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NFT: ⚾️ YANKEE THREAD⚾️ Texas Game 3. 8/11

Ron from Ninerland : 8/11/2024 1:02 pm

Hopefully Boone learns from yesterday  
jpetuch : 8/11/2024 1:05 pm : link
and makes his pitching changes wisely. And Chisholm read up on forceouts.One of the most irritating losses this year with alot to choose from.
All these games are big now.  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 1:06 pm : link
1 back of the Os. The Rangers need games desperately themselves.
The team had a plan for Cole  
shyster : 8/11/2024 1:14 pm : link
and the plan was 90 pitches.

It's not 1975 and Boone isn't Billy Martin.
Why can't Boone stop moving around some of these young guys?  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 1:49 pm : link
Wells is the only guy who has consistently hit in the 4 hole all year, so of course, he bats him 5 today. All thi8s talk about protection for Judge, and Wells has hit behind him. Leave him there and let this simmer.

And Volpe has batted everywhere from 4-9 since being bumped from the leadoff slot. Has Chisholm batted in the same spot 2 or more games in a row?
RE: The team had a plan for Cole  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16574164 shyster said:
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and the plan was 90 pitches.

It's not 1975 and Boone isn't Billy Martin.
Yet, seemingly Boone takes a page out of Martin's book and picks the names (other than Soto and Judge) out of a hat, because he has a different lineup every fucking game.
RE: RE: The team had a plan for Cole  
shyster : 8/11/2024 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16574221 Matt M. said:
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Yet, seemingly Boone takes a page out of Martin's book and picks the names (other than Soto and Judge) out of a hat, because he has a different lineup every fucking game.


It's often been pointed out here that Boone does not make the lineup, certainly not on his own.

As for today's lineup: Heaney is a lefty. In 41 plate appearances against lefties, Wells does not have an extra base hit.

Batting Stanton fourth means Judge gets pitched to. And Stanton got the sac fly for the run.
RE: RE: The team had a plan for Cole  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16574221 Matt M. said:
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and the plan was 90 pitches.

It's not 1975 and Boone isn't Billy Martin.

Yet, seemingly Boone takes a page out of Martin's book and picks the names (other than Soto and Judge) out of a hat, because he has a different lineup every fucking game.


We've had this debate/conversation quite a bit, but many people think the lineup mostly comes from the front office. (Gun to my head, I think the front office is responsible for the lineup on most days.)

But yeah I'd keep Wells at 4. I still don't know who should hit leadoff. I guess if I were dictator I'd just start the lineup with Soto and Judge.
I am not sure how much I believe the lineup origins theory  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 2:03 pm : link
that most espouse. I know the manager role has been changing and reliance on analytics is at an all time high. But, I have never bought that Boone is handed a lineup every game by the front office.
RE: RE: RE: The team had a plan for Cole  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 2:04 pm : link
In comment 16574230 shyster said:
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Yet, seemingly Boone takes a page out of Martin's book and picks the names (other than Soto and Judge) out of a hat, because he has a different lineup every fucking game.



It's often been pointed out here that Boone does not make the lineup, certainly not on his own.

As for today's lineup: Heaney is a lefty. In 41 plate appearances against lefties, Wells does not have an extra base hit.

Batting Stanton fourth means Judge gets pitched to. And Stanton got the sac fly for the run.
I know the splits. I'd still keep him there. He needs consistency, at this point. Plus, it breaks up 2 righties in Judge and Stanton, which is nice when the opponent goes to the pen, which is likely to happen 3 or 4 times.
RE: I am not sure how much I believe the lineup origins theory  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 2:22 pm : link
In comment 16574238 Matt M. said:
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that most espouse. I know the manager role has been changing and reliance on analytics is at an all time high. But, I have never bought that Boone is handed a lineup every game by the front office.


I believe there have been interviews where Boone implies that they email him a preliminary lineup and then he discusses with them changes he might want to make (that does not happen frequently).

I'm lukewarm on Boone, but feel like he has enough to legitimately criticize when the lineup is likely mostly not his responsibility.
Soto absolute bomb.  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 2:23 pm : link
Sheesh.
RE: RE: I am not sure how much I believe the lineup origins theory  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 2:39 pm : link
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that most espouse. I know the manager role has been changing and reliance on analytics is at an all time high. But, I have never bought that Boone is handed a lineup every game by the front office.



I believe there have been interviews where Boone implies that they email him a preliminary lineup and then he discusses with them changes he might want to make (that does not happen frequently).

I'm lukewarm on Boone, but feel like he has enough to legitimately criticize when the lineup is likely mostly not his responsibility.
I have not seen, heard, or read those interviews. I have only seen it speculated as fact here on BBI by a number of people.

Either way, I don't care if it's Boone, Cashman, some stathead, a computer, or anyone else. I don't like the different lineups every single game.

I swear, I am amazed to read their record this year, because this team has not looked or felt like one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the league for many weeks. I really wish we could fast forward to the post season already. I want to see if this is another weak hitting, embarrassing, soft exit and if so, will Boone and/or Cashman finally be held accountable. I suspect yes on Boone and no on Cashman, which is the bigger problem, in my opinion.
RE: Why can't Boone stop moving around some of these young guys?  
BigBlueShock : 8/11/2024 2:57 pm : link
In comment 16574218 Matt M. said:
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Wells is the only guy who has consistently hit in the 4 hole all year, so of course, he bats him 5 today. All thi8s talk about protection for Judge, and Wells has hit behind him. Leave him there and let this simmer.

And Volpe has batted everywhere from 4-9 since being bumped from the leadoff slot. Has Chisholm batted in the same spot 2 or more games in a row?

At what point are you going to realize that batting order is going to differ when there is a lefty on mound? For crying out loud, I know you’re massively obsessed with batting order, but you at least put some thought into it and look at the opposing pitcher before bitching about the order every single day?
But back to baseball  
section125 : 8/11/2024 3:00 pm : link
as Soto has bad luck smoking a ball right at the 1st baseman holding Verdugo on base for an easy DP with runners at 1st and 3rd...followed by another IBB to Judge.

Stanton up with pitching change.

Stanton bomb.  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 3:03 pm : link
The lineup is much better and deeper with Stanton in it. (Plus he's hit like a beast in the playoffs before, which matters to me.)
Missed with two 97 mph fastballs  
shyster : 8/11/2024 3:07 pm : link
then hung a slider in the zone. Stanton likes those.
Stroman out of gas,  
section125 : 8/11/2024 3:14 pm : link
see how the BP can eff this up.
Whoa, Cousins with  
section125 : 8/11/2024 3:22 pm : link
the nasty freaking slider. And I only thought Yankees looked stupid swinging at balls out of the zone.
Oh man  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 3:28 pm : link
the high school this Rangers reliever went to is near where I grew up and it was certainly not, as O'Neill guessed, a "resort."
How the fuck does Chilsom not catch that?  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 3:55 pm : link
Jesus Christ.
RE: How the fuck does Chilsom not catch that?  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 3:57 pm : link
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Jesus Christ.


Especially appropriate given that O'Neill and Kay were gushing about his 3B defense earlier.
RE: How the fuck does Chilsom not catch that?  
section125 : 8/11/2024 3:59 pm : link
In comment 16574336 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Jesus Christ.


Don't know what to say. That was Volpe's ball. Normally if 3rd can get to it, he should, but you can't not get there.

And then Torres cuts in front of Volpe and barely gets the 3rd out. That was effing stupid.
SOTO!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:02 pm : link
.
JUDGE!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:03 pm : link
SOTO AND JUDGE BACK TO BACK!!!
Yeah man!  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:05 pm : link
Missed Soto's talking to the Boss but got there Judge's.

Stanton, Soto, Judge....
Alright!  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 4:06 pm : link
Gotta love Soto Judge back to back!
Stanton smashed  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:07 pm : link
one at the SS, followed by Wells double to deep right. No sodt contact this inning.
O's lost!  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 4:10 pm : link
Let's close this thang out.
Turned on just in time  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/11/2024 4:12 pm : link
To see the back to back dingers.

Who is this Nun and why are they showing her non-stop lol?
Leiter shitting the  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:23 pm : link
bed. This pen is truly horrible.
Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:24 pm : link
What a great acquistion he was, lol.
Oh ffs.  
Mike from SI : 8/11/2024 4:24 pm : link
Our next series starts tomorrow. Low leverage guys just couldn't get it done, nor could Leiter. At least we're playing the White Sox.
RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:31 pm : link
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What a great acquistion he was, lol.


weird take
DJLM is slower than  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:35 pm : link
Stanton...thrown out at second by 10 feet on a ball off the wall in deep right.
Hold on to your  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:37 pm : link
hats, Holmes coming back out for the ninth...
RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:44 pm : link
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Holmes, once he gets to 20-22  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:45 pm : link
pitches falls apart - loses his control.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:48 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:52 pm : link
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Yeah it is. One bad outing you make sweeping comments.
Boone must be making a  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:53 pm : link
statement to Cashman by leaving Holmes out there to sink.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:53 pm : link
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Yeah it is. One bad outing you make sweeping comments.


Definitely not his only bad outing.
Nice Win  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/11/2024 4:54 pm : link
I went with my kid to the beach when the Yankees were up 5-0 in the 5th; I got back to see the Rangers had the tying run at the plate in the 8th. Always an adventure with Holmes but he got done.
Yankees barely win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 4:54 pm : link
MY GOD, this bullpen sucks MAJOR ASS. Holmes is fucking trash. No way he can be our closer next year. Guy is fucking awful.
I don’t know what that was at the end  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/11/2024 4:57 pm : link
But I’ll take it
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
section125 : 8/11/2024 4:57 pm : link
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Yeah it is. One bad outing you make sweeping comments.



Definitely not his only bad outing.


Ok, name the other ones. He wasn't the sharpest his first day, but survived it. Only gave up 2 HRs all year until today.
And do not tell me about the Cubs....don't care about anything that happened with the Cubs.

A win is a win, or something, I guess.  
bceagle05 : 8/11/2024 4:57 pm : link
So excited that Holmes and Torres will be former Yankees soon.
RE: Nice Win  
black aces : 8/11/2024 4:58 pm : link
In comment 16574395 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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I went with my kid to the beach when the Yankees were up 5-0 in the 5th; I got back to see the Rangers had the tying run at the plate in the 8th. Always an adventure with Holmes but he got done.


they even got the go ahead run in scoring position. its amazing how bad the pen is
I would like to see Holmes'  
section125 : 8/11/2024 5:05 pm : link
stats on 4 out saves and throwing 25 or more pitches in an outing. Probably pretty bad.

He just seems to fall apart after 20-22 pitches. They needed a closer and should let Holmes go after this year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 5:18 pm : link
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Yeah it is. One bad outing you make sweeping comments.
One bad outing? He's pitched most games since coming over and he's been pretty bad.
Well Boone/Cashman won this one with the cleanup spot.  
Matt M. : 8/11/2024 5:19 pm : link
And, Stanton has been decent since coming back.

This bullpen will be their undoing.
Stanton is ready to go on a roll  
xman : 8/11/2024 11:21 pm : link
hope he can avoid tweaking something while hes scorching hot.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Leiter is absolute garbage.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2024 11:23 pm : link
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Yeah it is. One bad outing you make sweeping comments.



Definitely not his only bad outing.



Ok, name the other ones. He wasn't the sharpest his first day, but survived it. Only gave up 2 HRs all year until today.
And do not tell me about the Cubs....don't care about anything that happened with the Cubs.


His last 7 games he has a 5.40 ERA.
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