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Daniel Jones looked good except…

5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 5:46 pm
That one pass in his end zone while under duress. I’m sure he knows that too. Okay, so he made a mistake…it happens. This was his first game back so why make a big deal on this one play? Let’s review the positives of the game for him:

1. His numbers were pretty good: 11-18 for 138.

And had Nabers not dropped that long pass down the right sideline…and yes, it was beautifully thrown….Nabers has been catching harder passes than that all preseason….his stats would have been 12-18 for about 170. That’s not bad for one half of football.

2. No sacks, so he got rid of the ball quickly

3. Very accurate long passes…the one to Slayton for 44 was a beaut. The drop by Nabers in quarter 1 was nice. A few others to Nabers were nice.

4. His two minute drill at the end of the first half was tremendous. Too bad we had to kick a FG instead of a TD to tie up the game.

5. Being down 14-10 at half on the road isn’t too shabby.

6. This was Jones first game back from a serious injury. He looked poised and relaxed. Naturally, there will be some rust to shake off. Like I said, his numbers and the score at half are not an indication he stunk. Reading some comments saying otherwise is just not accurate. I think everyone who absolutely cannot cut Jones any slack will see what THEY WANT TO SEE. Like that one ill advised pass…..and forget the rest.

Oh well, I’m sure I can’t convince the hard of heart guys out there, but you should not be hating on Jones for THIS GAME.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/17/2024 5:47 pm : link
Dude. Seriously?
Is this DJ's family?  
ATL_Giants : 8/17/2024 5:48 pm : link
 
The first 2 series were a disaster  
Breeze_94 : 8/17/2024 5:50 pm : link
He bounced back. Nevermind the 2 INT’s, the takeaways were that his legs looked good, the ball came out of his hand well, he had time to throw, and he gave the WR’s opportunities to make plays down the field
RE: …  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16579350 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Dude. Seriously?


Dude, very serious.

When did 12-18 for 170 look bad to you? (Assuming Nabers catches that pass)

Did you read my post? Why don’t you take issue with my 6 points? Probably because you know you will get out debated….

Stick to the facts, not opinions…..too many of you guys make that mistake. You need older guys like myself to balance you out and remind you FACTS > Opinions
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Go Terps : 8/17/2024 5:53 pm : link
Accurate on deep passes?  
Capt. Don : 8/17/2024 5:55 pm : link
What about the underthrow to Hyatt that was picked off?
It's  
Giantsbigblue : 8/17/2024 5:55 pm : link
A waste here. People here already have theirnheals dug in with their opinions and openly celebrate when he messes up because they need some validation in their lives.
RE: The first 2 series were a disaster  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16579358 Breeze_94 said:
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He bounced back. Nevermind the 2 INT’s, the takeaways were that his legs looked good, the ball came out of his hand well, he had time to throw, and he gave the WR’s opportunities to make plays down the field


I was t able to watch closely with my grandchildren over the house playing rough with our two dogs….but didn’t Nabers drop that beautifully thrown long pass in one of those first two series? I’m pretty sure he did. If you agree, then you certainly can’t fault him for that series.
The first pass he threw should have been intercepted by Stingley forTD  
Rick in Dallas : 8/17/2024 5:58 pm : link
Pass to Gray was not accurate in 2 minute drill
Let’s be honest please about DJ
He did make some nice throws as you mentioned
the two opposite extremes on this debate  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/17/2024 5:58 pm : link
are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.
I out on DJ  
Bryanjints : 8/17/2024 5:59 pm : link
4 wins will be a miracle IMO. I've been a DJ supporter until today. I wish him all the best next year but he's going to need to find a team to be a backup on.
Those INTs  
darren in pdx : 8/17/2024 5:59 pm : link
and what should have been a pick six on the first play are what lose you games in the NFL. And the bad miss on the 3rd and six to Gray. There’s no spinning this positively. And with the best protection he’s had his entire career.
So Mrs Lincoln beside that....how did you like the play  
George from PA : 8/17/2024 6:00 pm : link
Jones must play better.....
Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?  
HomerJones45 : 8/17/2024 6:00 pm : link
Jesus. Reality is not "extreme"; reality is reality.
RE: So Mrs Lincoln beside that....how did you like the play  
HomerJones45 : 8/17/2024 6:01 pm : link
In comment 16579381 George from PA said:
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Jones must play better.....
Great minds, George, great minds . . . ;0)
The OP is very correct  
Mike from Ohio : 8/17/2024 6:01 pm : link
That people will often see what they want to see.

I wonder if he has the self awareness to realize that after posting this morning about how he was “wiping the slate clean” with Jones, that he is posting about Jones having a good game despite being objectively awful?

5Bowls - you are seeing what you want to see.
Jones was rusty and probably overly excited  
DavidinBMNY : 8/17/2024 6:03 pm : link
He did not look good. He looked like he normally looks.
That said, it's his first game action in 9 months or so. Hopefully, he takes a long look at that beard and switches it to a mustache.
lol  
UberAlias : 8/17/2024 6:05 pm : link
It was a bad half. Kind of hard to deny as much.

Second int doesn’t bother me much. A very good CB made a play on ball that wasn’t horrible. It just wasn’t perfect, but I like the aggressive ness. The pic 6 was mind numbing stupid. There were a a couple other poor throws. Also some good ones. Bad game. Move on. Jones is what he is. I think if they can keep attacking down field we can be competitive. But he’s not the long term answer, we’ve known that. (Some of us since he was drafted).
He was 2-6 against the starters  
ajr2456 : 8/17/2024 6:07 pm : link
And 9-12 against the backups
RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/17/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16579376 Eric from BBI said:
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.


Well, one side is living in reality. The other isn’t.
RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
exiled : 8/17/2024 6:09 pm : link
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.

THIS!
RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
rnargi : 8/17/2024 6:13 pm : link
In comment 16579376 Eric from BBI said:
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.


It's as if people forget how bare the cupboard was before JS and BD got here. This team is growing. They are better than before they arrived, but still have a ways to go. They will not, in all likelihood, contend for a SB. The playoffs alone are a tall order. Everyone knew this. Just get better and keep building the roster. That's the goal right now. And it's the right approach. I don't understand why some feel that they are a QB or other player away from glory.
1. His numbers were pretty good: 11-18 for 138  
nygiantfan : 8/17/2024 6:16 pm : link
Add in 2 ints including a pick 6 score for the opposition.

When this QB line in 2024 is considered pretty good then all is lost for some NYG fans.
 
christian : 8/17/2024 6:16 pm : link
Jones looked good against the backup level players, after he got his feet under him. Which is the essential Daniel Jones.
Let's see what he looks like when the season starts  
56goat : 8/17/2024 6:18 pm : link
but today was not at all a good day.
...  
christian : 8/17/2024 6:18 pm : link
In comment 16579413 rnargi said:
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I don't understand why some feel that they are a QB or other player away from glory.

If CJ Stroud was the Giants quarterback, how many wins would you predict for the Giants?
RE: RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
knowledgetimmons : 8/17/2024 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16579402 exiled said:
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.


THIS!


Indeed this. DJ is not top 5, so Giants should be looking constantly for upgrades. But he also isn’t going to be a disaster. Our win total doesn’t change from 6 or 7 because of one half of a preseason game. People around here need to re-up their anxiety meds.
RE: Accurate on deep passes?  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16579368 Capt. Don said:
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What about the underthrow to Hyatt that was picked off?


Barely underthrown….Hyatt really didn’t have separation. At least Jones tried to give his WR a chance to fight for it. My gosh you can’t win with you guys….

“Jones is afraid to throw long, always checks down…”

And then when he does throw long and it gets picked…..”see that pass he (barely) underthrew ? What a bum….”

Always looking to find fault….
RE: Jones was rusty and probably overly excited  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16579392 DavidinBMNY said:
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He did not look good. He looked like he normally looks.
That said, it's his first game action in 9 months or so. Hopefully, he takes a long look at that beard and switches it to a mustache.


Again, when does 12-18 for 170 become bad? (Adding in Nabers drop)
Nobody is suggesting that Jones is preventing this team  
Mike from Ohio : 8/17/2024 6:21 pm : link
From winning a Super Bowl. The point is that the ceiling of this team is “hope for a wildcard” when you have poor QB play. JS and BD have made improvements to the roster, but they have not yet addressed the most important position on the field and many fans feel that is overdue.
I think DJ did fine after his horrific start also  
PatersonPlank : 8/17/2024 6:26 pm : link
He was looking to push it down the field, had a 12 yard run, and had a good 2 minute drill of 7 plays and 68 yds. I don't mind the Hyatt INT because he was going for it. He should have placed it in front rather than try and line drive it in, but I like the fact he was being aggressive.

I know saying "after the pick 6" he was fine is ridiculous, but its still preseason. If DJ plays like he did after the pick 6 we will score a lot of points. What was he after, something like 11-15 for 138 yds in one half.

I know its cool to bash bash bash, and I'm not saying DJ is a top 10 QB, but if he plays like he did after the pick-6 that is a top 20 type guy
RE: RE: Jones was rusty and probably overly excited  
Capt. Don : 8/17/2024 6:26 pm : link
In comment 16579434 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 16579392 DavidinBMNY said:


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He did not look good. He looked like he normally looks.
That said, it's his first game action in 9 months or so. Hopefully, he takes a long look at that beard and switches it to a mustache.



Again, when does 12-18 for 170 become bad? (Adding in Nabers drop)


If you add the Nabers drop then add the 1st pass of the game that could've been another pick 6.
You are on crack  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/17/2024 6:28 pm : link
Even the long pass to Slayton was underthrown… If he hit Slayton in stride, it’s a TD no contest… instead Slayton had a slow up wait for the ball to drop and by then the second string DB had caught up to him. It’s so much worse than what you are saying
RE: RE: Accurate on deep passes?  
Capt. Don : 8/17/2024 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16579429 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 16579368 Capt. Don said:


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What about the underthrow to Hyatt that was picked off?



Barely underthrown….Hyatt really didn’t have separation. At least Jones tried to give his WR a chance to fight for it. My gosh you can’t win with you guys….

“Jones is afraid to throw long, always checks down…”

And then when he does throw long and it gets picked…..”see that pass he (barely) underthrew ? What a bum….”

Always looking to find fault….


Re-watch it. Hyatt had a step with no safety help. It was the right decision, just a bad throw. DJ said as much in his post game.
He looked like Daniel Jones  
Dankbeerman : 8/17/2024 6:30 pm : link
the good part is he looked healthy.

The bad part is he still has the same flaws he always has.
RE: I think DJ did fine after his horrific start also  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 6:31 pm : link
In comment 16579447 PatersonPlank said:
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He was looking to push it down the field, had a 12 yard run, and had a good 2 minute drill of 7 plays and 68 yds. I don't mind the Hyatt INT because he was going for it. He should have placed it in front rather than try and line drive it in, but I like the fact he was being aggressive.

I know saying "after the pick 6" he was fine is ridiculous, but its still preseason. If DJ plays like he did after the pick 6 we will score a lot of points. What was he after, something like 11-15 for 138 yds in one half.

I know its cool to bash bash bash, and I'm not saying DJ is a top 10 QB, but if he plays like he did after the pick-6 that is a top 20 type guy


Thank you…well said….guys don’t want to consider this is his first game action after his injury….he got better as the game went on and like you said, he was pushing the ball downfield, exactly what so many guys here accuse him of not doing…
RE: I think DJ did fine after his horrific start also  
ajr2456 : 8/17/2024 6:31 pm : link
In comment 16579447 PatersonPlank said:
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He was looking to push it down the field, had a 12 yard run, and had a good 2 minute drill of 7 plays and 68 yds. I don't mind the Hyatt INT because he was going for it. He should have placed it in front rather than try and line drive it in, but I like the fact he was being aggressive.

I know saying "after the pick 6" he was fine is ridiculous, but its still preseason. If DJ plays like he did after the pick 6 we will score a lot of points. What was he after, something like 11-15 for 138 yds in one half.

I know its cool to bash bash bash, and I'm not saying DJ is a top 10 QB, but if he plays like he did after the pick-6 that is a top 20 type guy


So if he plays against backups he’s a top 20 guy?

He was 2-6 against their starters.
He looked better than DeVito  
jeff57 : 8/17/2024 6:32 pm : link
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RE: I out on DJ  
4xchamps : 8/17/2024 6:40 pm : link
In comment 16579378 Bryanjints said:
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4 wins will be a miracle IMO. I've been a DJ supporter until today. I wish him all the best next year but he's going to need to find a team to be a backup on.


Glad your opinion doesn't matter...
RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
Scooter185 : 8/17/2024 6:45 pm : link
In comment 16579376 Eric from BBI said:
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.


I'll suggest again a pinned Jones megathread for us to hash it out, and then enforce topicality in other threads, similar to your stance on the GDT from preseason game 1.

Or create a Jones flair similar to NGT and NFT.
RE: He looked like Daniel Jones  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 6:47 pm : link
In comment 16579453 Dankbeerman said:
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the good part is he looked healthy.

The bad part is he still has the same flaws he always has.


Your opinion should be discarded for bias…

“Same flaws”……nonsense….he was not afraid to air it out and give his WRs a chance…completed many that way too.

No sacks….didnt hood the ball too long.
RE: lol  
JoeSchoens11 : 8/17/2024 6:48 pm : link
In comment 16579394 UberAlias said:
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It was a bad half. Kind of hard to deny as much.

Second int doesn’t bother me much. A very good CB made a play on ball that wasn’t horrible. It just wasn’t perfect, but I like the aggressive ness. The pic 6 was mind numbing stupid. There were a a couple other poor throws. Also some good ones. Bad game. Move on. Jones is what he is. I think if they can keep attacking down field we can be competitive. But he’s not the long term answer, we’ve known that. (Some of us since he was drafted).
This is a good take. We could have some fun games if DJ is slinging 30-50yd passes 10 times a game. If he struggles or goes conservative then we will replace him next year.

He had some really good throws and a couple ridiculously bad decisions (the check-down when we caught them with the 12th man was so frustrating - he’s done this on a bunch on free plays in the past as well). I’m actually looking forward to seeing an entertaining offense that prioritizes chunk plays.
JFC just stop.  
DeVito32 : 8/17/2024 6:53 pm : link
And I’m part of the DJFC. But I’m a realist. He looked terrible today. Granted it’s his first live action in a year, but he didn’t look good at all.

You’re just as bad as Go Terps but on the opposite end.

My biggest defense of DJ is he played his entire career with by far the worst OL and WR in the NFL. I can’t say that anymore. The OL played well, gave him very good protection. They have young but very talented WR. They’ll be growing pains with wrong routes run and blown assignments but they have a lot of talent.

There’s literally no more excuses. The best thing he did today was stay healthy. There’s nothing he did today that I could defend except being rusty. But still made terrible decisions.

Im not destroying him for his play today but there’s nothing to defend. He was bad.

Year 1 - Rookie GM & HC  
MarvelousMike : 8/17/2024 6:54 pm : link
inherit front office staff and CAP Hell from prior GM. Barely able to afford a FA players to plug gap holes everywhere. Surprise NFL and get Wildcard win.
Off season between Year 1 & 2 have them sign QB to $160M contract that many do not feel he deserved over star RB. QB has poor games again and injuries, so fans want new QB drafted but team is not bad enough to get into the top three picks. Get stud WR1 as result.
Entering Year 3, the team has steadily gotten better but the QB situation still looks like not enough effort has been put in on getting a young, game changing QB. Second pre-season game has fans demanding GM & HC head on a spike.
Future year 4 will have same fans increasing their psychotropic medications to cope. Rinse, Repeat. lol
RE: 1. His numbers were pretty good: 11-18 for 138  
Milton : 8/17/2024 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16579417 nygiantfan said:
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Add in 2 ints including a pick 6 score for the opposition.
So it can be said that he was 13 of 18 for 144 yards and a TD...
You Can't Have It Both Ways? Or So I Am Told.  
JoeDonLooney : 8/17/2024 6:59 pm : link
If only Nabers catches the ball... If only Stingley intercept/ picks-6 the ball.

It is the same old junk as last year with a few breaks, the team could have had 9 wins... or is it 3 wins. IDK
Daniel Jones, the IF king  
BH28 : 8/17/2024 6:59 pm : link
IF you ignore the INTs
IF he had an OL
IF he had playmakers
IF he didn't get hurt

At some point you have to accept the IFs and realize he's mediocre at best.
RE: JFC just stop.  
5BowlsSoon : 8/17/2024 7:02 pm : link
In comment 16579497 DeVito32 said:
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And I’m part of the DJFC. But I’m a realist. He looked terrible today. Granted it’s his first live action in a year, but he didn’t look good at all.

You’re just as bad as Go Terps but on the opposite end.

My biggest defense of DJ is he played his entire career with by far the worst OL and WR in the NFL. I can’t say that anymore. The OL played well, gave him very good protection. They have young but very talented WR. They’ll be growing pains with wrong routes run and blown assignments but they have a lot of talent.

There’s literally no more excuses. The best thing he did today was stay healthy. There’s nothing he did today that I could defend except being rusty. But still made terrible decisions.

Im not destroying him for his play today but there’s nothing to defend. He was bad.


“There’s nothing he did today that I can defend…”

That says it all…..stupid comment…..next…..again I ask, when does 12-18 for 170 become bad? Answer me that……and again, I’ve added the 30 yard drop by Nabers on the first series. Too bad he dropped it….to start off 3 and out is not good…had he made that catch on a perfect throw, it’s not 3 and out and Giants in Houston territory, first down.

Okay let me see if you can redeem yourself a bit here…do you agree Nabers dropped that 3rd and 6 pass which killed that drive?

And don’t forget to tell me why you believe 12-18 for 170 is crappy…..Mahomes was 8-14 for 93. Crappy?

And don’t tell me about the pic 6….i conceded that to be ill advised and inexcusable….but I’m not going to make my whole judgment on that one throw.
RE: the two opposite extremes on this debate  
Joey in VA : 8/17/2024 7:02 pm : link
In comment 16579376 Eric from BBI said:
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are just pure cringe at this point. And it's ruining the site.

Maybe we add a new category. FT, NFT, DJT. Then you cab sort by that and ignore the Daniel Jones threads.
I think we have to invest in a time machine and replace Warner  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/17/2024 7:04 pm : link
with Jones on those greatest show on turf teams before some people here are convinced Jones just isn’t very good.
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