And it spoke volumes, IMO.
Schoen was at the Clemson/Georgia game and was chatting with Ryan Poles and Schoen said (and I quote): “Gotta be nice not to be looking at the, uhh…” and Poles finished his sentence “quarterbacks”. Schoen just laughed.
Yep. Schoen was there for Carson Beck. Make no mistake about it. Schoen knows we don’t have a QB.
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We knew that when they were discussing making a move up, or talking to all the prospects in general.
Paralysis by analysis.
DJ doesn't have a fan club. Just people like Schoen with measured belief. It only seems like a fan club because of all the assholes who can't wake up without pissing on the dude. It's a psychosis. A scary one actually.
Jones has never pushed into "Elite", he's never been in the conversation for a top 5 QB, and he's often considered one of the bottom 5 by pundits.
Bottom line, they are drafting a QB next year at some point.
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DJ doesn't have a fan club. Just people like Schoen with measured belief. It only seems like a fan club because of all the assholes who can't wake up without pissing on the dude. It's a psychosis. A scary one actually.
Amen
1 - He's not in their long term plans unless he shows the turn around of all turn arounds this season
2 - Just an opinion, but I think both Schoen and Daboll have decided that they're okay rolling with Jones until they can find someone "elite" rather than just better than Jones
The question is can they find a guy before Mara moves on from them?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
Well said
Does that make them fans of him? I think so.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
Hell, if Daniel Jones was our long term solution, we would have re-structured his contract to get more cap space.
Sh*t or get off the pot at this point, and if this season goes bad, I'm not sure he should get the privilege to Sh*t.
You can't tip your hand when the entire world already knows what you going to do
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Bias fogs perception.
So, the question becomes what Schoen does with QB if they are 8-9 and picking 14th? Because that's the issue. Someone like Carson Beck will be long gone.
Then it's either Jones or a free agent in 2025. Schoen put himself in a tough spot.
Sh*t or get off the pot at this point, and if this season goes bad, I'm not sure he should get the privilege to Sh*t.
Mara was overheard talking to McKaskey: “Gotta be nice not to be looking at the, uhh…” and McKaskey finished his sentence “GMs”.
Bias fogs perception.
I just listened to it. Schoen's making complementary small talk with Poles.
I wouldn't think anyone could misinterpret that. Looking at the OP now I understand.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Simms had just 34 starts entering his 6th season compared to Jones's 60.
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Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Simms had just 34 starts entering his 6th season compared to Jones's 60.
And Schoen reupped him after watching or having film on 55 of those starts. What a poor decision and hopefully one that costs him his job if this season goes the way I think it is going to go. He is not the guy.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Because it’s a stupid fucking point.
He opted to get a blue chip player at a position of need rather than reaching for a QB at 6 they didn't have rated nearly that high. To me, that's sound management.
He will do the same extensive research on this class and be ready when draft time comes. The situation will be different.
Jones will have either played himself into the long term solution or out the door (they can cut bait after this season).
Schoen will want to be ready in case he does need to take a QB. Either way, he knows upgrading at QB is paramount for this team to have sustained success.
Oh and he's not going anywhere even if they go 3-14, Mara will not want to continue revolving door of GMs.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Because it’s a stupid fucking point.
Ignoring facts is the root of ignorance. I'll keep helping in your quest to stay that way. My gift to BBI.
Hell, if Daniel Jones was our long term solution, we would have re-structured his contract to get more cap space.
Outside of a disastrous season by Jones I fully expect him to be back next year. This is purely based on this regimes' actions and how that contract is structured.
Oh and he's not going anywhere even if they go 3-14, Mara will not want to continue revolving door of GMs.
I would prefer continuity as well but I'm not feeling confident if end result is essentially punting 3 seasons (2 of Jones on the new contract plus whoever will be a rookie in 25) because he couldn't walk away in the negotiating room. That's almost an entire rookie contract! Think about this, by the time their 2025 rookie is ready to compete in 2026 (presumably), Wan'Dale will have already been a free agent, and Hyatt will be entering a contract year.
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Yeah, because Simms first 5 years here was brilliant.
If he played in the 2020's he would.
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If he played in the 2020's he would.
If Sims played in the 2020s he wouldn’t have gotten 5 years
The irony of you, of all people, saying this with a straight face is something else. You are far more charitable and forgiving towards this five season failure than you ever were towards the guy who won Super Bowls.
There is no issue with it, the issue is that he is too dumb to keep his mouth shut--that is the issue. As I said, I have never come across less impressed with a person from a reality sports show than I have Joe Schoen.