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Malik Nabers being checked out by training staff on sideline. Left field during game final team period. Took left cleat off and was clearly in discomfort.
May have gotten stepped on. Only saw aftermath of the play. #Giants100
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Pat Leonard
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Nabers is standing up and moving very slowly
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:43 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Nabers is up now. So late in practice, he wasn’t coming back anyway. But something for sure to monitor.
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ajr2456 : 8/11/2024 11:50 am : link
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Malik Nabers just walked off field, limping. He took off left shoe #giants


How do we reverse the curse?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:50 am : link
Dan Duggan
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Malik Nabers didn’t go inside after checking out of practice, but he’s clearly limping as practice ends. He was using a band to flex his left ankle/foot while sitting on a chest on the sideline.
RE: Really interesting commentary from the coaching staff  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2024 11:54 am : link
In comment 16573922 cosmicj said:
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Robbie - Flott is a high level talent and is very young. He is 22. Patience.


What did I say that is wrong?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:56 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Nabers spent rest of practice sitting on training box flexing his left foot with an exercise band. Practice is over. Nabers walked to breakdown huddle still in some discomfort, but no rush to get him inside.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:56 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Rookie WR Malik Nabers sat on defensive sidelines watching end of practice with shoe off. Stretching it out a bit and stayed on field as practice ended.

Immediately after post practice huddle broke down, Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll go chat with head trainer Ronnie Barnes
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:57 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 Neal - justbtimenwhen he felt good enough to do some individuals today....before now, it felt up and down each day ... every player heals differently (ankle surgery)....didnt want this to happen
Robbie you said he wasn’t long for the team  
cosmicj : 8/11/2024 11:57 am : link
I thought Flott was a top 60 talent coming out of LSU but he declared early and Schoen grabbed him in the 3rd round. He is extremely young and physically underdeveloped for a 3rd year player. Just disagreeing with you on a small point because I think you’re a very knowledgeable poster.
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 Mcloud - always had to climb uphill so proving people wrong was always the case
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GiantsWFAN
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#Giants100 Mcloud - everytime i step on the field is a chance to show what he can do with those reps
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 12:02 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan

#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc

#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 12:03 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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Evan Neal said he had been feeling good consistently enough to return to practice today. He did individual drills to knock the rust off. He will “embrace” any role that the team needs and knows it’s a “big year” for him.
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#Giants100 Mcloud - will do whatever the coahces ask him to do.....anything he can do to stand out....nabers explosive smart and a competitor
RE: Robbie you said he wasn’t long for the team  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2024 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16574060 cosmicj said:
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I thought Flott was a top 60 talent coming out of LSU but he declared early and Schoen grabbed him in the 3rd round. He is extremely young and physically underdeveloped for a 3rd year player. Just disagreeing with you on a small point because I think you’re a very knowledgeable poster.


I said that is what I think. I know the way these zone heavy teams run. There is a reason Bowen has good defenses against the run. Part of that is the CBs helping in run support. That has never been his game so he is at a huge disadvantage right off the bat. Second was health. He's is banged up a lot and that may continue if he has to support the run. He also was really drafted as a slot. He is obviously not playing that position anymore. He was also drafted for Wink's system, not Bowen. All these things are working against him. We have also heard him getting torched in practice constantly. I said I am taking that with a grain of salt as there is more that goes into that than just hearing beats comment on it. What I did say is that if that continues to hold true then he isn't adding much to this team. We already know that we are in the market for another top CB so I fully expect them the draft a CB. So, yes, I stand by my comment that there is a solid chance he doesn't make the team next year. It's up to him. I didn't say this year. But next year he definitely could be off the roster. It isn't that I am giving up on him. I'm just pointing out the current situation.
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ordan Raanan
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Rookie WR Malik Nabers left practice early. The Giants don’t appear overly concerned at this point.
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Big news day with #Giants:
- Malik Nabers did not finish practice with apparent ankle injury. Limped back to locker room afterwards.
- Daniel Jones likely to play vs. #Texans
- Evan Neal did individuals. Says he will accept whatever role (backup, OG) is good for the team. "Not owed anything."
- Drew Lock did not practice.
- Greg Van Roten's first team reps as RG1.
Using a band on his foot?  
Bill in UT : 8/11/2024 12:20 pm : link
That sounds like a cramp. I don't think even Ronnie Barnes would have him strethcing his foot if there was a chance of a break or a tear or even a strain. Let's hope
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 8/11/2024 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16574069 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan

#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc

#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs


Feels like the first 2 years were solid? Do they not let him watch the film?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16574069 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan

#Giants100 Neal - says focus on what he control....not worried about outside pressure....just knew he would have to overcome the ankle surgery...talks to thomas about the rehab process, etc

#Giants100 Neal - says it is a big year for him.....feels like first two yrs were solid but things happened out of his control and they were not what he wanted them to be..."i need to play better"...play guard? will do whatever the team needs


Him and I have a different meaning of ‘solid’.
RE: Using a band on his foot?  
section125 : 8/11/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16574094 Bill in UT said:
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That sounds like a cramp. I don't think even Ronnie Barnes would have him strethcing his foot if there was a chance of a break or a tear or even a strain. Let's hope


My first thought, exactly. Could have been foot stepped on, too.
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BMac : 8/11/2024 12:33 pm : link
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John Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.





We're getting the band back together.



Too bad its only a lousy cover band at a dive bar in North Jersey


Stone Pony?
RE: RE: Robbie you said he wasn’t long for the team  
section125 : 8/11/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16574087 robbieballs2003 said:
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I thought Flott was a top 60 talent coming out of LSU but he declared early and Schoen grabbed him in the 3rd round. He is extremely young and physically underdeveloped for a 3rd year player. Just disagreeing with you on a small point because I think you’re a very knowledgeable poster.



I said that is what I think. I know the way these zone heavy teams run. There is a reason Bowen has good defenses against the run. Part of that is the CBs helping in run support. That has never been his game so he is at a huge disadvantage right off the bat. Second was health. He's is banged up a lot and that may continue if he has to support the run. He also was really drafted as a slot. He is obviously not playing that position anymore. He was also drafted for Wink's system, not Bowen. All these things are working against him. We have also heard him getting torched in practice constantly. I said I am taking that with a grain of salt as there is more that goes into that than just hearing beats comment on it. What I did say is that if that continues to hold true then he isn't adding much to this team. We already know that we are in the market for another top CB so I fully expect them the draft a CB. So, yes, I stand by my comment that there is a solid chance he doesn't make the team next year. It's up to him. I didn't say this year. But next year he definitely could be off the roster. It isn't that I am giving up on him. I'm just pointing out the current situation.


Not an unusual take at all. I can absolutely see that happening. Thought he was starting to pick things up during the scrimmage as the week went on. Outside different from inside.
The coverages I think he will get. But you are right, if he does not tackle well, it will not be tolerated. The other CB seem to be able to tackle.
Dottino  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 12:48 pm : link
New York Giants
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Practice recap ✔️
https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )
RE: Dottino  
robbieballs2003 : 8/11/2024 1:02 pm : link
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Practice recap ✔️ https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )


Biggest take from this was 5 batted passes in one practice. That's a huge number.
Chapman  
Archer : 8/11/2024 1:06 pm : link
In reading about Chapman I have another comp that is closer to home.
Jim Burt. Short, stout, strong, and could control the line.
Burt was insanely strong.
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ColHowPepper : 8/11/2024 1:11 pm : link
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GiantsWFAN
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort
It was Owens; Belton too?
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Bill in UT : 8/11/2024 1:13 pm : link
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort

It was Owens; Belton too?


lol, I thought it was Nubin
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ColHowPepper : 8/11/2024 1:25 pm : link
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lol, I thought it was Nubin

It was Nubin, you're correct. Owens knocked the snot out of a rookie receiver and then made the tackle on RB.
robbie on Flott  
ColHowPepper : 8/11/2024 1:31 pm : link
I've been unusually (for me, on BBI) vocal on Flott for weeks now. I'm not sure what Cosmic is seeing, but Flott just can't cover. He's long, thin and needs a lot of strides to get to top speed. I've made the analogy that he's not a 100m or 200m guy but more like a 400m guy. More importantly, imo this is, his length is not suited to cover quick, esp. smaller WRs because they simply out-quick him, Flott is not twitchy, he's long; he matches up better with bigger, not as quick WRs. Just as imp., to this point going into season 3, he has not shown himself to be a tough, willing tackler, tends to arm the ball carrier. So, I'm completely in robbie's camp on this.
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k2tampa : 8/11/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16574156 ColHowPepper said:
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort

It was Owens; Belton too?


Owens knocked the wide receiver on his butt.
RE: RE: Dottino  
Reale01 : 8/11/2024 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16574142 robbieballs2003 said:
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New York Giants
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Practice recap ✔️ https://x.com/Giants/status/1822669965008228631 - ( New Window )



Biggest take from this was 5 batted passes in one practice. That's a huge number.


Only 1 by a lineman - Ojulari. The rest seem like PDs
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 1:46 pm : link
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7s....belton played well vs lions and had a really good camp- he and nubin are in a battle....belton knock a lions guard on his butt in the game...nubin is intense and focused and impacts others with his effort

It was Owens; Belton too?



Owens knocked the wide receiver on his butt.


No, if you watch the interview, it's the play I talked about with Nubin. Dottino got it wrong.
Salomone's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 1:49 pm : link
Report
Touchdowns & Takeaways: Jason Pinnock notches another INT - ( New Window )
That Nubin play  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 1:49 pm : link
Is one of the most impressive plays I have ever seen from a rookie safety at the line of scrimmage. Reminiscent of Myron Guyton!
John Schmeelk's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 1:54 pm : link
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Notes from today's practice:

• The good from the offense: A deep TD pass from Daniel Jones to a then-healthy Malik Nabers running a post that split safeties Jason Pinnock and Dane Belton. A deep TD pass from Jones to Jalin Hyatt on a fade route against Deonte Banks.

The bad from the offense: Everything else. It was one of the sloppiest practices of camp. Jones threw a pass into a crowd over the middle that was intercepted by Jason Pinnock (third INT of camp). A forced pass to Nabers on a curl was nearly intercepted by Bobby Okereke.

Some of the misses from Jones were way off target. He had Darius Slayton running wide open in the back of the end zone in a red-zone period and the throw wasn't close. And it wasn't even a day with a ton of downfield passes. Devin Singletary led the starting offense with four catches.

Jones fumbled a shotgun snap while trying to run a QB draw on the offense's last rep of practice. Just not a sharp day at all.

• There was a lot of rotating with the center/right guard spots. Greg Van Roten started at C with Aaron Stinnie at RG. In the middle of some periods, Austin Schlottmann would come in at C and Van Roten would shift to RG. In other periods, Schlottmann would come in at C and Stinnie would stay at RG.

John Michael Schmitz took some reps at C in a walk-through install period. Can see where things are headed with Van Roten eventually displacing Stinnie at RG.

• TE Theo Johnson looked like a rookie today. Had multiple passes fall incomplete that hit his hands. A mix of drops and inability to catch inaccurate passes.

• It was equally shaky for Tommy DeVito pulling double duty as the QB for the second and third teams. Like Jones, some misses that were way off the mark.

• It's surprising to see Andrew Thomas give up a sack in practice because it never happened the past few years. But Brian Burns beat him twice today. One was on a screen, but Burns was on Jones so fast he likely would have blown up the play in a game.

• Tre Hawkins got some first-team reps at outside CB with Nick McCloud shifting into the Dime LB spot at times. As noted during practice, Tre Herndon was the first-team slot corner with Dru Phillips apparently getting a day off.

• Injury updates beyond Nabers: LB Dyontae Johnson (ankle) and S Elijah Riley (concussion) weren't spotted. QB Drew Lock (hip), CB Cor'Dale Flott (quad), S Gervarrius Owens (knee), LB Carter Coughlin (lower body) and Jalen Mills (NFI) worked on the side. WR Dennis Houston watched practice with his right hand in a cast.

In addition to Schmitz and Evan Neal, TE Lawrence Cager (hamstring) and OLB Tomon Fox (hamstring) returned after missing two weeks each. Fox would have had a sack of DeVito in the last team period.
RE: Chapman  
OntheRoad : 8/11/2024 2:47 pm : link
In comment 16574149 Archer said:
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In reading about Chapman I have another comp that is closer to home.
Jim Burt.


Also Tim Krumrie of the Bengals.
RE: robbie on Flott  
cosmicj : 8/11/2024 3:09 pm : link
In comment 16574192 ColHowPepper said:
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I've been unusually (for me, on BBI) vocal on Flott for weeks now. I'm not sure what Cosmic is seeing, but Flott just can't cover. He's long, thin and needs a lot of strides to get to top speed. I've made the analogy that he's not a 100m or 200m guy but more like a 400m guy. More importantly, imo this is, his length is not suited to cover quick, esp. smaller WRs because they simply out-quick him, Flott is not twitchy, he's long; he matches up better with bigger, not as quick WRs. Just as imp., to this point going into season 3, he has not shown himself to be a tough, willing tackler, tends to arm the ball carrier. So, I'm completely in robbie's camp on this.


That’s an interesting post.

Flott enrolled in an LSU program with a tradition of producing top NFL CBs, saw extensive playing time immediately on joining the Tigers, was starting as a thin, very young 19 year old sophomore and has flashed with the Giants. If he hadn’t made the perhaps rash choice to declare after his sophomore season, he would have likely been a 2nd rounder the season after. I know 2nd rounders bust all the time but Flott isn’t some JAG.

Let’s keep discussing this as the season goes on. I don’t have my mind made up. And I do realize the front office and coaches were talking about the 2nd CB being a need, so Flott has a lot to prove. But he’s an interesting prospect and is still very young.
Really hope Theo Johnson pans out  
ajr2456 : 8/11/2024 3:25 pm : link
We’ve been so blah at tight end since Shockey.
cosmicj  
ColHowPepper : 8/11/2024 4:45 pm : link
absolutely, not irrevocably dug into this stance on Flott, just what my eyes have seen last year (not at all suited to the slot corner, not quick in change of direction or quick break off LOS) and camp so far. I'll change when when my eyes tell me to. Hope all good with you.
Sad to see the summer of footie come to a close, been fun.
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