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| @Schultz_Report Sources: The #Giants brought in CB Adoree' Jackson for a physical today and negotiations are underway on a deal to bring him back. A deal is not done, but the two sides are very interested. The Giants have been looking to add another viable corner. |
If he comes back, I don't see him getting #22 from Dru Phillips. His old number with the Titans, #25, seems to be available. He wore #2 with USC, in the event he can get that from Lock.
Kind of sad that we are beggars. I was hoping that Flott would be able to make the move to CB2 but I guess with his injury in camp the coaches don't feel confident in him.
I think you can seriously question Schoen's decisions here. Based on Hard Knocks, he was banking on a starting-quality outside CB being available in the 2nd round. When does that ever happen?
And then based on the beats' reports, he was hoping that a CB would be available after cut day, but that seems risky as well. And of course nothing materialized.
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On the positives, he knows the system so will catch on fast and he's a better cover guy at the 2 than anyone on our roster right now.
On the negative, boy did he make a lot of business decisions last year and he sure doesn't care about supporting in the run game.
Agree. On the positive, he knows the systems. On the negative, he sucks.
What makes you guys think he knows the system. He was here two years ago under a different DC
Where was he before the Giants?
they thought adoree was worth like 11m in new money last year, and he was voted a captain.
he had a terrible season but unless he completely turned into a pumpkin there's got to me some upside there and on a 1 year cheap deal there is no risk.
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Now that he wouldn’t be our #1 CB, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them using him returning punts.
That’s how he got hurt in 22. Shouldn’t have had him back there in the first place.
I agree about in 22 but he’s a good returner and things have changed with our DB’s since then. We have a CB1 in Banks.
I was just wondering if this was part of their interest now.
Beggars? Jackson is at the top of a group that -- like RBs last year -- has an unusual glut of top talent. If the Giants sign him, it'll be a win-win: he'll get paid "market" which will be far less than had we signed him back in March.
And I think with our new Alpha Dog Burns Adoree won't be making business decisions. The gestalt is different now.
And if that's the case, the secondary goes from questionable and certain early weakness to strengh.
Just smart business and roster planning by the Giants.
Check out today's podcast (shameless plug).
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That applies to both Adoree and the Giants.
Beggars? Jackson is at the top of a group that -- like RBs last year -- has an unusual glut of top talent. If the Giants sign him, it'll be a win-win: he'll get paid "market" which will be far less than had we signed him back in March.
And I think with our new Alpha Dog Burns Adoree won't be making business decisions. The gestalt is different now.
And if that's the case, the secondary goes from questionable and certain early weakness to strengh.
Just smart business and roster planning by the Giants.
Is this some dry humor Im not familiar with? Like is this a prank?
For the record, I like the signing.
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We’ve got six CBs. Does one of them go. Hawkins, Flott, McCoud, Simmons? Someone else?
Check out today's podcast (shameless plug).
My guess would be Simmons to the PS.
For the record, I like the signing.
For sure. I didn't say Adoree wasn't (figuratively) a beggar :)
But the Giants aren't.
they thought adoree was worth like 11m in new money last year, and he was voted a captain.
he had a terrible season but unless he completely turned into a pumpkin there's got to me some upside there and on a 1 year cheap deal there is no risk.
I am one of the few here who think he really wasn't all that great in 2022. He wasn't tested because the Giants threw out dreck at CB2, but I don't agree that he was the defensive MVP. I would say that would be McKinney before be fucked his hand up.
Jackson played well against the Titans in game 1, but he had a lot of stinkers too. He was flat-out bad against Dallas and Seattle. Geno Smith (!!!) torched him.
Jackson Advanced Stats 2022 Gamelog- Pro Football Reference. - ( New Window )
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witherspoon had 1 better year bc jackson was terrible last year, but adoree was the teams defensive mvp in 2022.
they thought adoree was worth like 11m in new money last year, and he was voted a captain.
he had a terrible season but unless he completely turned into a pumpkin there's got to me some upside there and on a 1 year cheap deal there is no risk.
I am one of the few here who think he really wasn't all that great in 2022. He wasn't tested because the Giants threw out dreck at CB2, but I don't agree that he was the defensive MVP. I would say that would be McKinney before be fucked his hand up.
Jackson played well against the Titans in game 1, but he had a lot of stinkers too. He was flat-out bad against Dallas and Seattle. Geno Smith (!!!) torched him. Jackson Advanced Stats 2022 Gamelog- Pro Football Reference. - ( New Window )
every corner in the NFL gets beat occasionally. do you remember what justin jefferson did the first time they played MIN without him and what he did the second time they played?
hawkins is the easy call imo. he is a practice squad player.
i forgot that they put him in the nickel last year. certainly at least in part explains his poor season (along with some business decisions when things went south). hopefully back on the outside he can get back to playing well.
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witherspoon had 1 better year bc jackson was terrible last year, but adoree was the teams defensive mvp in 2022.
they thought adoree was worth like 11m in new money last year, and he was voted a captain.
he had a terrible season but unless he completely turned into a pumpkin there's got to me some upside there and on a 1 year cheap deal there is no risk.
I am one of the few here who think he really wasn't all that great in 2022. He wasn't tested because the Giants threw out dreck at CB2, but I don't agree that he was the defensive MVP. I would say that would be McKinney before be fucked his hand up.
Jackson played well against the Titans in game 1, but he had a lot of stinkers too. He was flat-out bad against Dallas and Seattle. Geno Smith (!!!) torched him. Jackson Advanced Stats 2022 Gamelog- Pro Football Reference. - ( New Window )
every corner in the NFL gets beat occasionally. do you remember what justin jefferson did the first time they played MIN without him and what he did the second time they played?
Good point, thanks.
But playing Jackson who sucks anyway, has little interest in making tough tackles and has no future value...what for?
Adding him back to the roster is bad business.
Because it's a shitty outcome, not a good one.
The amount of premium draft picks that the Giants have spend on DBs in the past 10 years is mind-boggling.
They did replace him. He's coming back as CB2, not CB1.
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very disappointing situation given it's been two years or so since they decided to begin replacing him.
They did replace him. He's coming back as CB2, not CB1.
Shouldn't be back at all.
That’s what I thought.
It's less than a week before the first games start and Adoree is looking for work. That's why he wants to come back. The Giants CBs are a candidate to be the very worst in the NFL. That's why the Giants might be interested in a 28-year old available for peanuts who played like a borderline CB1 only two years ago.
Everyone is aware of what happened last year. When it's 3rd and 7 and we all want the D to get off the field and give our pass rush a chance, I think AJ is worth a shot considering everyone else NYG there has other than Banks.
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They'll draft a cb next year high
The amount of premium draft picks that the Giants have spend on DBs in the past 10 years is mind-boggling.
+1. Remember taking Sam Beal in the third round of the supplemental draft?
You'll take shit on BBI, from someone, for saying anything -- especially anything positive about a current or to-be Giant whose not am 11-time All Pro or ever made a bad play.
I don't know if this has been confirmed, but I think Hawkins starting was mostly due to Martindale.
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This staff put him in as a STARTER. He was clearly not ready, still looks clueless out there. They should get some shit for that. WTF were they seeing?
I don't know if this has been confirmed, but I think Hawkins starting was mostly due to Martindale.
Why should they get shit? He impressed in camp. They played him. He didn't rise to the occasion (in his defense, neither did anyone else except Okereke). They benched him. Quickly.
Good job by the staff.
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They'll draft a cb next year high
The amount of premium draft picks that the Giants have spend on DBs in the past 10 years is mind-boggling.
how do you say that. Are the Giants picking more DB's than other teams with "premium picks". Every year there are like 6 db's drafted in the first round. News flash -- It is a premium position.
I like it and I don't think it's desperation at all. Well planned, actually. As far as Adoree making business decisions, perhaps he's just a better cover corner than tackler. Not ideal but a lot of good CBs are like that. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dealing with something. He may not be a big hitter but he was certainly willing to stick his nose in there. Not sure what happened.
This is great. No, it's not a top tier CB but at his best, Jackson is pretty darn good and has a lot of incentive to be so again.
I have always been an Adoree' Jackson fan and you have laid out a plausible scenario. It would be nice if everything plays out just the way you describe it.
But I don't believe it will. Why? Because your scenario just sounds like everything surrounding Adoree' Jackson has been tied up into a neat little bow. And that's just not real life when it comes to the NFL, especially for guys who have been on the couch and have missed training camp in its entirety. It is also difficult to believe that -- at this stage in his career -- Jackson is going to do a 180 from last season's horrid performance.
I know those names are arbitrary and useless, but as a fan of a certain age adding an old guy at DB just before the season starts invites a certain kind of nostalgia.
Best of luck to Adoree if he signs.
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We’ve got six CBs. Does one of them go. Hawkins, Flott, McCoud, Simmons? Someone else?
Check out today's podcast (shameless plug).
I know those names are arbitrary and useless, but as a fan of a certain age adding an old guy at DB just before the season starts invites a certain kind of nostalgia.
Best of luck to Adoree if he signs.
28 is old?
I know those names are arbitrary and useless, but as a fan of a certain age adding an old guy at DB just before the season starts invites a certain kind of nostalgia.
Best of luck to Adoree if he signs.
This!
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They'll draft a cb next year high
The amount of premium draft picks that the Giants have spend on DBs in the past 10 years is mind-boggling.
Spending the picks isn’t the issue alone, in today’s NFL DB is a need for almost every team every year
It’s the whiffing on picks, or failing to develop them or both (at all positions) that’s killed the Giants the past decade