Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
If tom Brady averaged 6.6 yards per attempt it would be the second lowest mark of his 20 year career as a full time starter.
And this is *also* to mention that his career spans eras in the NFL where passing was not so prolific.
Desmond Ridder, a first-year starter, averaged 7.3
Tyrod Taylor, who everyone swears stinks, averaged 7.4 behind a line everyone agreed could not block and if they didn't upgrade it, would be a fireable offense.
Geno Smith, 7.3
Trevor Lawrence, 7.1
Kirk Cousins, 7.5
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
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In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
Can't we all just agree that starting 2-0 & Jones looking good vs. both the Vikes & WFT is the ideal outcome?
For the team? Sure.
And also even at his worst Jones looks incredible against washington, so it shouldn't be used as proof of concept. You take wins where you can get them though.
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Say we win the games like 17-16 and 20-17. Jones has 2 TDs, 1 pick, throws for his regular 7,200 inches per game, mostly on easy throws that travel 175-200 inches in the air.
It's fine. It's Jones being Jones. Does it help the franchise achieve anything? I guess we have to just "let the season play out" so to speak.
Yes, for the team, fan base, & Jones. As I posted earlier, Jones is the QB right now. A lot of us-myself included-aren't jazzed about that, but it is what it is.
Hopefully with a better OL & weapons, he morphs into something he's never been.
In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
Seems like you’re arguing semantics.
But again not sure how my question is dumb. Say they start 2-0 and are mediocre the rest of the way, do the previous 60 games mean less?
In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
Seems like you’re arguing semantics.
But again not sure how my question is dumb. Say they start 2-0 and are mediocre the rest of the way, do the previous 60 games mean less?
Yes they mean less. Actually, they don’t mean anything at all.
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Say we win the games like 17-16 and 20-17. Jones has 2 TDs, 1 pick, throws for his regular 7,200 inches per game, mostly on easy throws that travel 175-200 inches in the air.
That was a very good laugh. Well done.
BTW, I'm hoping Hyatt can have a breakout year with 60 grabs, 9,600 total inches/160 inches per catch.
I'd like to see Gano breaks his record for longest FG at 756 inches.
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Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Jones hasn’t had a good game in any form since (at best) Sept 17 2023 vs Cards and that was one half.
His last full game of good football was the Minnesota playoff game in January of 2023.
He hasn’t won 2 starts in a row since the Colts and Vikings In January of 2023
He has only started 2-0 in just 2 out of his 5 seasons and the other 3 times started 1-5.
How about we let Jones actually win a football game. Any football game first before we start talking about two wins.
What am I saying…how about we let Daniel Jones throw an actual TD pass in a football game first. Any football game. Preseason or regular season . He hasn’t thrown a TD pass in any game since Sept 17, 2003 despite 4 regular season starts and one preseason start.
Actually let me take that back, he has thrown TD passes since then. Two of them actually. Unfortunately they were to the other team.
So let’s Daniel Jones throw a TD pass to a member of his own team first. A task he hasn’t accomplished in over a year, since Sept 17, 2023 during 5 starts (4 regular season and 1 preseason) or in 8 halves of football or in 13.5 quarters of football.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yup and his 750 yds rushing
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Converting yards to inches was a very cool parlor trick that totally enlightened and owned everyone, your elementary school teachers would surely be very proud.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yup and his 750 yds rushing
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Btw I've never sucked any cocks, probably because I didn't know you or your father when I was a child.
For the record, you came at me. I simply responded to a post that I felt was dishonest. You and several others must’ve received your “somebody posted something in defense of Jones” alert and came running in….I guess you, Jerry, and Cowboy fan in DC are on duty tonight?
Btw, your breath reeks of cock, so you may not suck em, but I bet you’ll taste one from time to time.
The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
This is using a big word to sound smart. It is not 'intellectually dishonest'. What is intellectually dishonest is pretending the difference in his career YPA and Tom Brady's career YPA isn't very large.
As if you also don't have three years of Brian Daboll publicly calling for Daniel Jones to be more aggressive as a passer, or an entire 2024 preseason of 'throw the damn ball' downfield passing. Use your intellect and crack the code on why that is.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yup and his 750 yds rushing
The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
This is using a big word to sound smart. It is not 'intellectually dishonest'. What is intellectually dishonest is pretending the difference in his career YPA and Tom Brady's career YPA isn't very large.
As if you also don't have three years of Brian Daboll publicly calling for Daniel Jones to be more aggressive as a passer, or an entire 2024 preseason of 'throw the damn ball' downfield passing. Use your intellect and crack the code on why that is.
I stand by my comment. You said Jones is a career 6 ypa. It’s 6.6. Not a big difference? It’s about the same difference between Jones and Brady, which you just said is a big difference. So you use your intellect and tell me, were you being dishonest before or now?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Beyond that, Nabers looks to have the ability to force defenses into the coverages Daboll wants. That’s why he’s moving Nabers all around and they’re targeting him relentlessly. Jones and Nabers are going to have to earn it, no doubt. But once they show the ability to consistently execute, defenses will be forced to show their hand more often in an effort to take Nabers away.
This will help Jones with pre and post snap reads which is the key to “processing.” That’s when a QB can get through the progressions faster. That’s when WDR, Slayton, Hyatt start to make plays in 1 on 1s.
They have to earn it though and there’ll be mistakes early on. Hopefully they can manufacture some things with the run, screen, and pick/rub games until they start clicking.
Being a Giants fan. Jones played liked shit against the Texans. The media and social media can’t stop ridiculing Daniel Jones and the entire team. Then the secondary get annihilated by the Rodgers and Jets in basically the last training camp practice. I’m at the point where I feel like I have no excitement for the season. There’s really nothing to look forward to besides Nabers and a couple of the young players on the team.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Being a Giants fan. Jones played liked shit against the Texans. The media and social media can’t stop ridiculing Daniel Jones and the entire team. Then the secondary get annihilated by the Rodgers and Jets in basically the last training camp practice. I’m at the point where I feel like I have no excitement for the season. There’s really nothing to look forward to besides Nabers and a couple of the young players on the team.
Time to grow a nut sack.
It's a preseason dude. You can't tell anything either way. Let it play out, maybe the team will surprise you?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Are similar players either but those are his EXACT words.
Thats scary from a scouting/evaluation standpoint. They are the complete opposite of player, personality and mentality . McCarthy is pre-snap read, quick decision and risk taker QB who has played the highest level of football and won at HS & College with a very intense personality. The critics say he has just been surrounded by great talents and thats why he succeeds. His top end skills are all mental and personality. The dreamers of his talent have compd him to an early career Brady.
Jones is a one-read QB with excellent running skills who is known for checking down with a low key personality and has played at lower levels of football in HS & Duke. The defenders say he has just been surrounded by terrible talent everywhere and thats why he hasnt had great success or stats. His top end skill is all physical (running). The dreamers of his talent have compd him to Josh Allen.
Maybe McCarthy wont make it in the NFL or maybe injuries will take him downor maybe he was just surrounded by great talent but he certainly is a very different player and mentality than Jones.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Cool story. Still think it’s a shit stat to hang completely on the human throwing the ball. Too many other factors at play.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
Are you able to post anything other than your thoughts about guys sucking other guys’ cocks? It seems a little weird for a football forum. Did you log on to the wrong forum by mistake?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Are you able to post anything other than your thoughts about guys sucking other guys’ cocks? It seems a little weird for a football forum. Did you log on to the wrong forum by mistake?
Good morning Mike. So you drew morning duty huh? Does “The Mike” take over for you at some point later today?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
.
Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Holy shit you might be one of the stupidest human beings alive. Pass attempts do not include sacks you fucking moron.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
If tom Brady averaged 6.6 yards per attempt it would be the second lowest mark of his 20 year career as a full time starter.
And this is *also* to mention that his career spans eras in the NFL where passing was not so prolific.
Desmond Ridder, a first-year starter, averaged 7.3
Tyrod Taylor, who everyone swears stinks, averaged 7.4 behind a line everyone agreed could not block and if they didn't upgrade it, would be a fireable offense.
Geno Smith, 7.3
Trevor Lawrence, 7.1
Kirk Cousins, 7.5
So we could have a QB who is a mere 2 feet worse than Brady and have over $30 M to spend which would net us 1 Pro Bowl caliber player and 1 starter.
This is incredible. I have to go tell some people about this!
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In comment 16584904 Bob in VA said:
Do they if he plays poorly in 8 of the next 15?
Let’s come up with all sorts of scenarios. Dumb. Try to understand the point.
You said if he starts 2-0 it invalidates the first 60, that’s dumb.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
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In comment 16584927 ajr2456 said:
You said if he starts 2-0 it invalidates the first 60, that’s dumb.
No, I did not say that.
In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
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In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
For the team? Sure.
And also even at his worst Jones looks incredible against washington, so it shouldn't be used as proof of concept. You take wins where you can get them though.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
It's fine. It's Jones being Jones. Does it help the franchise achieve anything? I guess we have to just "let the season play out" so to speak.
Hopefully with a better OL & weapons, he morphs into something he's never been.
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In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
Seems like you’re arguing semantics.
But again not sure how my question is dumb. Say they start 2-0 and are mediocre the rest of the way, do the previous 60 games mean less?
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In reality, and you know this, if DJ plays well and the Giants start 2-0, those previous 60 games will have a lot less meaning
Why would they have less meaning after two games?
So obviously I didn’t say they would be invalidated. They would have less meaning in the eyes of fans because we would be optimistic about the future instead of complaining about the past. Unless all they’d want to do is complain about the past. A sentiment you’re familiar with.
Seems like you’re arguing semantics.
But again not sure how my question is dumb. Say they start 2-0 and are mediocre the rest of the way, do the previous 60 games mean less?
Yes they mean less. Actually, they don’t mean anything at all.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
lmao
That was a very good laugh. Well done.
BTW, I'm hoping Hyatt can have a breakout year with 60 grabs, 9,600 total inches/160 inches per catch.
I'd like to see Gano breaks his record for longest FG at 756 inches.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Jones hasn’t had a good game in any form since (at best) Sept 17 2023 vs Cards and that was one half.
His last full game of good football was the Minnesota playoff game in January of 2023.
He hasn’t won 2 starts in a row since the Colts and Vikings In January of 2023
He has only started 2-0 in just 2 out of his 5 seasons and the other 3 times started 1-5.
How about we let Jones actually win a football game. Any football game first before we start talking about two wins.
What am I saying…how about we let Daniel Jones throw an actual TD pass in a football game first. Any football game. Preseason or regular season . He hasn’t thrown a TD pass in any game since Sept 17, 2003 despite 4 regular season starts and one preseason start.
Actually let me take that back, he has thrown TD passes since then. Two of them actually. Unfortunately they were to the other team.
So let’s Daniel Jones throw a TD pass to a member of his own team first. A task he hasn’t accomplished in over a year, since Sept 17, 2023 during 5 starts (4 regular season and 1 preseason) or in 8 halves of football or in 13.5 quarters of football.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Converting yards to inches was a very cool parlor trick that totally enlightened and owned everyone, your elementary school teachers would surely be very proud.
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and he is only a 64+% passer
Because everything is short. You better damn well complete 64% of your 5-8 yard passes. Career average 6 YPA.
Tom Brady career YPA = 7.4
NFL Average YPA 2019-2023 = 7.1
Daniel Jones career YPA = 6.6
1 yard = 3 feet
We’re talking 18 inches less than league average and 28 inches less than Brady per attempt. Behind what most non obsessed viewers would agree has been a bottom 3 offensive line and throwing to a bottom 5 group of receivers.
My guy is breaking down yards into inches to defend Jones. Why don't you convert to metric and tell us how many millimeters.
(I love how the rebuttal to one of the most used QB stats is to break it down into inches and then argue it's not a lot of inches and feet. Lolllllllll.)
Don’t put words in my mouth guy.
Not defending anyone or anything. Simply illustrating the difference for perspective. The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
See how several posters couldn’t wait to pounce on someone for posting something they “deemed” to be in support of the Giants QB on a Giants message board? How dare thee.
Using Yards Per Attempt is not "intellectually dishonest," as it's one of the most common metrics used to evaluate quarterbacks, including how many yards their passes gain, which does of course help demonstrate that his completion percentage is inflated by throwing short passes.
Converting yards to inches when nobody ever does that evaluating this statistic is...clownish? Risible? Pathetic? Pick your adjective.
Hey it’s another sucker of cocks.
So you believe in the stat but only in the unit of measurement of your choice? Yes it’s a metric stat geeks use. If you believe that throwing passes on average of around 2 feet shorter leads to falsely inflated completion rates, well I guess that’s your right. I think a difference that small means nothing. Especially when it results from a myriad of factors beyond the actual human being throwing the football.
Btw I've never sucked any cocks, probably because I didn't know you or your father when I was a child.
This
Btw, your breath reeks of cock, so you may not suck em, but I bet you’ll taste one from time to time.
This is using a big word to sound smart. It is not 'intellectually dishonest'. What is intellectually dishonest is pretending the difference in his career YPA and Tom Brady's career YPA isn't very large.
As if you also don't have three years of Brian Daboll publicly calling for Daniel Jones to be more aggressive as a passer, or an entire 2024 preseason of 'throw the damn ball' downfield passing. Use your intellect and crack the code on why that is.
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The post I replied to implied Jones’ completion percentage is inflated by only throwing short passes. That’s intellectually dishonest.
This is using a big word to sound smart. It is not 'intellectually dishonest'. What is intellectually dishonest is pretending the difference in his career YPA and Tom Brady's career YPA isn't very large.
As if you also don't have three years of Brian Daboll publicly calling for Daniel Jones to be more aggressive as a passer, or an entire 2024 preseason of 'throw the damn ball' downfield passing. Use your intellect and crack the code on why that is.
I stand by my comment. You said Jones is a career 6 ypa. It’s 6.6. Not a big difference? It’s about the same difference between Jones and Brady, which you just said is a big difference. So you use your intellect and tell me, were you being dishonest before or now?
So a two read passing attack.
Processing issue solved.
This is what i think is going to happen
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
This will help Jones with pre and post snap reads which is the key to “processing.” That’s when a QB can get through the progressions faster. That’s when WDR, Slayton, Hyatt start to make plays in 1 on 1s.
They have to earn it though and there’ll be mistakes early on. Hopefully they can manufacture some things with the run, screen, and pick/rub games until they start clicking.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Time to grow a nut sack.
It's a preseason dude. You can't tell anything either way. Let it play out, maybe the team will surprise you?
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Thats scary from a scouting/evaluation standpoint. They are the complete opposite of player, personality and mentality . McCarthy is pre-snap read, quick decision and risk taker QB who has played the highest level of football and won at HS & College with a very intense personality. The critics say he has just been surrounded by great talents and thats why he succeeds. His top end skills are all mental and personality. The dreamers of his talent have compd him to an early career Brady.
Jones is a one-read QB with excellent running skills who is known for checking down with a low key personality and has played at lower levels of football in HS & Duke. The defenders say he has just been surrounded by terrible talent everywhere and thats why he hasnt had great success or stats. His top end skill is all physical (running). The dreamers of his talent have compd him to Josh Allen.
Maybe McCarthy wont make it in the NFL or maybe injuries will take him downor maybe he was just surrounded by great talent but he certainly is a very different player and mentality than Jones.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
If that is the case, then why does Jones have the same YPA in college? His 3 years starting were 6.6, 5.9 and 6.8 for a 6.4 career college average?
College is usually higher than the NFL. For example, McCarthy who people say just handed off and wasnt asked to do much had 9.2, 8.3 and 9.2 in college for a 8.7 ypa.
Jayden Daniels was 11.7 ypa last year
Kyler Murray the same draft year was 11.6 ypa and Drew Lock same draft year was 8.0 in their Senior year
Cool story. Still think it’s a shit stat to hang completely on the human throwing the ball. Too many other factors at play.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
Source?
More breaking g news at 11
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Good morning Mike. So you drew morning duty huh? Does “The Mike” take over for you at some point later today?
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
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Who said I talk to the players and they want Devito or Lock to play. Don't put that on me. I've never talked to any current Giants player.
I get 2nd hand info once in a long while that's from an impeccable source inside the organization. He's always 100% because he's involved in the process.
I don't know why they signed him to that contract. Don't know if that was because of Mara. I would never ask that. I do know that people inside the organization are down on him big time. The guys own word were "we are not picking JJ McCarthy because why would we want another Daniel Jones." Do the players believe in him? From what was I was told, everyone likes Daniel but no they don't think he's he's the guy
Sorry, wasn't trying to conflate you with AJR who said he talked to players at camp.
You just said "his teammates know it too" in response to someone saying the whole league knows he's bad in the deleted Sauce thread
No. It's my bad. Your correct.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
It’s impossible to be more wrong about basic statistic than you are, and somehow you keep doubling down on stupid.
A pass attempt is a pass attempt. Period.
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Ypa is a shit stat. It’s total yards/attempts including sacks. So QBs that get sacked a lot will have a lower average. Hopefully everyone here can agree that Jones has been sacked a lot. And spare me the slow processing response. The blocking has been garbage for a decade. That ain’t on Jones.
You’ll be surprised to learn that sacks are not accounted for in Y/A. As the slash between those two letters should make clear, it’s yards divided by attempts.
The average gain when Daniel Jones attempts a pass is 6.6 yards. Actually 6.585 but rounded up to 6.6.
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Source?
The source is math.
1900 attempts, 12,512 yards. I’d like to assume you can figure it out from there, what with the technology we all have at our disposal.
And those attempts include sacks…..meaning a throw never occurred. Do I have to continue or can I assume you can figure it out from there?
Attempts do not include sacks, dummy.
You’re wrong. Have a nice Saturday you miserable old fucker.
Holy shit you might be one of the stupidest human beings alive. Pass attempts do not include sacks you fucking moron.