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Adoree' Jackson Visiting Giants Today

EddieNYG : 8/30/2024 9:13 am
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Sources: The #Giants brought in CB Adoree' Jackson for a physical today and negotiations are underway on a deal to bring him back. A deal is not done, but the two sides are very interested.

The Giants have been looking to add another viable corner.

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I hope he’ll be more motivated than last year  
cosmicj : 8/30/2024 9:14 am : link
If he’s signed.
Prefer Witherspoon.  
Capt. Don : 8/30/2024 9:15 am : link
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I would feel much better  
Breeze_94 : 8/30/2024 9:17 am : link
With Adoree at CB2. He was one of their better defensive players in 2022 when he was on the field
I'm up and down on this one  
Biteymax22 : 8/30/2024 9:17 am : link
On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.
He mailed it in last year  
BlueHurricane : 8/30/2024 9:17 am : link
But would take 2022 Adoree
RE: I hope he’ll be more motivated than last year  
Toth029 : 8/30/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16591379 cosmicj said:
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If he’s signed.


If signed, all be guaranteed it's a one year deal and he can make money next year coming off a good season.

The league saw his play in 2023 and effort late in the season. It is his own fault, so sign on somewhere and prove yourself.
Obvious reservations about his play last year  
Blue Baas : 8/30/2024 9:19 am : link
Still an upgrade and knows the scheme day 1, probably cheap... makes sense.
RE: RE: I hope he’ll be more motivated than last year  
Biteymax22 : 8/30/2024 9:19 am : link
In comment 16591386 Toth029 said:
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If he’s signed.



If signed, all be guaranteed it's a one year deal and he can make money next year coming off a good season.

The league saw his play in 2023 and effort late in the season. It is his own fault, so sign on somewhere and prove yourself.


I'm very much hoping that by not landing a long term deal he learned a lesson
Gotta think he  
jvm52106 : 8/30/2024 9:20 am : link
knows he needs to perform and overall I can live with this. Plus, he knows Flott, McCloud etc - a better pass rush makes a playmaker at CB even more valuable.
Adoree is all of 28 years old so he’s not old  
cosmicj : 8/30/2024 9:20 am : link
That tape he put down in 2023 must have turned off a lot of pro scouts because he clearly wants to work and was sitting at home the whole summer, showing a total lack of interest in a league always looking for secondary talent. I thought his play was really good in 2022 and he’s an established NFL player. Hope he’s learned something from mailing it in last season.
One year show me deal?  
logman : 8/30/2024 9:22 am : link
Sure. I don't like that he dragged ass last season, but that might have been related to the Martindale shit. Who knows?

I'm good with this  
Kevin in Annapolis : 8/30/2024 9:23 am : link
He'll be an improvement over what we have, and if he plays at 2022 levels, a significant improvement
RE: I'm up and down on this one  
Pepe LePugh : 8/30/2024 9:23 am : link
In comment 16591384 Biteymax22 said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.

Bitey
Not sure about knowing the system. Same DB coach, yes, but new DC is changing schemes and philosophy. Still agree he would be an upgrade.
Glad this is happening  
The Mike : 8/30/2024 9:26 am : link
Hopefully we will be getting vintage Adoree this year.
Dual role ?  
Eman11 : 8/30/2024 9:26 am : link
Now that he wouldn’t be our #1 CB, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them using him returning punts.
After he dogged it last year?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 8/30/2024 9:27 am : link
Jeez, where are the standards?
RE: I'm up and down on this one  
sb from NYT Forum : 8/30/2024 9:28 am : link
In comment 16591384 Biteymax22 said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.


Agree. On the positive, he knows the systems. On the negative, he sucks.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/30/2024 9:29 am : link
I’m cool with this if it’s the 22 Adoree.
Jackson  
Toth029 : 8/30/2024 9:29 am : link
Played under Bowen and his playcalling in 2020, although he did only play a couple of games due to injuries. He signed in NYG when they had Pat Graham who also flew under the heavy zone umbrella. He can play both.
RE: RE: I'm up and down on this one  
armstead98 : 8/30/2024 9:30 am : link
In comment 16591396 Pepe LePugh said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.


Bitey
Not sure about knowing the system. Same DB coach, yes, but new DC is changing schemes and philosophy. Still agree he would be an upgrade.


Is it the same scheme as when he was in Tennessee?
Jackson  
Archer : 8/30/2024 9:30 am : link
Can Jackson play in a zone scheme?
RE: After he dogged it last year?  
John In CO : 8/30/2024 9:33 am : link
In comment 16591402 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Jeez, where are the standards?


Yeah, I guess id prefer to sign a superstar corner too, but as it is, got to find someone whos is a) available and b) shows some interest in signing with the team. Standards go out the window when there is a huge need. It is what it is.
RE: RE: RE: I'm up and down on this one  
Biteymax22 : 8/30/2024 9:34 am : link
In comment 16591409 armstead98 said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.


Bitey
Not sure about knowing the system. Same DB coach, yes, but new DC is changing schemes and philosophy. Still agree he would be an upgrade.



Is it the same scheme as when he was in Tennessee?


Bowen took over for Pees the year after Adoree left, but was on staff when Adoree was there and runs a similar scheme to Pees, so Adoree has played in it and should have a short learning curve.
RE: RE: After he dogged it last year?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 8/30/2024 9:36 am : link
In comment 16591415 John In CO said:
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Jeez, where are the standards?



Yeah, I guess id prefer to sign a superstar corner too, but as it is, got to find someone whos is a) available and b) shows some interest in signing with the team. Standards go out the window when there is a huge need. It is what it is.


So no standards, great way to assemble a team. All part of the plan Im sure.
In 2020, the Titans  
Toth029 : 8/30/2024 9:36 am : link
Or Mike Vrabel, that is, didn't name a DC but they did have Shane Bowen (the OLB coach) call plays. But again, injuries shortened his season.
RE: Jackson  
Racer : 8/30/2024 9:38 am : link
In comment 16591411 Archer said:
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Can Jackson play in a zone scheme?


Sure doesn't seem like a Bowen player. There was a period where the eye test said he was willing to attack his run fits, but that more or less disappeared as many have pointed out.
RE: Adoree is all of 28 years old so he’s not old  
Reale01 : 8/30/2024 9:38 am : link
In comment 16591391 cosmicj said:
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That tape he put down in 2023 must have turned off a lot of pro scouts because he clearly wants to work and was sitting at home the whole summer, showing a total lack of interest in a league always looking for secondary talent. I thought his play was really good in 2022 and he’s an established NFL player. Hope he’s learned something from mailing it in last season.


IIRC He CAN tackle and was one of the few who showed up for the Philly playoff game. "Business Decisions" are not cool, but there may be more to that story that we don't know - like shoulder injury.
contract with incentives would make sense for both sides  
Heisenberg : 8/30/2024 9:39 am : link
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Adoree  
stretch234 : 8/30/2024 9:43 am : link
Him mailing it in last year still puts him better than half the league, which shows you the state of NFL CB play

If motivated like a couple of years ago to try and get another payday - you get a 1CB

Big question to answer however
Almost seems like  
M.S. : 8/30/2024 9:48 am : link
an act of desperation, or panic.
RE: Jackson  
k2tampa : 8/30/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16591405 Toth029 said:
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Played under Bowen and his playcalling in 2020, although he did only play a couple of games due to injuries. He signed in NYG when they had Pat Graham who also flew under the heavy zone umbrella. He can play both.


Bowen wasn't the DC in 2020, it was mainly Vrabel who handled that. Bowen did make the defensive calls.
Jackson  
GF1080 : 8/30/2024 9:56 am : link
We haven't shown one iota of interest in bringing Adoree back until now so seems really desperate from Schoen when he looks at the CB situation. Honestly don't think it's a good look but hopefully if we get him back he plays more like 2 years ago and not the toast he was last year.
RE: Almost seems like  
bceagle05 : 8/30/2024 9:56 am : link
In comment 16591435 M.S. said:
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an act of desperation, or panic.

Yup.
Call it what you will  
mittenedman : 8/30/2024 9:58 am : link
It upgrades the defense. Nobody stepped up and seized that CB2 spot.

It does, however, reinforce the idea that Schoen is struggling with his drafts.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on his 1st 2 drafts as he didn't have his personnel department in place, but it bares watching.
RE: RE: Almost seems like  
Jim in Forest Hills : 8/30/2024 9:58 am : link
In comment 16591447 bceagle05 said:
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an act of desperation, or panic.


Yup.


I mean, what else can it be?
RE: I'm up and down on this one  
AcidTest : 8/30/2024 9:59 am : link
In comment 16591384 Biteymax22 said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.


Agreed. I said a few weeks ago that I would be really surprised if they brought back Jackson, but their willingness to do so shows what they think of the current state of our CBs after Banks. Despite his performance last year, generating no interest from any other teams, and not being in camp, they still think Jackson is a better #2 CB than anyone else on the roster right now. More proof is that they signed two CBs to the PS. They obviously have little confidence in McCloud, Flott, or Hawkins to be the starting #2 CB, at least right now.

A one year deal with incentives might work, assuming Jackson is motivated by the lack of interest from other teams. And as someone said, he's still only 28.
Whatever  
Bernie : 8/30/2024 10:00 am : link
His first instinct will be to avoid contact and then he will inevitably get hurt.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm up and down on this one  
bluefin : 8/30/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16591416 Biteymax22 said:
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In comment 16591396 Pepe LePugh said:


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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.


Bitey
Not sure about knowing the system. Same DB coach, yes, but new DC is changing schemes and philosophy. Still agree he would be an upgrade.



Is it the same scheme as when he was in Tennessee?



Bowen took over for Pees the year after Adoree left, but was on staff when Adoree was there and runs a similar scheme to Pees, so Adoree has played in it and should have a short learning curve.

sounds good
Isn't Kadarius Toney available?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 8/30/2024 10:01 am : link
Dont we need a Punt returner?
This is good to hear  
Metnut : 8/30/2024 10:02 am : link
I'm sure he'd admit he made some mistakes with how he approached last year and this offseason has to have been really humbling for him.

A motivated (28 year old Jackson) with something to prove and trying to put together 17 games of good tape to get paid is a pretty nice add at this point when the price is likely peanuts.

We should expect at least a low-end legitimate CB2 with upside for better.
Jackson  
JoeyBigBlue : 8/30/2024 10:04 am : link
Sucked last season. I guess they don’t have many options available.
RE: Dual role ?  
Fred-in-Florida : 8/30/2024 10:04 am : link
In comment 16591401 Eman11 said:
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Now that he wouldn’t be our #1 CB, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them using him returning punts.

That’s how he got hurt in 22. Shouldn’t have had him back there in the first place.
Makes too much...  
2ndroundKO : 8/30/2024 10:04 am : link
sense and I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier although I suspect they stayed in contact with Adoree, kept this in their backpocket and then let the offseason play out. When they couldn't nab a CB, they let the young guys (who need more reps in camp) work and now you bring in a still young veteran, a guy familiar with the culture and experienced enough to adapt to any scheme.

I like it and I don't think it's desperation at all. Well planned, actually. As far as Adoree making business decisions, perhaps he's just a better cover corner than tackler. Not ideal but a lot of good CBs are like that. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dealing with something. He may not be a big hitter but he was certainly willing to stick his nose in there. Not sure what happened.

This is great. No, it's not a top tier CB but at his best, Jackson is pretty darn good and has a lot of incentive to be so again.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2024 10:05 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Didn’t see this coming. Did not hear very favorable reviews from inside the organization on Jackson’s play after last season
RE: RE: I'm up and down on this one  
SirLoinOfBeef : 8/30/2024 10:05 am : link
In comment 16591451 AcidTest said:
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In comment 16591384 Biteymax22 said:


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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.



Agreed. I said a few weeks ago that I would be really surprised if they brought back Jackson, but their willingness to do so shows what they think of the current state of our CBs after Banks. Despite his performance last year, generating no interest from any other teams, and not being in camp, they still think Jackson is a better #2 CB than anyone else on the roster right now. More proof is that they signed two CBs to the PS. They obviously have little confidence in McCloud, Flott, or Hawkins to be the starting #2 CB, at least right now.

A one year deal with incentives might work, assuming Jackson is motivated by the lack of interest from other teams. And as someone said, he's still only 28.


29 Sept. 18.

Not a fan if it happens  
SirLoinOfBeef : 8/30/2024 10:07 am : link
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Maybe it was him and Wink not getting along, but I'd be amazed if he played hard ever again.

Reality has had to hit home on AJ  
TheMick7 : 8/30/2024 10:08 am : link
No offers during the off season, none during the camps,season one week away. Perhaps he'll come into camp willing to adjust/do whatever it takes to be part of the secondary. The talent was always there, it was the effort & ego that seemed to get into the way. Let's hope he's reformed!
Beggars can’t be choosers  
AcesUp : 8/30/2024 10:08 am : link
That applies to both Adoree and the Giants.
RE: This is good to hear  
2ndroundKO : 8/30/2024 10:10 am : link
In comment 16591455 Metnut said:
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I'm sure he'd admit he made some mistakes with how he approached last year and this offseason has to have been really humbling for him.

A motivated (28 year old Jackson) with something to prove and trying to put together 17 games of good tape to get paid is a pretty nice add at this point when the price is likely peanuts.

We should expect at least a low-end legitimate CB2 with upside for better.

Should be noted that he played in the slot last year and clearly wasn't very good. He's better suited for the perimeter.
RE: RE: I'm up and down on this one  
DonQuixote : 8/30/2024 10:10 am : link
In comment 16591403 sb from NYT Forum said:
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.

On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.



Agree. On the positive, he knows the systems. On the negative, he sucks.


What makes you guys think he knows the system. He was here two years ago under a different DC
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