Being a Giants fan. Jones played liked shit against the Texans. The media and social media can’t stop ridiculing Daniel Jones and the entire team. Then the secondary get annihilated by the Rodgers and Jets in basically the last training camp practice. I’m at the point where I feel like I have no excitement for the season. There’s really nothing to look forward to besides Nabers and a couple of the young players on the team.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Being a Giants fan. Jones played liked shit against the Texans. The media and social media can’t stop ridiculing Daniel Jones and the entire team. Then the secondary get annihilated by the Rodgers and Jets in basically the last training camp practice. I’m at the point where I feel like I have no excitement for the season. There’s really nothing to look forward to besides Nabers and a couple of the young players on the team.
Time to grow a nut sack.
It's a preseason dude. You can't tell anything either way. Let it play out, maybe the team will surprise you?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Are similar players either but those are his EXACT words.
Thats scary from a scouting/evaluation standpoint. They are the complete opposite of player, personality and mentality . McCarthy is pre-snap read, quick decision and risk taker QB who has played the highest level of football and won at HS & College with a very intense personality. The critics say he has just been surrounded by great talents and thats why he succeeds. His top end skills are all mental and personality. The dreamers of his talent have compd him to an early career Brady.
Jones is a one-read QB with excellent running skills who is known for checking down with a low key personality and has played at lower levels of football in HS & Duke. The defenders say he has just been surrounded by terrible talent everywhere and thats why he hasnt had great success or stats. His top end skill is all physical (running). The dreamers of his talent have compd him to Josh Allen.
Maybe McCarthy wont make it in the NFL or maybe injuries will take him downor maybe he was just surrounded by great talent but he certainly is a very different player and mentality than Jones.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Cool story. Still think it’s a shit stat to hang completely on the human throwing the ball. Too many other factors at play.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
Are you able to post anything other than your thoughts about guys sucking other guys’ cocks? It seems a little weird for a football forum. Did you log on to the wrong forum by mistake?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Are you able to post anything other than your thoughts about guys sucking other guys’ cocks? It seems a little weird for a football forum. Did you log on to the wrong forum by mistake?
Good morning Mike. So you drew morning duty huh? Does “The Mike” take over for you at some point later today?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Holy shit you might be one of the stupidest human beings alive. Pass attempts do not include sacks you fucking moron.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
Poor example. Anthony Richardson has started one year in college and 4 professional games in his life, not 60+ on top of 4 years of college.
That's great that Jones is beloved of his owner and his teammates, a great guy, a hard worker, someone you hope your daughter marries and fun at parties. The guys who don't know him personally and just study film and play against him, don't seem to be impressed. So, he needs to get it the fuck done consistently on the field already. If not, get him the hell out of here already and let him take his shining personality and good fellowship elsewhere.
I know it's not apples to apples, but there were a ton of defensive players who continually disrespected Eli, and that got dissected to no end, or at least until he won a Super Bowl, but even Eli had his critics before and after the 1st Super Bowl.
it’s apples to used cars. I don’t know about all this supposed disdain for Manning. Manning got it done and has the rings to prove it. He was an OC on the field who could adjust on the fly. Until the team got bad, he had a rep for one of the most dangerous qb’s in the League with the ball in his hands and the game on the line. Jones on the other hand, sucks and other teams know it.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
A sack necessarily precludes a pass attempt (because it can't be a sack if the QB gets the ball out). A pass attempt necessarily precludes a sack (because the ball gets out).
This is only complicated for your room temperature IQ. Everyone besides you understands this. You're just wrong, and too stubborn to learn, unfortunately.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Google AI is wrong, and you're a fucking idiot.
So it was hallucinating. Next time I’ll fact check AI, wait no I won’t.
Doesn’t change my position regarding it being a shit stat to hang completely on the QB.
I bet you can barely contain yourself right now, considering you’re a miserable old fuck who lives to jump on people. You’re that asshole measuring the height of people’s grass and if their shed is the exact same shade of white, aren’t you?
I’m glad AI misleading me has allowed you to experience some joy today, you leathery cunt.
This is incredible- first making the case for Daniel being a near HOF'er on the back of powerhouse multiplication skills, then a cock-fueled meltdown, now an inability to calculate one of the most simple statistics in sports.
Over the many many years we have heard thousands of times how Daniel has been failed by the people closest to him - OL, WRs, TEs, coaches, defense, weather, media. They've all been letting him down for years.
Now we are discovering that yet another challenge for Daniel is that he needs smarter fans. Imagine the pressure and insecurity Daniel feels knowing that his biggest advocates can't do simple division. Knowing that if there is any adversity, they might just start screaming about cocks. The burden that Daniel carries is a heavy one, on and off the field.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Google AI is wrong, and you're a fucking idiot.
So it was hallucinating. Next time I’ll fact check AI, wait no I won’t.
Doesn’t change my position regarding it being a shit stat to hang completely on the QB.
I bet you can barely contain yourself right now, considering you’re a miserable old fuck who lives to jump on people. You’re that asshole measuring the height of people’s grass and if their shed is the exact same shade of white, aren’t you?
I’m glad AI misleading me has allowed you to experience some joy today, you leathery cunt.
"My position was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of a basic stat, but that doesn't change my positions." Ok lol.
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You made a post about Yards Per Attempt without knowing what an "attempt" is. Which proves you don't know what you're talking about.
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
If the greatest football minds can be humbled by the QB decision, why do we think a QB drafted by one of the worst may have got it right (+6 years to boot)
RE: RE: Surprised so many of you are on duty today
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You made a post about Yards Per Attempt without knowing what an "attempt" is. Which proves you don't know what you're talking about.
Once again out of context. Read what was posted.
RE: RE: Surprised so many of you are on duty today
But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
Just take your L and shut up.
I don’t have a problem taking an L when it’s warranted. This thread and from you boobs? Nope.
I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
1) It is immensely frustrating to be saddled with a QB like this for so long. And to know that all he has to do is stay somewhat healthy and not be terrible, and he could have the job until he chooses to walk away. For people who care about the Giants actually being good, it is maddening. Its been over 20 years since any team has handed a QB as bad as Jones for 6 years
2) It's all we can do to try to move the needle. The owner/CEO is in love with a backup QB. That's about as bad of a curse as you can have in the NFL. What will it take to escape?
- the exact right QB is available in the draft. Must pass Mara filters and be someone JS/BD are willing to stake their careers on
- Fan revolt
- Locker room revolt
- Injury
That's it. That's what gets us out. So if there are any contributions that can be made to a fan revolt, it's worth it. There is a world where the Giants spend 4 more years winning 6 to 9 games with Jones throwing for 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Giants fans should not want that. But it's out there as a possibility. Fans revolting is one thing that could stop it.
It's also incredibly frustrating to read the same crap by the same people post after post. If you want change then stop watching. The owners really doesn't give a shit as long as their pockets are full. Ranting on a message board is not going to do anything.
The last part is lost on me. People discuss the giants on the message board that doesn't affect outcomes. Newsflash! lol. Not sure I see your angle. As long as you're above the age of 6 I think we understand that an internet board isn't going to move the needle or change things. Not trying to be smug but...is this your first day on the internet? Ever listen to sports radio? Read any opinion based medium? etc.
Dan Snyder was one of the worst owners in the last century and got quite a nice return on his sale in washington, you don't have to point out that billionaire owners don't care. we know! The Giants could have the stadium half full and Mara would STILL come out ahead. Just not as much as he'd like.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
1) It is immensely frustrating to be saddled with a QB like this for so long. And to know that all he has to do is stay somewhat healthy and not be terrible, and he could have the job until he chooses to walk away. For people who care about the Giants actually being good, it is maddening. Its been over 20 years since any team has handed a QB as bad as Jones for 6 years
2) It's all we can do to try to move the needle. The owner/CEO is in love with a backup QB. That's about as bad of a curse as you can have in the NFL. What will it take to escape?
- the exact right QB is available in the draft. Must pass Mara filters and be someone JS/BD are willing to stake their careers on
- Fan revolt
- Locker room revolt
- Injury
That's it. That's what gets us out. So if there are any contributions that can be made to a fan revolt, it's worth it. There is a world where the Giants spend 4 more years winning 6 to 9 games with Jones throwing for 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Giants fans should not want that. But it's out there as a possibility. Fans revolting is one thing that could stop it.
It's also incredibly frustrating to read the same crap by the same people post after post. If you want change then stop watching. The owners really doesn't give a shit as long as their pockets are full. Ranting on a message board is not going to do anything.
The last part is lost on me. People discuss the giants on the message board that doesn't affect outcomes. Newsflash! lol. Not sure I see your angle. As long as you're above the age of 6 I think we understand that an internet board isn't going to move the needle or change things. Not trying to be smug but...is this your first day on the internet? Ever listen to sports radio? Read any opinion based medium? etc.
Dan Snyder was one of the worst owners in the last century and got quite a nice return on his sale in washington, you don't have to point out that billionaire owners don't care. we know! The Giants could have the stadium half full and Mara would STILL come out ahead. Just not as much as he'd like.
It was a reply to people trying to move the needle on the quarterback situation. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, but when you keep expressing the same opinion over and over again it gets kind of old. Everyone already has their heels dug into this topic and there is really no new data.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
+50
Or as they said in ancient Rome, +L
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
Sorry Mike but you’re wrong. I never thought it included sacks until after a AI query introduced that. My failure was in not fact checking and believing something I had just read.
I know you and others live for the validation so have at it. Feel big and proud of your accomplishment here. You even got + comment from your cliques eldest dickhead. Big things are happening for you!
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
Sorry Mike but you’re wrong. I never thought it included sacks until after a AI query introduced that. My failure was in not fact checking and believing something I had just read.
I know you and others live for the validation so have at it. Feel big and proud of your accomplishment here. You even got + comment from your cliques eldest dickhead. Big things are happening for you!
You and I are probably around the same age, give or take a couple of years. You're just a moron. Besides, age isn't an insult. There is literally nothing about you to envy.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Time to grow a nut sack.
It's a preseason dude. You can't tell anything either way. Let it play out, maybe the team will surprise you?
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Thats scary from a scouting/evaluation standpoint. They are the complete opposite of player, personality and mentality . McCarthy is pre-snap read, quick decision and risk taker QB who has played the highest level of football and won at HS & College with a very intense personality. The critics say he has just been surrounded by great talents and thats why he succeeds. His top end skills are all mental and personality. The dreamers of his talent have compd him to an early career Brady.
Jones is a one-read QB with excellent running skills who is known for checking down with a low key personality and has played at lower levels of football in HS & Duke. The defenders say he has just been surrounded by terrible talent everywhere and thats why he hasnt had great success or stats. His top end skill is all physical (running). The dreamers of his talent have compd him to Josh Allen.
Maybe McCarthy wont make it in the NFL or maybe injuries will take him downor maybe he was just surrounded by great talent but he certainly is a very different player and mentality than Jones.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Cool story. Still think it’s a shit stat to hang completely on the human throwing the ball. Too many other factors at play.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Source?
More breaking g news at 11
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Good morning Mike. So you drew morning duty huh? Does “The Mike” take over for you at some point later today?
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
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Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
No. It's my bad. Your correct.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Holy shit you might be one of the stupidest human beings alive. Pass attempts do not include sacks you fucking moron.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
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"The disdain has jumped the shark."
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
Poor example. Anthony Richardson has started one year in college and 4 professional games in his life, not 60+ on top of 4 years of college.
That's great that Jones is beloved of his owner and his teammates, a great guy, a hard worker, someone you hope your daughter marries and fun at parties. The guys who don't know him personally and just study film and play against him, don't seem to be impressed. So, he needs to get it the fuck done consistently on the field already. If not, get him the hell out of here already and let him take his shining personality and good fellowship elsewhere.
I know it's not apples to apples, but there were a ton of defensive players who continually disrespected Eli, and that got dissected to no end, or at least until he won a Super Bowl, but even Eli had his critics before and after the 1st Super Bowl.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Google AI is wrong, and you're a fucking idiot.
A sack necessarily precludes a pass attempt (because it can't be a sack if the QB gets the ball out). A pass attempt necessarily precludes a sack (because the ball gets out).
This is only complicated for your room temperature IQ. Everyone besides you understands this. You're just wrong, and too stubborn to learn, unfortunately.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
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YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Google AI is wrong, and you're a fucking idiot.
So it was hallucinating. Next time I’ll fact check AI, wait no I won’t.
Doesn’t change my position regarding it being a shit stat to hang completely on the QB.
I bet you can barely contain yourself right now, considering you’re a miserable old fuck who lives to jump on people. You’re that asshole measuring the height of people’s grass and if their shed is the exact same shade of white, aren’t you?
I’m glad AI misleading me has allowed you to experience some joy today, you leathery cunt.
Been here longer than you. Same username all these years. Nice try.
Over the many many years we have heard thousands of times how Daniel has been failed by the people closest to him - OL, WRs, TEs, coaches, defense, weather, media. They've all been letting him down for years.
Now we are discovering that yet another challenge for Daniel is that he needs smarter fans. Imagine the pressure and insecurity Daniel feels knowing that his biggest advocates can't do simple division. Knowing that if there is any adversity, they might just start screaming about cocks. The burden that Daniel carries is a heavy one, on and off the field.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
“Passing
YPA is calculated by dividing the total passing yards by the number of pass attempts, including sacks. It's a quarterback stat that can indicate how many yards are being gained on average, and can help identify outliers who have particularly high or low YPA. However, many factors can influence YPA, such as volume, catch percentage, and aDOT, so it's not always helpful on its own.”
That’s provided by Google AI. Maybe it’s hallucinating?
Google AI is wrong, and you're a fucking idiot.
So it was hallucinating. Next time I’ll fact check AI, wait no I won’t.
Doesn’t change my position regarding it being a shit stat to hang completely on the QB.
I bet you can barely contain yourself right now, considering you’re a miserable old fuck who lives to jump on people. You’re that asshole measuring the height of people’s grass and if their shed is the exact same shade of white, aren’t you?
I’m glad AI misleading me has allowed you to experience some joy today, you leathery cunt.
"My position was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of a basic stat, but that doesn't change my positions." Ok lol.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You made a post about Yards Per Attempt without knowing what an "attempt" is. Which proves you don't know what you're talking about.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
Just take your L and shut up.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
The BBI equivalent of a dead cat bounce.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
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I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
If the greatest football minds can be humbled by the QB decision, why do we think a QB drafted by one of the worst may have got it right (+6 years to boot)
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You made a post about Yards Per Attempt without knowing what an "attempt" is. Which proves you don't know what you're talking about.
Once again out of context. Read what was posted.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
Just take your L and shut up.
I don’t have a problem taking an L when it’s warranted. This thread and from you boobs? Nope.
Meltdown?
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I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
And yet the only season when jones had a decent oline he did play pretty well. Qbs can’t get hit ? News to me. Jones got the shit kicked out of him last season. That doesn’t mean any critiques of jones are off limits. He’s failed time and time again to lift the team when the shit hits the fan but you can make any qb look bad when you knock the crap out of him 10-15 times a game. Even Tom Brady.
On another note, comparing Neal at RT or any OL to the play of a QB is just fucking ridiculous. It ain’t the same thing. Not by a long shot. Linemen play in a vacuum. Qbs don’t. Bad OL can be insulated a little bit by their mates but if you’re bad you’re not getting any better no matter who’s next to you. If you’re good you’re going to look good no matter what. Put a good qb on the 1980 saints and take a guess what happens to that qb. And you don’t have to guess, go look at how Archie manning is remembered.
Jones isn’t a difference maker and probably won’t ever be a difference maker, but qbs need more help than any other position in pro sports maybe other than NHL goalie. While they will always be the most important player, they still need functionality around them. That’s just a stone cold fact. There’s a reason the greatest football scouting minds of all time have been humbled by the QB time and time again. George young drafts simms and hostettler then drafts Dave brown. Teams get the qb wrong so frequently isn’t at all possible the qb isn’t always the reason why? Or no? I guess not. I know most won’t buy it. Try.
Good post.
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1) It is immensely frustrating to be saddled with a QB like this for so long. And to know that all he has to do is stay somewhat healthy and not be terrible, and he could have the job until he chooses to walk away. For people who care about the Giants actually being good, it is maddening. Its been over 20 years since any team has handed a QB as bad as Jones for 6 years
2) It's all we can do to try to move the needle. The owner/CEO is in love with a backup QB. That's about as bad of a curse as you can have in the NFL. What will it take to escape?
- the exact right QB is available in the draft. Must pass Mara filters and be someone JS/BD are willing to stake their careers on
- Fan revolt
- Locker room revolt
- Injury
That's it. That's what gets us out. So if there are any contributions that can be made to a fan revolt, it's worth it. There is a world where the Giants spend 4 more years winning 6 to 9 games with Jones throwing for 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Giants fans should not want that. But it's out there as a possibility. Fans revolting is one thing that could stop it.
It's also incredibly frustrating to read the same crap by the same people post after post. If you want change then stop watching. The owners really doesn't give a shit as long as their pockets are full. Ranting on a message board is not going to do anything.
The last part is lost on me. People discuss the giants on the message board that doesn't affect outcomes. Newsflash! lol. Not sure I see your angle. As long as you're above the age of 6 I think we understand that an internet board isn't going to move the needle or change things. Not trying to be smug but...is this your first day on the internet? Ever listen to sports radio? Read any opinion based medium? etc.
Dan Snyder was one of the worst owners in the last century and got quite a nice return on his sale in washington, you don't have to point out that billionaire owners don't care. we know! The Giants could have the stadium half full and Mara would STILL come out ahead. Just not as much as he'd like.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
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1) It is immensely frustrating to be saddled with a QB like this for so long. And to know that all he has to do is stay somewhat healthy and not be terrible, and he could have the job until he chooses to walk away. For people who care about the Giants actually being good, it is maddening. Its been over 20 years since any team has handed a QB as bad as Jones for 6 years
2) It's all we can do to try to move the needle. The owner/CEO is in love with a backup QB. That's about as bad of a curse as you can have in the NFL. What will it take to escape?
- the exact right QB is available in the draft. Must pass Mara filters and be someone JS/BD are willing to stake their careers on
- Fan revolt
- Locker room revolt
- Injury
That's it. That's what gets us out. So if there are any contributions that can be made to a fan revolt, it's worth it. There is a world where the Giants spend 4 more years winning 6 to 9 games with Jones throwing for 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Giants fans should not want that. But it's out there as a possibility. Fans revolting is one thing that could stop it.
It's also incredibly frustrating to read the same crap by the same people post after post. If you want change then stop watching. The owners really doesn't give a shit as long as their pockets are full. Ranting on a message board is not going to do anything.
The last part is lost on me. People discuss the giants on the message board that doesn't affect outcomes. Newsflash! lol. Not sure I see your angle. As long as you're above the age of 6 I think we understand that an internet board isn't going to move the needle or change things. Not trying to be smug but...is this your first day on the internet? Ever listen to sports radio? Read any opinion based medium? etc.
Dan Snyder was one of the worst owners in the last century and got quite a nice return on his sale in washington, you don't have to point out that billionaire owners don't care. we know! The Giants could have the stadium half full and Mara would STILL come out ahead. Just not as much as he'd like.
It was a reply to people trying to move the needle on the quarterback situation. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, but when you keep expressing the same opinion over and over again it gets kind of old. Everyone already has their heels dug into this topic and there is really no new data.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
+50
Or as they said in ancient Rome, +L
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
Sorry Mike but you’re wrong. I never thought it included sacks until after a AI query introduced that. My failure was in not fact checking and believing something I had just read.
I know you and others live for the validation so have at it. Feel big and proud of your accomplishment here. You even got + comment from your cliques eldest dickhead. Big things are happening for you!
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But I guess it does require 4 or 5 miserable cunts to police the board and stomp out any flickers of positivity on any thread all hours of the day.
Blatant disregard for context. Find any opening and attack. Pile on. Circle jerks circling the wagon.
Y’all really are pathetic and have ruined this board.
My original post replying to a disingenuous use of YPA still stands. Being mislead by a quick google ai query doesn’t change that and doesn’t change the fact it’s a shit stat to use to support an argument for or against an individual player in a team sport.
Everything else here is some of the usual suspects doing what they do on any thread that has any post that doesn’t shit on Daniel Jones.
You’re having a bad day.
It happens. Forget it…wipe it off and start clean tomorrow.
Go Giants!
I agree with the Go Giants and I appreciate the overall sentiment. But I’m not having a bad anything. It was a beautiful Saturday with the kids and friends.
You opined about a stat, and later admitted you didn't know what the stat means. You thought "Yards Per Attempt" included sacks. Pretty huge L.
Sorry Mike but you’re wrong. I never thought it included sacks until after a AI query introduced that. My failure was in not fact checking and believing something I had just read.
I know you and others live for the validation so have at it. Feel big and proud of your accomplishment here. You even got + comment from your cliques eldest dickhead. Big things are happening for you!
You and I are probably around the same age, give or take a couple of years. You're just a moron. Besides, age isn't an insult. There is literally nothing about you to envy.