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New York Giants Training Camp Updates - August 11, 2024

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 8:13 am

Sunday, August 11, 2024

Offensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:15 a.m.

Defensive Assistants Available – Approx. 9:30 a.m.

Head Coach Brian Daboll Available – Approx. 9:45 a.m.

Practice – 10:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.

Players Available – Approx. 12:10 p.m.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Giants have released CB Kaleb Hayes and signed a LB K.J. Cloyd
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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The Giants released CB Kaleb Hayes and signed LB KJ Cloyd. Cloyd had been with the Vikings as a UDFA and was waived before camp.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:58 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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In addition to Flott and Drew Lock, Daboll said LB Dyontae Johnson (ankle) and S Gervarrius Owens (knee) won’t practice today
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HBart : 8/11/2024 9:58 am : link
In comment 16573836 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - burns has all the skills and he has a very strong desire to be better ...could be as great as any edge rusher he has worked with...when you have three dawgs up front, you are ahead of 90% of the league

Falato was at camp; he said there's no way Chatman is 6'. NTTATWT

Being the strongest guy on a team with Dexter Lawerence .... damn.
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HBart : 8/11/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16573856 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Daboll said Evan Neal is coming off PUP. John Michael Schmitz will be eased back in starting today. Lawrence Cager and Jack Stoll are also coming back.

Eric, for Giants Info and History, the start of a new era: August 11, 2024. Evan Neal comes off PUP.

:)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:02 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
John Michael Schmitz will return to practice today. Expect him to do individuals and ease his way back in to team drills, but likely not for a day or two.

Expect Greg Van Roten to start getting RG reps with JMS on the way back. #Giants100

Don’t expect Neal back in team drills. He will do individuals and work his way back into team drills. This should not change Giants’ alignment up front with the first team. Jermaine Eluemunor is the RT.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:07 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Dennis Houston is on the sideline with his right hand/wrist in a cast. #Giants100
Could Chatman be our version  
kelly : 8/11/2024 10:11 am : link
Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.
RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
section125 : 8/11/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16573900 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so



Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.


Klecko was quite a bit heavier, wasn't he. He was a monster up front.

Chatman probably a PS candidate.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:27 am : link
Ah, August. When BBIers compare someone most people had never heard of weeks before-in this case, Elijah Chatman-to Joe Kleco, a HOFer.

Gotta love it.
Really interesting commentary from the coaching staff  
cosmicj : 8/11/2024 10:32 am : link
Robbie - Flott is a high level talent and is very young. He is 22. Patience.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:35 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Evan Neal back in action today. GM Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll watching on for a bit
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1822639058046034209 - ( New Window )
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HBart : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16573919 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Ah, August. When BBIers compare someone most people had never heard of weeks before-in this case, Elijah Chatman-to Joe Kleco, a HOFer.

Gotta love it.

Obviously it's a massive leap. Klecko lasted 6 rounds; were BBI around back then anyone saying he'd become an all-time great (or even a starter) would have been ridiculed. Why be a dick about it?
In what round was Klecko  
kelly : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
Drafted in?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
And here’s John Michael Schmitz back out at practice #Giants
https://x.com/charlottecrrll/status/1822640611452731820 - ( New Window )
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Sure, and Daniel Jones could be our Steve Young
HBart.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:37 am : link
I'm just having some fun; it wasn't meant to be malicious.
RE: In what round was Klecko  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16573932 kelly said:
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Drafted in?


6th round.

So?
RE: In what round was Klecko  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:38 am : link
In comment 16573932 kelly said:
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Drafted in?


4th.
RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:39 am : link
In comment 16573940 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Drafted in?



4th.


My bad. I Googled his son Joe.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:40 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Greg Van Roten takes first two reps at C, shifts to RG for next three with Schlottmann coming in at C as planned.
First guard reps for GVR a sign JMS is coming along.
Good to see JMS out there today  
Blue100 : 8/11/2024 10:40 am : link
Just stay healthy
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:44 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Lawrence Cager (hamstring) is back at practice. Just caught a red zone TD from Tommy DeVito.

On the previous play, Tyree Jackson took a clean pop from Tyler Nubin for PBU at the goal line.
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Klaatu : 8/11/2024 10:50 am : link
In comment 16573855 Eric from BBI said:
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John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.




We're getting the band back together.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:53 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Greg Van Roten got his first RG reps today since signing. He started at center during a first-team period and then shifted to RG with Austin Schlottmann coming in at center.

Clearly laying the groundwork for Van Roten to move to RG when Schmitz is back.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 10:53 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants rotating interior OL. Austin Schlottman and Greg Van Roten at center. Van Roten and Austin Stinnie at RG
RE: RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16573907 section125 said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so



Joe Klecko was Defensive Player of the Year.

So no, Chatman is not going to be another Klecko.



Klecko was quite a bit heavier, wasn't he. He was a monster up front.

Chatman probably a PS candidate.


Not heavier. Taller. Chatman was 278 at the draft. Klecko was 265. But Klecko was 6-3. Chatman is 5-11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:00 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Not sure what’s up with Dru Phillips. He’s just standing on the side not practicing. Tre Herndon the first team nickel CB.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:00 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Malik Nabers TD in double coverage vs Dane Belton and Jason Pinnock

(No more 11 on 11 video allowed now that practice is closed to public)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:09 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin is one intense dude. Brings the heat, loves being physical. He's closing the gap with Belton. #NYGiants
RE: Could Chatman be our version  
ConsistentGiantFan : 8/11/2024 11:11 am : link
In comment 16573889 kelly said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so

Or John Mendenhall?
RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:12 am : link
In comment 16573939 Eric from BBI said:
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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?


Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.
RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16573985 ConsistentGiantFan said:
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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Or John Mendenhall?


Yes! Mendenhall was my thought exactly!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:16 am : link
In comment 16573987 k2tampa said:
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In comment 16573939 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 16573932 kelly said:


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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?



Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.


And???
RE: RE: RE: Could Chatman be our version  
section125 : 8/11/2024 11:19 am : link
In comment 16573988 The Mike said:
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In comment 16573889 kelly said:


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Of Joe Klecko?

I hope so


Or John Mendenhall?



Yes! Mendenhall was my thought exactly!


One of my all time favorites at DT.
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blueblood : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16573828 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short



Wow... interesting about his strength.


Report I found a while back in the Dallas Morning News


Apparentely he was benching 225 in SEVENTH grade.. He can now bench like 500lbs.

His record is 42 reps @ 225

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One offseason, Geralene remembers Elijah coming home after a workout and asking her to grab the keys to the family’s GMC Sierra 1500 truck. Why, she wondered?

They drove it to the parking lot of a nearby church. It was about an acre big, Anthony estimates. Elijah then asked his mom to put it in neutral; he’d handle the rest.

“Are you crazy?” Geralene recalls asking.


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL
Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )
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PatersonPlank : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16573958 Klaatu said:
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John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
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Daboll: Evan Neal will be activated off PUP and begin to work back and ramp up. John Michael Schmitz will be back in individual drills today as well.





We're getting the band back together.


Too bad its only a lousy cover band at a dive bar in North Jersey
RE: RE: RE: RE: In what round was Klecko  
k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16573989 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16573939 Eric from BBI said:


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Drafted in?



6th round.

So?



Klecko was the 144th pick, which would have been the 9th pick in the 5th round this year.



And???


Just pointing out where Klecko would have been draft this year for a comp to Chatman. Not offering any opinions.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:23 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Great TD throw to back corner from Daniel Jones to Jalin Hyatt #Giants

Couple big highlights but not a great offensive practice
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section125 : 8/11/2024 11:25 am : link
In comment 16573996 Eric from BBI said:
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starting to wonder if some BBIers ate a lot of paint chips as kids.


He he he....
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k2tampa : 8/11/2024 11:28 am : link
In comment 16573995 blueblood said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )


It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.

There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.
Mendenhall was a great Giant  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 11:29 am : link
Chatman is also giving me John Randle vibes, arguably the greatest undrafted player in NFL history. Not saying he is Randle, but his strength and speed are off the charts. And the story is similar - undrafted because of his size, not his talent. Chatman may be the most interesting guy to follow in the next two preseason games.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:30 am : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Brian Daboll on Malik Nabers' preseason debut:

"Did good. Ran good routes. Great separation."

Great separation.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:37 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Malik Nabers just walked off field, limping. He took off left shoe #giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:38 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Jason Pinnock INT off Daniel Jones #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:39 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Malik Nabers is down on the sideline. Left shoe off. Getting looked at by trainers
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:40 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Malik Nabers just took off his left shoe and limped off during practice. Not clear what happened #Giants

Nabers was reaching down and touching the top outside of his left foot. He is now sitting on the ground with his sock off being looked at by three members of the training staff (left side of pic) #giants
@NYDNSports
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blueblood : 8/11/2024 11:40 am : link
In comment 16574012 k2tampa said:
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GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants DL coach Patterson - chatman is strong powerful and explosive and quick - may be strongest guy on team and lack of height helps him...still has a long way to go but has some great qualities ...at 285, not little - just short4


being short and strong is VERY helpful.. Not saying he is the same player.. but Aaron Donald was not tall.. like 6'1.. it helps staying low.. when you are ALREADY low.. LOL Elijah Chatman Article - ( New Window )



It's helpful for getting low to gain leverage in short yardage runs. It's not helpful for making plays. If it were such an advantage, you'd see lots of short DLs.

There are always exceptions, but the odds are pretty low.


Depends on how that DL is used..

Aaron Donald was short. Geno Atkins was short. John Randle was short. Gary Jarrett for the Falcons is short. Ed Oliver for the Bills is short. Calijah Kancey on the Buccaneers is short. and these are the ones off the top of my head..

Football Evolves.. Shorter, quick, STRONG defensive tackle can be hard to handle because of the lower pad level, burst and power.. They can win the leverage battle on bigger longer athletes..
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:42 am : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Malik Nabers being checked out by training staff on sideline. Left field during game final team period. Took left cleat off and was clearly in discomfort.
May have gotten stepped on. Only saw aftermath of the play. #Giants100
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