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Evan Neal is off the PUP

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:49 am
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:50 am : link
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Evan Neal is coming off PUP and will do individuals today, Brian Daboll says #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 9:50 am : link
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#Giants100 Daboll - JMS will be lomited today...neal coming off pup today...cager and stoll and fox return ...
Well, that was unexpected.  
section125 : 8/11/2024 9:55 am : link
Now we can see what Carmen Bricillo can do with him.

I expected JMS to come off today.
Evan Neal  
M.S. : 8/11/2024 9:55 am : link

You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up

Ok, this is Neal's push for  
jvm52106 : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.

Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.

Ok, this is Neal's push for  
jvm52106 : 8/11/2024 9:56 am : link
The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.

Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.

Honestly i would leave Neal as the swing tackle for now  
nygiants16 : 8/11/2024 10:00 am : link
this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps
RE: Evan Neal  
Optimus-NY : 8/11/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16573863 M.S. said:
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You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up


Uh-oh! We've got a regular William Wordsworth on our hands here!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:02 am : link
Well, I didn't see this coming.
RE: Ok, this is Neal's push for  
Optimus-NY : 8/11/2024 10:03 am : link
In comment 16573865 jvm52106 said:
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The RT job but maybe even more importantly right now his push to just show he is physically capable of playing.

Regardless he needs to show he can play as he is a huge factor in the overall configuration of the OL group.


+1

They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level. He's too topsy turvy. Not enough balance to handle speed on the outside.
History being made  
HBart : 8/11/2024 10:03 am : link
Eric, for Giants Info and History, The start of a new era: August 11, 2024. Evan Neal comes off PUP.

:)
RE: RE: Ok, this is Neal's push for  
DefenseWins : 8/11/2024 10:09 am : link
In comment 16573880 Optimus-NY said:
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They need to convince him to concentrate and commit to Guard IMO. He can't play tackle at this level.


I am trying to wrap my mind around the idea of having to "convince" a player to play a position that the coach is telling you to play. He is under contract and must follow instructions. He is not a superstar who can demand a trade.
Hallelujah  
The Mike : 8/11/2024 10:13 am : link
The conspiracy theorist in me says that he was brought off the PUP once practices became closed to fans to minimize Neal's exposure to fan criticism and his ill advised reactions to such criticism.

But be that as it may, there is probably nobody on this team that has more upside than Evan Neal at this point. I am not a believer that he can make it at OT, but if he can be competent and allow JE to move to guard, the OL will indeed be something to be hopeful about.

Will be interesting to see how he performs against the Texans and Jets.
I commented yesterday I thought Neal  
mfsd : 8/11/2024 10:19 am : link
may start the season on IR. Glad to be wrong, and would love nothing more than to see him step up, win a job, and become a good NFL player
Daboll been  
Giantsbigblue : 8/11/2024 10:22 am : link
Playing this all close to the vest. I did see him walk into the skirmish's last week against the Lions so he was either stupid or pretty healed.
RE: Evan Neal  
Blueworm : 8/11/2024 10:25 am : link
In comment 16573863 M.S. said:
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You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up


I couldn't help but do this like Bone Thugs n Harmony -First of the Month.
RE: Honestly i would leave Neal as the swing tackle for now  
barens : 8/11/2024 10:26 am : link
In comment 16573873 nygiants16 said:
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this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps


Agree with this, in no way should get the starting tackle spot back. Might be a firable offense.

On a serious note  
HBart : 8/11/2024 10:26 am : link
The OL(s) performance on Thursday was so completely different; the cohesion was night and day. The coaching impact was magnificently stark.

One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.

Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.
Coach Bricillo will be the best judge on where to play him and,  
Ira : 8/11/2024 10:34 am : link
hopefully will bring him along slowly.
Let’s fuckin roll.  
mittenedman : 8/11/2024 10:35 am : link
Early returns on the OL playing as a group are strong. Want to see Schmitz and Neal in this environment.
RE: On a serious note  
BigBlueinDE : 8/11/2024 10:38 am : link
In comment 16573917 HBart said:
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The OL(s) performance on Thursday was so completely different; the cohesion was night and day. The coaching impact was magnificently stark.

One of my daughters gymnastics coaches named Marina was world renowned for her floor coaching and choreography. If/when a girl reached a high level, Marina would step in to spend a couple weeks revamping and coaching up her routine. A girl lucky enough to get "Marinaized" came out the other side at a whole new level.

Anxious to see the "Bricilloized" Evan Neal.



Would be great to see. This is a put up or shut up year for Neal.
Well, the teacher has come  
thevett : 8/11/2024 10:43 am : link
Out in me. It’s William Wadsworth Longfellow
RE: I commented yesterday I thought Neal  
Bill in UT : 8/11/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16573903 mfsd said:
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may start the season on IR. Glad to be wrong, and would love nothing more than to see him step up, win a job, and become a good NFL player


He still may start the season on IR :)
RE: Evan Neal  
Chocco : 8/11/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16573863 M.S. said:
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You're off the PUP
You gotta get up
Don't reach for your cup
It ain't time for sup
You need to catch up
Or else hang 'em up

I heard the news when I woke up
Evan Neal has come off of the PUP
If he lets his man go by
Eluemunor will get a try
And Neal will be left holding his cup
I have to admit that right now I feel much more comfortable with  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2024 10:50 am : link
Eluemunor out there at RT than Neal.
RE: I have to admit that right now I feel much more comfortable with  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/11/2024 10:54 am : link
In comment 16573957 PatersonPlank said:
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Eluemunor out there at RT than Neal.


Same. I'm not even comfortable with Neal starting.
Would love to see Neal wrecking people this year  
widmerseyebrow : 8/11/2024 10:58 am : link
I want Schoen to be more right than wrong so we can have confidence that he can build continuity all over the roster going forward.
RE: Honestly i would leave Neal as the swing tackle for now  
widmerseyebrow : 8/11/2024 11:00 am : link
In comment 16573873 nygiants16 said:
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this way no pressure on him right as he is returning and still getting back to 100%..Let Carmen work with him, there will be a time he has to get snaps


This is a rational take. Don't want to gamble on Neal's short term health and risk having to shuffle everyone again right before or shortly into the season.
At this point I would like to see Neal as the swing tackle  
blueblood : 8/11/2024 11:05 am : link
and move Ezudu inside to guard.
Neal is off the PUP and can  
Marty in Albany : 8/11/2024 11:09 am : link
practice with the team.

I'm guessing that this will give the Giants a better look at whether to switch him to Guard or not.

I'm guessing that Neal is still not completely healthy and is still a long way from being prepared technique-wise to play in a regular season game.
LOL  
4xchamps : 8/11/2024 11:11 am : link
So we want to move a guy that's struggling at his natural position to a spot he doesn't play? Yeah that makes sense...
Doctor's opinion  
Hilary : 8/11/2024 11:19 am : link
In this video Dr.Kirk Campbell an orthopedic surgeon at NYU says that for the surgery that Neal had the expected recovery time is 4-6 months. He also says that it is not unexpected that Neal is taking longer because of his size and the fact that playing football puts a lot more stress on the ankle than almost anything else someone can do.
If JMS comes back the Giants will have a lot of depth at interior line and can use Neal as the swing tackle.
Doctor's opinion - ( New Window )
Jumbo tackle  
Woodstock : 8/11/2024 11:23 am : link
And hopefully next years RG
I hope Neal can beat out….  
5BowlsSoon : 8/11/2024 11:27 am : link
EZEUDU for the swing tackle position.

Side note: the way Joshua Miles played Thursday, he may have to beat him out as well.
I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2024 11:30 am : link
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RE: I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 11:34 am : link
In comment 16574018 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Why would it be bad?
Hope his injuries are behind him now  
Rick in Dallas : 8/11/2024 11:36 am : link
Would love to see him contribute to the OL
So IF (Big IF) Neal Can Win The Starting RT Job  
Trainmaster : 8/11/2024 11:38 am : link
(Probably not for the season opener), what does the OL look like?

I would assume:

Thomas
Runyan
JMS
Eluemunor
Neal

RE: So IF (Big IF) Neal Can Win The Starting RT Job  
5BowlsSoon : 8/11/2024 11:43 am : link
In comment 16574028 Trainmaster said:
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(Probably not for the season opener), what does the OL look like?

I would assume:

Thomas
Runyan
JMS
Eluemunor
Neal


I hope BRICILLO is not forced by Schoen to start Neal….in order to try not make him look worse than he already looks for drafting 4 very poor to mediocre OL guys: Neal, JMS, Ezeudu, and Mckethan.
Let’s hope Carmen can coach him up.  
Giant John : 8/11/2024 11:47 am : link
To say all pro level. Based on how good the OLine looked he should be able to improve Neal’s performance to some degree.
RE: RE: I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2024 11:48 am : link
In comment 16574021 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16574018 sb from NYT Forum said:


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Why would it be bad?


I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.

Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.


I  
AcidTest : 8/11/2024 11:48 am : link
am surprised. I thought he would transition to the regular season PUP, but as someone else said, Daboll has been very coy about Neal's status. But as someone else also said, with the new IR rule, Neal could still go on IR and be eligible play later this season.

At this point, he just needs to start practicing. Eluemunor should remain as the starting RT. Neal can be the swing tackle, assuming he is ready by the beginning of the regular season.
They will need to get him on football shape  
Giant John : 8/11/2024 11:53 am : link
As they coach him up. It will take some time.
That’s great news!  
Section331 : 8/11/2024 11:53 am : link
Now let’s see what he got, and if he can win his job back.
No more scholarships...  
Capt. Don : 8/11/2024 12:00 pm : link
Keep Eluemunor out there.

Still rooting for Neal to succeed long term but let him get coached for a while and build some confidence.
I hope he starts team drills  
Jaenyg : 8/11/2024 12:05 pm : link
At 2nd team RT and earns his way back
Now let's hope...  
BMac : 8/11/2024 12:06 pm : link
...he doesn't screw the pooch!
RE: RE: RE: I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 12:08 pm : link
In comment 16574045 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 16574018 sb from NYT Forum said:


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Why would it be bad?



I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.

Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.



So you just want to keep him on an injury list until we cut him?

Got it.
I don't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/11/2024 12:09 pm : link
know what happened to Giants fans, but it isn't good.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I honestly don't know if this is a good or bad thing  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/11/2024 12:10 pm : link
In comment 16574079 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16574021 Eric from BBI said:


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Why would it be bad?



I don't trust the Giants medical staff and think it's at least possible that he may get re-aggravate his ankle.

Also I prefer Eluemunor at RT.





So you just want to keep him on an injury list until we cut him?

Got it.


Come on Eric, you are better than this. I never said "cut him." Based on his injury history and the Giants trainers/med staff, I worry that he might not be ready.

If he is I hope they keep him as a backup or practice him at guard. I don't see him as a starting tackle.
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