Who knows if true, but he’s pretty connected within Boston sports, on his podcast he says Giants offered 2024 1, 2 and 3 AND says same thing for 2025. It’s a little unclear what he means by 2025 but indicates also at least 1 and 2 as he says maybe pats could have had a 2026 pick too.
Again, who knows if it’s true but I haven’t heard they offered that much.
This is on his NFC over / under podcast when discussing the giants around 20 minute mark.
^^^ This. And I doubt the offer was that high. But even if close, it was good, except as you said, the Patriots were far worse than the Giants.
The Pats would’ve been dumb to pass up Maye, and they aren’t.
I think there as been too much smoke around the supposed trade offer to the Pats for me to deny that Schoen is looking to upgrade the qb and wasn't just 'checking in' to see what the cost was. Regardless, information like this isn't verified as fact.
Exactly. The Pats never really wanted to trade the pick.
I don't mind not getting the trade done, takes two to tango right?
But for plan B to just be running it back with Jones after not being able to make a trade is what I have an issue with
Sucks but oh well. At least we did get a player that looks like a total stud.
Pats weren't trading that pick for 5 1s. And we know the same whining assholes Are dying to post how great the 2nd tier guys are even when they got 17 for 30 w 2 INTs.
And if Maye is great they won't admit that Schoen offered enough anyway.
So you are saying that Garofolo and Rappaport are also lying saying that JS offered 2 number ones and a number three?
Seems like you are really trying to hold on to a narrative despite multiple sources saying we did make a good offer
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I can't wait to see the responses from thise crying over Schoen not doing enough to get a QB.
I don't mind not getting the trade done, takes two to tango right?
But for plan B to just be running it back with Jones after not being able to make a trade is what I have an issue with
Because you don't do something just to do something...
Sounds more like what the Patriots would have needed to move out of that spot. And when you consider that the Giants ultimately drafted zero QBs, it's hard to believe they would have given up all of those picks for Maye but none of their own picks on JJM, Penix, Nix or even a later round developmental QB.
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I can't wait to see the responses from thise crying over Schoen not doing enough to get a QB.
So then if they couldn’t get any of the QB’s they they wanted…then that was their back up plan…what do you think they should have done?
I don't mind not getting the trade done, takes two to tango right?
But for plan B to just be running it back with Jones after not being able to make a trade is what I have an issue with
Remember that next time a team going nowhere wins a few meaningless late season games with a meme QB and people go apeshit and call you a bad fan if you're not on board with it.
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I can't wait to see the responses from thise crying over Schoen not doing enough to get a QB.
So then if they couldn’t get any of the QB’s they they wanted…then that was their back up plan…what do you think they should have done?
I don't mind not getting the trade done, takes two to tango right?
But for plan B to just be running it back with Jones after not being able to make a trade is what I have an issue with
Sorry for the multiple post
If they couldn’t get any of the QB’s they wanted…that was their back up plan
What do you think they should have done?
The Pats would’ve been dumb to pass up Maye, and they aren’t.
It was “smart” to not accept an offer of FIVE additional picks - and the top picks a team could offer at that - to move back three spots? Wow.
I don't believe Giants are 'all in' on DJ, but think they have more belief than most of BBI.
err..... NOW a huge fan...
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first three teams all needed QBs and liked the same guys. NE needed a QB for the next decade and if they got one, he's worth more even than that offer.
Remember that next time a team going nowhere wins a few meaningless late season games with a meme QB and people go apeshit and call you a bad fan if you're not on board with it.
I hear ya. Myself, I can't help but have fun when the Giants win. In my head, I know that better draft position gets us a QB but in my heart...
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The Giants were clearly not ready to move on from Jones yet. It'd very obvious now in hindsight.
So you are saying that Garofolo and Rappaport are also lying saying that JS offered 2 number ones and a number three?
Seems like you are really trying to hold on to a narrative despite multiple sources saying we did make a good offer
You are moving from thread to thread trying to defend your belief but at the end of the day, Drake Maye is not a Giant and their QB room got worse, not better.
Those are just the facts.
I have no doubt the Giants made an offer for Maye. I just don’t believe it was the strongest offer. Certainly not the one Simmons is claiming.
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it was correspondingly smart not to accept it too.
The Pats would’ve been dumb to pass up Maye, and they aren’t.
It was “smart” to not accept an offer of FIVE additional picks - and the top picks a team could offer at that - to move back three spots? Wow.
It’s not “three spots” it’s the difference between getting a top QB prospect or not. Wouldn’t matter if it were one spot or twenty.
We know four hours before the draft, Wolf and Schoen exchange some broad parameters. In this conversation there's no reference to a standing offer of two year's worth of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. In fact Wolf comes out and says it would take something like that.
And we're to believe Schoen subsequently made an offer like that, and HBO decided not to include that dramatic moment in the program? That would have been the most compelling piece of offseason footage this decade.
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The Giants were clearly not ready to move on from Jones yet. It'd very obvious now in hindsight.
So you are saying that Garofolo and Rappaport are also lying saying that JS offered 2 number ones and a number three?
Seems like you are really trying to hold on to a narrative despite multiple sources saying we did make a good offer
You are moving from thread to thread trying to defend your belief but at the end of the day, Drake Maye is not a Giant and their QB room got worse, not better.
Those are just the facts.
I have no doubt the Giants made an offer for Maye. I just don’t believe it was the strongest offer. Certainly not the one Simmons is claiming.
I would say the offer that both Garofolo and Rappaport reported was a strong offer and that offer would dispel the notion that you claimed that they are all in on Jones
If they were all in…then no offer would even taken place for a player who they just signed to an extension the previous year
I believe JS know he F-ed up with the extension which is why they spent so much time in season last year and this off season heavy scouting QB’s…then had discussions with New England
How is that obvious?
I think Garofolo is the best in that biz
He along with Rappaport both reported we offered our number 1 this year and next year and a number 3 this year
How is that obvious?
I think Garofolo is the best in that biz
He along with Rappaport both reported we offered our number 1 this year and next year and a number 3 this year
Can you point me to that reporting?
If you watched Hard Knocks, it was crystal clear Schoen was Garafolo's source during the offseason.
He may be right...
But he's still butthurt over the Giants ruining the Pats perfect season.
I'm sure he was penning the epilogue of his book prior to the SB.
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Obviously Garafolo is Schoen's guy. What did he report the Giants offered?
How is that obvious?
I think Garofolo is the best in that biz
He along with Rappaport both reported we offered our number 1 this year and next year and a number 3 this year
Can you point me to that reporting?
If you watched Hard Knocks, it was crystal clear Schoen was Garafolo's source during the offseason.
I am not on twitter….it was posted here during draft time
See Eric’s post