this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps
The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
+1
They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level. He's too topsy turvy. Not enough balance to handle speed on the outside.
They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level.
I am trying to wrap my mind around the idea of having to "convince" a player to play a position that the coach is telling you to play. He is under contract and must follow instructions. He is not a superstar who can demand a trade.
The conspiracy theorist in me says that he was brought off the PUP once practices became closed to fans to minimize Neal's exposure to fan criticism and his ill advised reactions to such criticism.
But be that as it may, there is probably nobody on this team that has more upside than Evan Neal at this point. I am not a believer that he can make it at OT, but if he can be competent and allow JE to move to guard, the OL will indeed be something to be hopeful about.
Will be interesting to see how he performs against the Texans and Jets.
this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps
Agree with this, in no way should get the starting tackle spot back. Might be a firable offense.
The OL(s) performance on Thursday was so completely different; the cohesion was night and day. The coaching impact was magnificently stark.
One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.
Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.
Coach Bricillo will be the best judge on where to play him and,
The OL(s) performance on Thursday was so completely different; the cohesion was night and day. The coaching impact was magnificently stark.
One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.
Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.
Would be great to see. This is a put up or shut up year for Neal.
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
I heard the news when I woke up
Evan Neal has come off of the PUP
If he lets his man go by
Eluemunor will get a try
And Neal will be left holding his cup
I have to admit that right now I feel much more comfortable with
this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps
This is a rational take. Don't want to gamble on Neal's short term health and risk having to shuffle everyone again right before or shortly into the season.
At this point I would like to see Neal as the swing tackle
In this video Dr.Kirk Campbell an orthopedic surgeon at NYU says that for the surgery that Neal had the expected recovery time is 4-6 months. He also says that it is not unexpected that Neal is taking longer because of his size and the fact that playing football puts a lot more stress on the ankle than almost anything else someone can do.
If JMS comes back the Giants will have a lot of depth at interior line and can use Neal as the swing tackle. Doctor's opinion - ( New Window )
(Probably not for the season opener), what does the OL look like?
I would assume:
Thomas
Runyan
JMS
Eluemunor
Neal
I hope BRICILLO is not forced by Schoen to start Neal….in order to try not make him look worse than he already looks for drafting 4 very poor to mediocre OL guys: Neal, JMS, Ezeudu, and Mckethan.
am surprised. I thought he would transition to the regular season PUP, but as someone else said, Daboll has been very coy about Neal's status. But as someone else also said, with the new IR rule, Neal could still go on IR and be eligible play later this season.
At this point, he just needs to start practicing. Eluemunor should remain as the starting RT. Neal can be the swing tackle, assuming he is ready by the beginning of the regular season.
I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.
Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.
So you just want to keep him on an injury list until we cut him?
Got it.
Come on Eric, you are better than this. I never said "cut him." Based on his injury history and the Giants trainers/med staff, I worry that he might not be ready.
If he is I hope they keep him as a backup or practice him at guard. I don't see him as a starting tackle.
So we want to move a guy that's struggling at his natural position to a spot he doesn't play? Yeah that makes sense...
Agreed. I know opinions are like assholes but how about people let coaches coach, players play and see where it’s at when the dust settles?
The coaches are the ones getting paid to coach and evaluate so I’m fine letting them do their jobs they’re so obviously way more qualified at than I am to do either.
The conspiracy theorist in me says that he was brought off the PUP once practices became closed to fans to minimize Neal's exposure to fan criticism and his ill advised reactions to such criticism.
But be that as it may, there is probably nobody on this team that has more upside than Evan Neal at this point. I am not a believer that he can make it at OT, but if he can be competent and allow JE to move to guard, the OL will indeed be something to be hopeful about.
Will be interesting to see how he performs against the Texans and Jets.
I had this thought as well. It may not be too far off.
This was last occasion Neal spoke to media, four weeks after he rolled his ankle against the Raiders, and at a point he was attempting rehab.
Moments:
"I stepped out of the womb an offensive tackle." (When asked about playing guard)
"I put a lot of dominant reps on tape; a lot of times they go unnoticed." (When asked if he could be dominant in the NFL)
"To be honest, it hurts." (When asked how his ankle was feeling when he put load on it)
I'm an Evan Neal fan not because of what he's done but because of how important he is going forward. If Eluemunor is playing RT, then someone else is starting in whom I don't have a lot of confidence and who I don't see as the future of this OL.
I can't say I know where he stands on EN long term but I was kind of close to his position, not rooting for him not to come off PUP but letting him work his way back slowly, carefully, taking the time to understand Bricillo's methods, techniques, and cohesion awareness of scheme.
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Dominant college player
Good enough athleticism
Excellent character and work ethic
Often injured, games missed
Several OL coaches
Some real confidence crushing games
He can still put it together
I think he will if - healthy and Bricillo is a good coach for him
How long is he going to be limited to "individual drills"? There isn't a lot of time before the start of the season and he needs to be evaluated at RT ASAP. I am very interested to see what Bricillo can do with him and JMS. If all are healthy, the intended OL of Thomas, Runyon/Eluemunor, JMS, Runyon/Eluemunor, and Neal could be decent under his tutelage.
If Neal and/or JMS can't stay healthy or get up to speed, the immediate depth also appears capable of making this a decent OL. I hope the confidence we have in Bricillo and the early reports from camp/first pre-season action are correct.
Ereck Flowers was #9 and Eli Apple was a #10. Pick your poison.
Also, great news today that JMS and Neal will both be practicing soon. They barely have a month to get JMS ready for the season and get Neal back up to speed and see where he's at.
I can't say I know where he stands on EN long term but I was kind of close to his position, not rooting for him not to come off PUP but letting him work his way back slowly, carefully, taking the time to understand Bricillo's methods, techniques, and cohesion awareness of scheme.
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Yeah, my first concern before Eric and everyone else piled on like I was an idiot asshole is that the Giants training staff has a long history of having players come back too soon. That's primarily why I wasn't sure if this was good or bad news. Buy that doesn't fit the narrative that Giants fans are now stupid or want to see the team fail.
I also think the Giants are better of if Neal practices at OG. I think the starting OL needs as many reps together as possible.
I've wondered if Neal's first two years would've gone differently if he'd been drafted by a team that put him at left tackle instead of right. Some of us are wired such that the difference is negligible (once the reps have been put in), but for others the difference can be much more challenging. For Neal it could be the case that it's just easier for him to maintain his balance when using the left-sided footing as opposed to the right-sided footing at the tackle position.
No reason to have a lot of confidence that Neal will improve
immediately but I can't believe so many here think he has "run out of chances". T
The roster is so much better off if Neal can develop enough to be a reliable Right Tackle. Pretty sure Schoen gets that even though it may not be mainstream opinion here. And I tend to still expect that to happen more than I don't at this point.
I can't say I know where he stands on EN long term but I was kind of close to his position, not rooting for him not to come off PUP but letting him work his way back slowly, carefully, taking the time to understand Bricillo's methods, techniques, and cohesion awareness of scheme.
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Yeah, my first concern before Eric and everyone else piled on like I was an idiot asshole is that the Giants training staff has a long history of having players come back too soon. That's primarily why I wasn't sure if this was good or bad news. Buy that doesn't fit the narrative that Giants fans are now stupid or want to see the team fail.
I also think the Giants are better of if Neal practices at OG. I think the starting OL needs as many reps together as possible.
I assume you mean practices at guard with the second or third team (otherwise the "starting" O line wouldn't be getting reps together). So why can't he practice at tackle with the 2nd and 3rd teams?
But show me a tackle who had a sprained knee, an unspecified ankle injury, and a fractured ankle in his first two years, causing him to miss a bunch of games and play 5 or 6 others hurt who played at an average level.
Not to mention, the questions that have arisen about the quality of coaching.
The Giants are much better off if he plays at a high level at tackle than at guard. Although, I can imagine RBs salivating at running behind a left side of Thomas and Neal.
The Giants shouldn't be criticized for the selection of Evan Neal
I doubt there was a single team in the NFL that didn't have a 1st round grade on him. He was #2 on the Cowboys draft board and history tells us they know a thing or two about OL scouting. Shit happens. I guess the only question I would have is: would the Giants have taken Ekwonu over Neal had both been available? If so, they rolled the dice by selecting Thibodeaux ahead of the OL of their choice (because they feared Dallas trading into the six hole for Thibs and he was the last ER with a 1st round grade on their board). Meanwhile, it's not like Ekwonu has lit the world on fire in his first two years with the Panthers, but he's been asked to play left tackle for them and would've been on the right side with Big Blue.
The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
+1
They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level. He's too topsy turvy. Not enough balance to handle speed on the outside.
If there ever was player who was mishandled worse in d line to see it. He was pretty much forced to play hurt both years and on a broken ankle
Seriously. Let the coach see what he has. Kid started for 4 years in the SEC. The screaming about this player is not based on any rationality. Now may he should move to guard but think it's stupid to demand this. Let's see the kid healthy for 6-10 games under CB?
My heart leaps up when I behold
A Rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began;
So is it now I am a man;
So be it when I shall grow old,
Or let me die!
The Child is father of the man;
And I wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.
You have what it takes, do it. It's time to deliver.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me….especially having to play the best, the fastest, and the smartest Edge rushers on this planet.
So we want to move a guy that's struggling at his natural position to a spot he doesn't play? Yeah that makes sense...
Agreed. I know opinions are like assholes but how about people let coaches coach, players play and see where it’s at when the dust settles?
The coaches are the ones getting paid to coach and evaluate so I’m fine letting them do their jobs they’re so obviously way more qualified at than I am to do either.
Wait. Someone who's okayed a down of organizes football doesn't know more than lifelong coaches?? Insanity. But this place has been that way for a while now. Hysteria and mania over an over
You have what it takes, do it. It's time to deliver.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me.
Sy had his criticisms, but gave Neal a first round grade.
You have what it takes, do it. It's time to deliver.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me.
Sy had his criticisms, but gave Neal a first round grade.
Yeah, this did perplex me….on the one hand, the guy is on the ground too much, bad footwork, off balance…..and then gives him a high rating….go figure!
If Neal wins the job, great. It means the team has gotten better but as of now it should be Elumenors job to lose. We signed a lot of quality IOL so I’d like to keep Elumenor at RT but may the best man win.
I do believe that Neal can be a better G than T. He doesn’t seem to have the natural lateral movement to play outside. Let hope if it doesn’t work at OT he can cross train and try G.
You brought in a coach to get the best out of Neal. They are not going to let him not have the opportunity to be the starting RT. If you believe the coach changed Elumenor for the better why not Neal
Didn’t Elumenor get the RT spot due to an injury of Neal
At this point I don’t see Neal being looked at as a G
Hard to pinpoint the reason Neal has not succeeded thus far
At Alabama he played LT, RT, and G, and was a consensus All American in his junior year. Max Starks, former Steelers LT and currently a football analyst, said to the Daily News, “Evan Neal was my No. 1 prospect in the draft, and I was surprised Jacksonville didn’t take him.”
Was Neal injured in his first year with the Giants, but reluctant to report it? Does he have a vision issue? He wears glasses at times. If Neal is finally fully healthy, we may be surprised by what we see. If, on the other hand, he's ineffective, he will be considered a major miscalculation by Joe Schoen.
Neal hurt his knee, his ankle, and then said something silly. If/when he's healthy the last two years will seem like a distant memory. If he doesn't stay healthy, that'll be that.
know what happened to Giants fans, but it isn't good.
What you are noticing is another example of everything that is wrong with this world... That mentality has manifested in everything... Including sports. In this market, the generation that has been indoctrinated still is going to like sports... I wish they would root for the Jets.
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#Giants100 Daboll - JMS will be lomited today...neal coming off pup today...cager and stoll and fox return ...
I expected JMS to come off today.
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
Uh-oh! We've got a regular William Wordsworth on our hands here!
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
+1
They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level. He's too topsy turvy. Not enough balance to handle speed on the outside.
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They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level.
I am trying to wrap my mind around the idea of having to "convince" a player to play a position that the coach is telling you to play. He is under contract and must follow instructions. He is not a superstar who can demand a trade.
But be that as it may, there is probably nobody on this team that has more upside than Evan Neal at this point. I am not a believer that he can make it at OT, but if he can be competent and allow JE to move to guard, the OL will indeed be something to be hopeful about.
Will be interesting to see how he performs against the Texans and Jets.
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
I couldn't help but do this like Bone Thugs n Harmony -First of the Month.
Agree with this, in no way should get the starting tackle spot back. Might be a firable offense.
One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.
Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.
One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.
Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.
Would be great to see. This is a put up or shut up year for Neal.
He still may start the season on IR :)
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
I heard the news when I woke up
Evan Neal has come off of the PUP
If he lets his man go by
Eluemunor will get a try
And Neal will be left holding his cup
Same. I'm not even comfortable with Neal starting.
This is a rational take. Don't want to gamble on Neal's short term health and risk having to shuffle everyone again right before or shortly into the season.
I'm guessing that this will give the Giants a better look at whether to switch him to Guard or not.
I'm guessing that Neal is still not completely healthy and is still a long way from being prepared technique-wise to play in a regular season game.
If JMS comes back the Giants will have a lot of depth at interior line and can use Neal as the swing tackle.
Doctor's opinion - ( New Window )
Side note: the way Joshua Miles played Thursday, he may have to beat him out as well.
Why would it be bad?
I would assume:
Thomas
Runyan
JMS
Eluemunor
Neal
I would assume:
Thomas
Runyan
JMS
Eluemunor
Neal
I hope BRICILLO is not forced by Schoen to start Neal….in order to try not make him look worse than he already looks for drafting 4 very poor to mediocre OL guys: Neal, JMS, Ezeudu, and Mckethan.
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Why would it be bad?
I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.
Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.
At this point, he just needs to start practicing. Eluemunor should remain as the starting RT. Neal can be the swing tackle, assuming he is ready by the beginning of the regular season.
Still rooting for Neal to succeed long term but let him get coached for a while and build some confidence.
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Why would it be bad?
I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.
Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.
So you just want to keep him on an injury list until we cut him?
Got it.
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Why would it be bad?
I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.
Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.
So you just want to keep him on an injury list until we cut him?
Got it.
Come on Eric, you are better than this. I never said "cut him." Based on his injury history and the Giants trainers/med staff, I worry that he might not be ready.
If he is I hope they keep him as a backup or practice him at guard. I don't see him as a starting tackle.
You're clearly done with him. Don't pretend otherwise.
You're clearly done with him. Don't pretend otherwise.
Done with him as an OT, yes.
(And may the loser continue to improve)
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
You are no Klattu
Agreed. I know opinions are like assholes but how about people let coaches coach, players play and see where it’s at when the dust settles?
The coaches are the ones getting paid to coach and evaluate so I’m fine letting them do their jobs they’re so obviously way more qualified at than I am to do either.
But be that as it may, there is probably nobody on this team that has more upside than Evan Neal at this point. I am not a believer that he can make it at OT, but if he can be competent and allow JE to move to guard, the OL will indeed be something to be hopeful about.
Will be interesting to see how he performs against the Texans and Jets.
I had this thought as well. It may not be too far off.
Moments:
"I stepped out of the womb an offensive tackle." (When asked about playing guard)
"I put a lot of dominant reps on tape; a lot of times they go unnoticed." (When asked if he could be dominant in the NFL)
"To be honest, it hurts." (When asked how his ankle was feeling when he put load on it)
I'm an Evan Neal fan not because of what he's done but because of how important he is going forward. If Eluemunor is playing RT, then someone else is starting in whom I don't have a lot of confidence and who I don't see as the future of this OL.
youtube - ( New Window )
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Good enough athleticism
Excellent character and work ethic
Often injured, games missed
Several OL coaches
Some real confidence crushing games
He can still put it together
I think he will if - healthy and Bricillo is a good coach for him
Yes, exactly
Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
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Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
Oh, top 10, sorry
Derek Brown…?
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Why would it be bad?
Sometimes I don’t know if people are over-thinking or under-thinking.
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Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
Toney wasn’t top ten but I’d put Apple and Flowers in that group of horrible top picks.
Neal at least to me has the athleticism, smarts and work ethic to improve and I don’t think the others had any of those traits.
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Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
Oh, top 10, sorry
Derek Brown…?
Derek Brown 12th pick…
If Neal and/or JMS can't stay healthy or get up to speed, the immediate depth also appears capable of making this a decent OL. I hope the confidence we have in Bricillo and the early reports from camp/first pre-season action are correct.
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Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
Oh, top 10, sorry
Derek Brown…?
Derek Brown 12th pick…
Thomas Lewis (WR from IU.) What a disappointment he was.
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Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney….
Oh, top 10, sorry
Derek Brown…?
Derek Brown 12th pick…
Ereck Flowers was #9 and Eli Apple was a #10. Pick your poison.
Also, great news today that JMS and Neal will both be practicing soon. They barely have a month to get JMS ready for the season and get Neal back up to speed and see where he's at.
The reason for optimism is the apparent improvement of 2023 offensive linemen under Bricillo versus their performance under Bobby Johnson.
If Bricillo can improve Neal's poor balance and / or slow feet, he's truly a miracle worker.
Hopefully, this allows Ezeudu to go back to Guard, where he belongs. He should only play tackle as an emergency.
JMS' situation is much more muddled. I wouldn't put him back in the lineup UNTIL he shows he's their best option at C.
It's amazing to me how many 'fans' don't want him to be a standout tackle.
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Yeah, my first concern before Eric and everyone else piled on like I was an idiot asshole is that the Giants training staff has a long history of having players come back too soon. That's primarily why I wasn't sure if this was good or bad news. Buy that doesn't fit the narrative that Giants fans are now stupid or want to see the team fail.
I also think the Giants are better of if Neal practices at OG. I think the starting OL needs as many reps together as possible.
You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
The roster is so much better off if Neal can develop enough to be a reliable Right Tackle. Pretty sure Schoen gets that even though it may not be mainstream opinion here. And I tend to still expect that to happen more than I don't at this point.
Hope to see him playing with the 1s soon.
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I can't say I know where he stands on EN long term but I was kind of close to his position, not rooting for him not to come off PUP but letting him work his way back slowly, carefully, taking the time to understand Bricillo's methods, techniques, and cohesion awareness of scheme.
That is to say, get him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and get really grounded to the athlete that he can be.
Yeah, my first concern before Eric and everyone else piled on like I was an idiot asshole is that the Giants training staff has a long history of having players come back too soon. That's primarily why I wasn't sure if this was good or bad news. Buy that doesn't fit the narrative that Giants fans are now stupid or want to see the team fail.
I also think the Giants are better of if Neal practices at OG. I think the starting OL needs as many reps together as possible.
I assume you mean practices at guard with the second or third team (otherwise the "starting" O line wouldn't be getting reps together). So why can't he practice at tackle with the 2nd and 3rd teams?
But show me a tackle who had a sprained knee, an unspecified ankle injury, and a fractured ankle in his first two years, causing him to miss a bunch of games and play 5 or 6 others hurt who played at an average level.
Not to mention, the questions that have arisen about the quality of coaching.
The Giants are much better off if he plays at a high level at tackle than at guard. Although, I can imagine RBs salivating at running behind a left side of Thomas and Neal.
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You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up
I couldn't help but do this like Bone Thugs n Harmony -First of the Month.
Nice!
I used INXS "Need you Tonight".
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The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.
Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.
+1
They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level. He's too topsy turvy. Not enough balance to handle speed on the outside.
If there ever was player who was mishandled worse in d line to see it. He was pretty much forced to play hurt both years and on a broken ankle
Seriously. Let the coach see what he has. Kid started for 4 years in the SEC. The screaming about this player is not based on any rationality. Now may he should move to guard but think it's stupid to demand this. Let's see the kid healthy for 6-10 games under CB?
If there ever was player who was mishandled worse in d line to see it. He was pretty much forced to play hurt both years and on a broken ankle
"Neal never played on a broken ankle" should be stickied.
Nah. Definitely more Wordsworth. Compare:
My heart leaps up when I behold
A Rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began;
So is it now I am a man;
So be it when I shall grow old,
Or let me die!
The Child is father of the man;
And I wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.
Time to take the leap or fade away.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me….especially having to play the best, the fastest, and the smartest Edge rushers on this planet.
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So we want to move a guy that's struggling at his natural position to a spot he doesn't play? Yeah that makes sense...
Agreed. I know opinions are like assholes but how about people let coaches coach, players play and see where it’s at when the dust settles?
The coaches are the ones getting paid to coach and evaluate so I’m fine letting them do their jobs they’re so obviously way more qualified at than I am to do either.
Wait. Someone who's okayed a down of organizes football doesn't know more than lifelong coaches?? Insanity. But this place has been that way for a while now. Hysteria and mania over an over
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You have what it takes, do it. It's time to deliver.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me.
But maybe his feet has been injured and has played hurt.
Maybe bad coaches.
He certainly doesn't have much time
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You have what it takes, do it. It's time to deliver.
JonC….I think Sy might take issue with you here….his balance is poor and he is often on the ground…..this doesn’t like a guy who has what it takes to me.
Sy had his criticisms, but gave Neal a first round grade.
Yeah, this did perplex me….on the one hand, the guy is on the ground too much, bad footwork, off balance…..and then gives him a high rating….go figure!
I do believe that Neal can be a better G than T. He doesn’t seem to have the natural lateral movement to play outside. Let hope if it doesn’t work at OT he can cross train and try G.
Didn’t Elumenor get the RT spot due to an injury of Neal
At this point I don’t see Neal being looked at as a G
Was Neal injured in his first year with the Giants, but reluctant to report it? Does he have a vision issue? He wears glasses at times. If Neal is finally fully healthy, we may be surprised by what we see. If, on the other hand, he's ineffective, he will be considered a major miscalculation by Joe Schoen.
What you are noticing is another example of everything that is wrong with this world... That mentality has manifested in everything... Including sports. In this market, the generation that has been indoctrinated still is going to like sports... I wish they would root for the Jets.