makes him exempt from intense scrutiny and questioning his ability? There are many, many legitimate questions about his abilities, and just as many excuses for him than you can shake a stick at.
The real question right now is what is the next excuse going to be for his next questionable performance.
Jones? Nothing, he deserves the scrunity.
BBI? For the love of Pete, just stop. The "look at me" postings of those that feel the need to constantly repeat the same criticisms is making this board boring.
If the team were really good and everyone just said positive things, would that also be boring?
This is a Giants message board. People are here to talk about the Giants. The Giants have sucked for a decade, so there is going to be a lot of conversation about how they suck.
You want to pretend they're good? Knock yourself out. Not everyone is going to do that.
Who are you talking to?
The team is not good, the QB is not good.
But continuing to say the same things over and over, make a person, not good.
Like you whining about other posters?
The same thing is said over and over because the same things are happening over and over. The Giants keep making the same mistakes, playing lousy football, and losing games.
You're getting angry at a weatherman in Phoenix telling you it's going to be sunny.
Yes, like me.
That's like stating that someone is intolerant because they speak out against racism.
Jones has not played yet in 2024, so can we let one or two games "play out?"
Also, I like it hot, if you don't like Phoenix...move.
And for all of those BBIers who opened a thread entitled "Darius Slayton Fires Back at Jets and Jones Critics" and were shocked and offended to read criticism of Daniel Jones, I've started this thread to kick Dave Gettleman.
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Don't get what there is to debate at this point? He hasn't played a meaningful snap in 10 months and the Giants made their decision to have him ne their starter. This is just venting and bitching at this point and has spammed the hell out of the site.
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makes him exempt from intense scrutiny and questioning his ability? There are many, many legitimate questions about his abilities, and just as many excuses for him than you can shake a stick at.
The real question right now is what is the next excuse going to be for his next questionable performance.
Jones? Nothing, he deserves the scrunity.
BBI? For the love of Pete, just stop. The "look at me" postings of those that feel the need to constantly repeat the same criticisms is making this board boring.
If the team were really good and everyone just said positive things, would that also be boring?
This is a Giants message board. People are here to talk about the Giants. The Giants have sucked for a decade, so there is going to be a lot of conversation about how they suck.
You want to pretend they're good? Knock yourself out. Not everyone is going to do that.
Who are you talking to?
The team is not good, the QB is not good.
But continuing to say the same things over and over, make a person, not good.
Like you whining about other posters?
The same thing is said over and over because the same things are happening over and over. The Giants keep making the same mistakes, playing lousy football, and losing games.
You're getting angry at a weatherman in Phoenix telling you it's going to be sunny.
Yes, like me.
That's like stating that someone is intolerant because they speak out against racism.
Jones has not played yet in 2024, so can we let one or two games "play out?"
Also, I like it hot, if you don't like Phoenix...move.
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Being consistently productive over a full season and then multiple seasons would help. So far in 5 years he's yet to come even close to that.
Stop expecting people to throw a parade when Jones poops on the potty once.
came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
Gives up a sack on a big third down in a couple of weeks, is he going to be immune from criticism? Are there going to be posters saying “stop criticizing Neal so much?”
If that's the only negative play of the day? No. Every tackle gives up sacks.
came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
Here's the flaw in your argument: you only issue one-way excuses.
Where's the grace extended to the Giants' OL and WRs for having to deal with the Giants' QBs? Right.
Also, that doesn't prove that DJ would be good BUT FOR the extenuating circumstances. It simply describes the situation, that's it. If we put you behind the Giants' OL with the Giants' WRs, you'd suck at QB also. But I bet we could put you behind the 1993 Cowboys OL, give you peak Randy Moss and Jerry Rice at WR, and you'd still suck at QB. There's no guarantee that the same isn't the case with DJ.
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
How do you only have a “bad OL” for 1 game?
Or maybe you should look at like Mahomes made the Super Bowl with a bad OL.
And what’s Jones excuse for his 3 college seasons because he didn’t do it then either
Is to pay Danjel Jones at least $40 M and guarantee is starting QB spot until we are absolutely 100% sure that he can't be an OK starting QB in the NFL.
To put a man in jail for life, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt."
To replace the Giants starting QB, the standard is higher, "beyond a shadow of a doubt."
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Yep. 100% truth...
My other favorite is, "well, he ALMOST threw 2 INT's..."
Yeah if my aunt had balls, he'd be my uncle....
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And seven TDs running for his life doesn’t count.
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Yep. 100% truth...
My other favorite is, "well, he ALMOST threw 2 INT's..."
Yeah if my aunt had balls, he'd be my uncle....
Is that any different than the fans who point out what DJ's stats would be if his ALMOST completions had found their target?
This attempt to act like the DJ enthusiasts have a high road to take here is comical.
And seven TDs running for his life doesn’t count.
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
Let me see if I can put this all in nice short words for you:
Even when we count those numbers, his overall statline was still mediocre.
I think BBI's focus on Jones is a direct reflection of how the game has developed to focus on QB.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
I mean you can still get hit as a QB. Jones is proof of that. Its not like the Giants are enjoying the luxury of a lot of personal fouls for roughing calls on jones.
But i agree with your post.
All this praise of Jones when he uses the doggie pad to pee like a good boy can be sickening. Guy was drafted sixth overall and some people want a pizza party every time he strings together two good games, which isnt often.
And seven TDs running for his life doesn’t count.
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
Let me see if I can put this all in nice short words for you:
Even when we count those numbers, his overall statline was still mediocre.
For context, in 15 games in 2022, Justin Fields threw 17 TDs and ran for 8.
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
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had great things to say about DJ.
But we have a member of BBI who says he talked to teammates of DJ and they want Lock or Cutlets playing.
IMO very hard to believe that.
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makes him exempt from intense scrutiny and questioning his ability? There are many, many legitimate questions about his abilities, and just as many excuses for him than you can shake a stick at.
The real question right now is what is the next excuse going to be for his next questionable performance.
Jones? Nothing, he deserves the scrunity.
BBI? For the love of Pete, just stop. The "look at me" postings of those that feel the need to constantly repeat the same criticisms is making this board boring.
If the team were really good and everyone just said positive things, would that also be boring?
This is a Giants message board. People are here to talk about the Giants. The Giants have sucked for a decade, so there is going to be a lot of conversation about how they suck.
You want to pretend they're good? Knock yourself out. Not everyone is going to do that.
Who are you talking to?
The team is not good, the QB is not good.
But continuing to say the same things over and over, make a person, not good.
Like you whining about other posters?
The same thing is said over and over because the same things are happening over and over. The Giants keep making the same mistakes, playing lousy football, and losing games.
You're getting angry at a weatherman in Phoenix telling you it's going to be sunny.
That's like stating that someone is intolerant because they speak out against racism.
Jones has not played yet in 2024, so can we let one or two games "play out?"
Also, I like it hot, if you don't like Phoenix...move.
If Daniel Jones plays good football, we'll all get enjoy both good football and fewer complaints about Daniel Jones.
Some us will be happy with that, and some of us will even get to say I told you so.
This is a win-win scenario.
That's a worthy use of time while you wait for things to play out.
Kick Dave Gettleman - ( New Window )
If someone said the rest of the players are sick of Evan Neal, nobody would bat an eye.
Jones plays the most important position on the team, he’s going to get talked about a lot good or bad. And for a majority of his career he’s been bad.
I wouldn't say that, lol.
We should all hope he plays well this year. Whether we like it or not he gives us the best chance to win this year.
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"The disdain has jumped the shark."
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
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makes him exempt from intense scrutiny and questioning his ability? There are many, many legitimate questions about his abilities, and just as many excuses for him than you can shake a stick at.
The real question right now is what is the next excuse going to be for his next questionable performance.
Jones? Nothing, he deserves the scrunity.
BBI? For the love of Pete, just stop. The "look at me" postings of those that feel the need to constantly repeat the same criticisms is making this board boring.
If the team were really good and everyone just said positive things, would that also be boring?
This is a Giants message board. People are here to talk about the Giants. The Giants have sucked for a decade, so there is going to be a lot of conversation about how they suck.
You want to pretend they're good? Knock yourself out. Not everyone is going to do that.
Who are you talking to?
The team is not good, the QB is not good.
But continuing to say the same things over and over, make a person, not good.
Like you whining about other posters?
The same thing is said over and over because the same things are happening over and over. The Giants keep making the same mistakes, playing lousy football, and losing games.
You're getting angry at a weatherman in Phoenix telling you it's going to be sunny.
Yes, like me.
That's like stating that someone is intolerant because they speak out against racism.
Jones has not played yet in 2024, so can we let one or two games "play out?"
Also, I like it hot, if you don't like Phoenix...move.
60 games have played out.
You really think two more tips the scales?
We should all hope he plays well this year. Whether we like it or not he gives us the best chance to win this year.
I find it disturbing that someone can put that much (120%) effort for so few results.
But maybe that's just it.
This is my OL and I'm going to support them. They're all super nice hard working kids and if you don't like them just stop watching the Giants.
Also, I like it hot, if you don't like Phoenix...move.
You can take your own advice and stop reading critical heads. After all you're the one whining.
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Being consistently productive over a full season and then multiple seasons would help. So far in 5 years he's yet to come even close to that.
Stop expecting people to throw a parade when Jones poops on the potty once.
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You really think two more tips the scales?
It might, or might not. We're all going to be watching on opening day to see.
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
Yes Jones threw 5 TDs once against Washington 5 YEARS ago
BUT
The post said 7-8 TDs in first two games
So I ask again, has Jones ever thrown 7-8 TDs over two games at any point in his career?
The answer is NO. He threw 1 TD pass in the game before and after the 5 TD game vs Washington
So even throwing 5 TDs in one single game, Jones couldn’t manage 7-8 TDs over any 2 games in 5 seasons
Ive got news for you as well
Daniel Jones never threw 7-8 TDs over any 2 games in college either
That’s 8 combined NCAA/NFL seasons and 96 games and he hasn’t thrown 7-8 TD passes over ANY two games
If that's the only negative play of the day? No. Every tackle gives up sacks.
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
Yes Jones threw 5 TDs once against Washington 5 YEARS ago
BUT
The post said 7-8 TDs in first two games
So I ask again, has Jones ever thrown 7-8 TDs over two games at any point in his career?
The answer is NO. He threw 1 TD pass in the game before and after the 5 TD game vs Washington
So even throwing 5 TDs in one single game, Jones couldn’t manage 7-8 TDs over any 2 games in 5 seasons
Ive got news for you as well
Daniel Jones never threw 7-8 TDs over any 2 games in college either
That’s 8 combined NCAA/NFL seasons and 96 games and he hasn’t thrown 7-8 TD passes over ANY two games
You've done excellent research. To prove a meaningless point.
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
Here's the flaw in your argument: you only issue one-way excuses.
Where's the grace extended to the Giants' OL and WRs for having to deal with the Giants' QBs? Right.
Also, that doesn't prove that DJ would be good BUT FOR the extenuating circumstances. It simply describes the situation, that's it. If we put you behind the Giants' OL with the Giants' WRs, you'd suck at QB also. But I bet we could put you behind the 1993 Cowboys OL, give you peak Randy Moss and Jerry Rice at WR, and you'd still suck at QB. There's no guarantee that the same isn't the case with DJ.
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You really think two more tips the scales?
It might, or might not. We're all going to be watching on opening day to see.
Fundamentally, two games does not outweigh 60. Full stop.
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came out smoking against two bad teams and threw 7-8 TD passes to start the year.
Has Daniel Jones thrown 7-8 TDs in any 2 game stretch in NFL or college?
He threw 5 TD's in one game. And I don't care that it was against the Redskins. Mahomes and Allen pad their stats against tomato cans, too.
They pad their stats more frequently than a half dozen times ever in their career.
Behind the Giants O line? Throwing to the Giants receivers? We saw the kind of stats Mahomes put up in the one game in his career with a bad O line. Zero TDs, 2 INTs, 26 for 49 for 270 yards (5.5 per attempt). 52.3 rating. And that's WITH Kelce and Hill!
How do you only have a “bad OL” for 1 game?
Or maybe you should look at like Mahomes made the Super Bowl with a bad OL.
And what’s Jones excuse for his 3 college seasons because he didn’t do it then either
To put a man in jail for life, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt."
To replace the Giants starting QB, the standard is higher, "beyond a shadow of a doubt."
He’s the QB right now. It is what it is. I’m going to give him a shot, but 2024 is it. He either sinks or swim. No more excuses this fall. None.
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You really think two more tips the scales?
It might, or might not. We're all going to be watching on opening day to see.
Fundamentally, two games does not outweigh 60. Full stop.
Wow. "Full Stop." That must mean something, to someone.
In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning. Outweigh? Who cares.
Who cares if they lose the next 10. 2 and 0 BABY!!!
Who cares if they lose the next 10. 2 and 0 BABY!!!
Another idiot.
He’s the QB right now. It is what it is. I’m going to give him a shot, but 2024 is it. He either sinks or swim. No more excuses this fall. None.
Refreshing to hear.
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You really think two more tips the scales?
It might, or might not. We're all going to be watching on opening day to see.
Fundamentally, two games does not outweigh 60. Full stop.
Wow. "Full Stop." That must mean something, to someone.
In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning. Outweigh? Who cares.
Do they if he plays poorly in 8 of the next 15?
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"The disdain has jumped the shark."
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Yep. 100% truth...
My other favorite is, "well, he ALMOST threw 2 INT's..."
Yeah if my aunt had balls, he'd be my uncle....
You knew what it meant, didn't you?
I guess that sort of indicates that it meant something to both of us, Bob.
My other favorite is, "well, he ALMOST threw 2 INT's..."
Yeah if my aunt had balls, he'd be my uncle....
Do you believe Daniel Jones will stay healthy and lead the Giants to championship contention?
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
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"The disdain has jumped the shark."
Richardson and the Colts proved Slayton's point. The clips this AM highlight his one good TD pass; but he was bloody awful other than that. If that were Jones he'd need a police escort to get to the stadium today.
Criticism is fine, but once more with feeling "The disdain has jumped the shark."
With all due respect re: Richardson, he's basically still a rookie...
Not so, nothing will shut up his critics. We know how it goes, (He played a bad D, the running game was great, Nabers made some great catches of bad passes, overthrew a sure TD, so much time in the pocket anybody could have made those passes, etc.)
Yep. 100% truth...
My other favorite is, "well, he ALMOST threw 2 INT's..."
Yeah if my aunt had balls, he'd be my uncle....
Is that any different than the fans who point out what DJ's stats would be if his ALMOST completions had found their target?
This attempt to act like the DJ enthusiasts have a high road to take here is comical.
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
Let me see if I can put this all in nice short words for you:
Even when we count those numbers, his overall statline was still mediocre.
It's so much easier to play quarterback today. You can't get hit, the pass targets can't get hit, and the pass targets can't get pushed around.
Because it's so easy now, there is a big homogenous chunk of QBs who are pretty good/good enough. So you see go up, and focus go up.
And now we're at the point where basically everyone has a pretty good quarterback, so if you don't it really stands out.
I mean you can still get hit as a QB. Jones is proof of that. Its not like the Giants are enjoying the luxury of a lot of personal fouls for roughing calls on jones.
But i agree with your post.
All this praise of Jones when he uses the doggie pad to pee like a good boy can be sickening. Guy was drafted sixth overall and some people want a pizza party every time he strings together two good games, which isnt often.
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And seven TDs running for his life doesn’t count.
Cause, they were not passing TDs, and he is only a 64+% passer for his career running for his life with less time to throw than any qb in football.
Let me see if I can put this all in nice short words for you:
Even when we count those numbers, his overall statline was still mediocre.
For context, in 15 games in 2022, Justin Fields threw 17 TDs and ran for 8.
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Do they if he plays poorly in 8 of the next 15?
Let’s come up with all sorts of scenarios. Dumb. Try to understand the point.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
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Wow. "Full Stop." That must mean something, to someone.
You knew what it meant, didn't you?
I guess that sort of indicates that it meant something to both of us, Bob.
Not really.