NFT: Mets Minor League Updates (September)

Will Sammon
@WillSammon
Mets officially added Young and Reyes. On the position player side, there isn’t a glaring need and there aren’t many ABs up for grabs. So I can see the point in carrying someone with ML experience whom you just trust to make a play if you end up needing to call on him.

Here are the links to the previous five months:

NFT: Mets Minor League Discussion (August) - DanMetroMan - 8/1/2024 8:38 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (July) - DanMetroMan - 7/1/2024 10:17 am

NFT: Mets Minor League Thread (June) - DanMetroMan - 6/1/2024 10:45 am

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am

In comment 16592830 DanMetroMan said:

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Will Sammon @WillSammon Mets officially added Young and Reyes. On the position player side, there isn’t a glaring need and there aren’t many ABs up for grabs. So I can see the point in carrying someone with ML experience whom you just trust to make a play if you end up needing to call on him.

Makes sense. Mets' bench is deep AF now.

.@SyracuseMets TBD Sproat? (If it's Sproat expect a very short outing as they have done with Tuesday/Sunday starters)
@RumblePoniesBB Jordan Geber
@BKCyclones Felipe De La Cruz
@stluciemets Jorge De Leon #Mets

"For Acuña, he's just got to continue to play. There's not gonna be many starts here and it's important for his development to continue to play every day"

Carlos Mendoza was asked about the Mets calling up Pablo Reyes over someone like Luisangel Acuña:

Ewing 0-1, Roselli 1-1 (bunt single), Benge 0-1, K, Serrano BB, Houck 0-1 K (truly a season to forget for Houck) #Mets

.@stluciemets
Ewing 1-2 (2 rbi)
Roselli 1-2
Benge 0-1, K
Serrano 0-0, BB
Houck 0-1, K
Snyder 0-1, K
Long 1-1 #Mets

.@RumblePoniesBB
Williams 0-1
Clifford 1-1 (5 for his last 6)
Ramirez 1-1, 2b
Parada 1-1
Geber 1 perfect 1 k #Mets

Benge 0-2
Roselli 1-2
Serrano 0-1, BB, K
Houck 1-2, 2b, K
Snyder 1-2, K #Mets

Nick Roselli with his second hit of the game. He now has 4 multi-hit games to begin his career (14 games) #Mets

**Pro debut alert** Ethan Lanthier 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's #Mets

In comment 16592955 DanMetroMan said:

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**Pro debut alert** Ethan Lanthier 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's #Mets

Lanthier's FB topped off at 96.2 MPH. Sat 94+ #Mets

5.1 innings 2 hits 0 runs 2 walks 6 k’s

Florida Complex League Mets
@FCLMets
Saturday's Bridge League debuts brought the 🔥 on the mound:

🔸Jace Hampson (2 K, 93 mph)
🔹Chandler Marsh (2 K, 95 mph)
🔸Tanner Witt (2 K, 94 mph)

reyes is fine since there's pretty much no role for him, the issue would come if a starting MI got hurt and now all of a sudden there's a real role.

i assume they figured they'd have baty in that scenario and he's is at least experienced in MLB. but with him out now they'd be forced to either player a likely useless player (reyes) or a totally inexperienced one (acuna) hoping for lightning in a bottle.

if you look at how the cubs have developed PCA at the big league level, it shows how a player with defensive value and athleticism can improve there vs. AAA. last year he got his feet wet and k'd a ridiculous 37% (i assume if called up acuna could look just as out of place at the plate). this year pca was struggling back at AAA k'ing 27% but they called him up before he was ready out of not really having a better option. he was able to hold his spot because of defense but also slowly/surely made adjustments to improve his offense (including a swing change). he's only k'd 22% this year, and his RC is 87. he is hitting .279 second half with a 117 rc. there was an adjustment period where he played worse than he had in AAA but now a few months later he's playing better than he had earlier in the year in AAA. would have been nice to get acuna any MLB experience this year just purely for depth purposes this year and his development next year. with winker and marte healthy and iglesias/mcneil playing well no real spot for him but those gamel and djs at bats were a total waste.

1 game today

Jonathan Pintaro starting for Bing

The Mets calling up utilityman Pablo Reyes and lefthander Alex Young — 30-year-olds acquired in minor midseason deals — underscored the rough reality of the Mets’ minor leagues. They didn’t have any fun and exciting prospects worthy of a promotion.

At the start of the season, any of Drew Gilbert, Luisangel Acuna or Jett Williams feasibly could have reached the majors by now. But Gilbert and Acuna missed significant time because of injuries and Acuna hasn’t hit well in Triple-A. Jacob Reimer, further from the majors, also missed several months. And that’s not to mention Ronny Mauricio, who would’ve received extended time in the majors if not for a torn ACL.

On the pitching side, none of Mike Vasil (5.54 ERA), Dom Hamel (6.77) or Blade Tidwell (5.40) have enjoyed much success with Syracuse. And although Brandon Sproat has had a great year, shooting to the top of the minors in his first pro season, his adjustment to Triple-A has proved difficult (8.83 ERA with way less than a strikeout per inning in four outings).

And Young to Syracuse

Are you hearing anything Dan?

My wife and I have our bags packed for our annual AFL trek.

In comment 16593380 BocaGene said:

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Are you hearing anything Dan? My wife and I have our bags packed for our annual AFL trek.

Jett Williams is expected to go. I was told off the record that Tebrake, Hall and Dylan Ross have all been told they are going but nothing official. Matt Allan is “in the mix”.

Jonathan Pintaro 6 k's through 3. Jett 0-2, 2 k's Clifford 1-1 #Mets

SyracuseMets TBD
@BKCyclones Zach Thornton (3.72 era with 1 walk over 19.1 innings in August)
@stluciemets TBD #Mets

@stluciemets
add 19th round pick RHP Frank Elissant and UDFA's RHP Hoss Brewer and RHP Channing Austin. RHP's Estarlin Escalante and Jorge De Leon have been moved to the Development List along with LHP Brayhans Barreto. Kyle Crick's rehab has moved on to @RumblePoniesBB
#Mets

Jett #48, Sproat #63, Scott #65, Mauricio #75 #Mets

@BaseballAmerica with some love for both Brandon Girton and Will Watson (and the Mets pitching development on the whole)

Allen there would be super interesting to follow. Out of curiosity what is Allen’s rule 5 eligibility given how long he was out for? Meaning if he really popped in AFL - or simply showcased good stuff - could a team like the white Sox who know they are going to suck squat on his rights?

In comment 16594029 bhill410 said:

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Allen there would be super interesting to follow. Out of curiosity what is Allen’s rule 5 eligibility given how long he was out for? Meaning if he really popped in AFL - or simply showcased good stuff - could a team like the white Sox who know they are going to suck squat on his rights?

Matt Allan is rule 5 eligible. As for Gilbert, he may well go but the only position player who I have had confirmed is Jett Williams.

Williams, Dylan Tebrake, Dylan Ross, Noah Hall all "confirmed" (assuming they are healthy) with Allan, Dominguez, Gomez, Brett Banks among the "handful" of names being told they are are under consideration. Mauricio is not expected to be healthy enough to play.

minors were a disappointment (collectively) this year?

Seems like from my far removed view, there was a lot of excitement coming into this season with Jett, Acuna, Clifford, Gilbert, Mauricio, Houck, Parada, etc.

and the pitchers, Tidwell, Hamil, Vasil, Scott, Ziegler, Stuart

Even add Baty to the list.

and either due to injury or under-performance no one had a great year. The main bright spot was Sproat who seems to have hit a wall.

Am I missing someone?

You (DMM and some others) follow the farm way more than me, is this fair?

the Mets system had a down season largely due to injury. Not really a huge argument otherwise. BA's preseason top 30

Jett Williams- (basically a lost season)
Mauricio (complete lost season)
Gilbert (75% of a lost season)
Acuna (poor season)
Clifford (very solid season but still hitting a combined .230 with a 30% k rate)
Scott (very nice season, now injured)
Tidwell (very good in AA, awful so far in AAA)
Houck (horrendous)
Sproat (breakout season)
Hamel (horrendous)
Y Rodriguez (okay debut season in the DSL)
Alex Ramirez (awful)
McLean (very good in BK, has struggled in AA)
Reimer (lost season)
Baez (breakout, then knee injury)
J-Rod (solid season)
Vargas (lost season)
Butto (very good season, no longer a prospect)
Morris (traded)
Stuart (traded)
Baro (very nice season)
De Oleo (poor season)
R. Hernandez (very solid season)
Rudick (mediocre)
Gomez (missed season, TJ)
Lantigua (solid DSL season)
Ziegler (lost season, TJ)
Jordan (poor season)

That's not to say there haven't been bright spots but when you have THAT many injuries among your top names it's tough to really say "nice season", that doesn't include a guy like Parada who is looking more and more like a miss.

fairness to Sproat, his last outing was very good 5.2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 2 walks 6 k's

just answered this question for me-


Anonymous
1 minute ago
Josh- Why doesn't Jonah Tong have more buzz? Lack of current high end velocity? Build? Just turned 21 with a combined 2.25 FIP, 12.68 K/9, 33.9 k%
Josh Norris
now

There's reliever risk due to his smaller size and some delivery questions too. Good prospect, though.

In comment 16593950 DanMetroMan said:

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Jett #48, Sproat #63, Scott #65, Mauricio #75 #Mets

Per BA
Sproat moved up 30 spots, Scott down 44 spots due to the significance of his elbow injury, Gilbert dropped off the list (from 70) due to injury (it's suggested he was a just miss), Tidwell drops off due to poor control post promotion to AAA #Mets

Brendan Girton (fresh off some love from @BaseballAmerica) making his first pro start* (* almost certainly a bullpen game) #Mets

Acuna 1-4, 2B
Gilbert 0-3, BB
Ritter 1-4, 2B, 2 k’s
Blackburn (rehab) 6.2 innings 4 hits 1 run 1 walk 4 k’s
McLaughlin .1 perfect 1 k
Zuber 1 inning 3 hits 2 runs 2 walks 1 k (he’s been awful post trade)

.@BKCyclones
Baro 1-5, K
Suero 3-4, HR, 2B (one of my 2025 picks to click)
Hernandez 1-4, BB, K
Thornton 5.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 1 walk 6 k’s (era down to 2.92 in BK, 2 walks since 8/1, 24.2 innings)
Lawson 1 perfect 3 k’s (2 er allowed over his last 13 appearances) #Mets

league OF talent


8. New York Mets
Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford are in the Top 100 and both came from Houston courtesy of the Justin Verlander trade last year. Carson Benge isn’t in the Top 100 … yet, but the 2024 first-rounder out of Oklahoma State could land on the list in the future if he performs well. The Mets have seven outfielders on their Top 30.

In comment 16594653 DanMetroMan said:

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league OF talent 8. New York Mets Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford are in the Top 100 and both came from Houston courtesy of the Justin Verlander trade last year. Carson Benge isn’t in the Top 100 … yet, but the 2024 first-rounder out of Oklahoma State could land on the list in the future if he performs well. The Mets have seven outfielders on their Top 30.

Sorry this is Pipeline if anybody is curious why it says both are top 100 when neither made BA's list

-Expects Ramirez to be DFA'ed (calls him a non prospect)
- Parada/Houck trending toward non-prospects, will be at the bottom of the Mets top 30 for them (if they make it)
-High on McLean, will likely rank ahead of a guy "like Acuna" when their list comes out.

if I recall correctly (and I may not) had the dreaded "best bat in the draft class" label, no? At least he was in the discussion. Was it Law who liked him a lot?

How does that player miss so bad?

And hate even more than I am looking right.

In comment 16594794 pjcas18 said:

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if I recall correctly (and I may not) had the dreaded "best bat in the draft class" label, no? At least he was in the discussion. Was it Law who liked him a lot? How does that player miss so bad?

Has a very unique load to his swing (which may or may not be his main issue). John Sickels had a theory on catchers that sometimes the rigors of actually catching physically impact a player so much they aren't able to handle it. One recent example given was Dodgers C Diego Cartaya.

Parada's in zone whiff% is so poor that there isn't much reason to believe their is light at the end of the tunnel. Privately, one writer told me that the Mets themselves view Parada as a "miss". 34% k%, .299 OBP. Crazier things have happened but it looks like he is indeed a bust.

In comment 16594807 bhill410 said:

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And hate even more than I am looking right.

Makes you feel any better both Baro and Ewing have shown some real encouraging signs (same draft). Hopefully, Snyder can make up for Houck. Houck (like Parada) does look to be trending towards a complete bust. 2025 is massive for him, he needs to show significant gains.

In comment 16594811 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16594807 bhill410 said: Quote: And hate even more than I am looking right. Makes you feel any better both Baro and Ewing have shown some real encouraging signs (same draft). Hopefully, Snyder can make up for Houck. Houck (like Parada) does look to be trending towards a complete bust. 2025 is massive for him, he needs to show significant gains.

Houck was a bit more raw as a prospect so not shutting the door on him. Big off-season and 2025 though as you mentioned.

Parada is terrible and a waste of a high draft pick. Let's hope that doesn't happen again for a long time.

In comment 16594508 DanMetroMan said:

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Acuna 1-4, 2B Gilbert 0-3, BB Ritter 1-4, 2B, 2 k’s Blackburn (rehab) 6.2 innings 4 hits 1 run 1 walk 4 k’s McLaughlin .1 perfect 1 k Zuber 1 inning 3 hits 2 runs 2 walks 1 k (he’s been awful post trade) .@BKCyclones Baro 1-5, K Suero 3-4, HR, 2B (one of my 2025 picks to click) Hernandez 1-4, BB, K Thornton 5.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 1 walk 6 k’s (era down to 2.92 in BK, 2 walks since 8/1, 24.2 innings) Lawson 1 perfect 3 k’s (2 er allowed over his last 13 appearances) #Mets

Christopher Suero with a combined 8 homers, 18 steals, 114 wRC+, 13.9% BB, 22.3% K, .130 ISO at 20 years old seeing time at 3 positions (including C)

@mets will play for the Scottsdale Scorpions in the 2024 AFL #Mets

Let's hope Blade Tidwell finishes his season strong. August was not kind to him. 23 innings 17 walks 5.09 era. He's walked 3 or more in 6 of his last 8 starts #Mets

Will Watson in the game for @stluciemets allows a solo HR in 1 inning of work. BA praised Watson's stuff just yesterday #Mets

(Continuation of yesterday's game) Vargas 2-2 (he only hit .176 in August while walking 13 times in August over 34 ab's). A lost season for Vargas, still one to watch for 2025
Benge 0-1, Serrano 0-2, K, Houck 1-1, 2b, Snyder 0-1, K, Ewing 0-1, Roselli BB, Collins 0-1, K #Mets

Jett, Rudick and Clifford go down 1-2-3 in the first #Mets

Nick Roselli keeps on mashing. Rbi single driving in Ewing. Roselli has a .965 OPS in the early going #Mets

Daiverson Gutierrez (predictably given his age) struggling early with @stluciemets. He's 1/16 with 6 k's #Mets