And it spoke volumes, IMO.
Schoen was at the Clemson/Georgia game and was chatting with Ryan Poles and Schoen said (and I quote): “Gotta be nice not to be looking at the, uhh…” and Poles finished his sentence “quarterbacks”. Schoen just laughed.
Yep. Schoen was there for Carson Beck. Make no mistake about it. Schoen knows we don’t have a QB.
All I can say is I hope he wasn't at Notre Dame/A&M for the QBs based on what I saw.
I dont think Jones is the future, even if he has a good year i dont think he is the future, you just cant trust him that is the point we are at..
At the same time i dont want Schoen to just make a move jist to make a move, you can add a vet but how many vet son the market are actually an upgrade over Jones? He tried to move up and it didnt work out and he wasnt settling for a QB they didnt love...
So he got the weapon and kept building around the QB position...
I seem to recall another GM doing this in this town and got criticized, me included, that he nedded to make the big move, needed to add a star and he continued to build the talent and now has the best team in NY...
I get it everyone wants Jones gone but maybe lrts have a little patience and see who Schoen and Daboll target
Who did he pass on?
And which "studs" are these?
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Because it’s a stupid fucking point.
Ignoring facts is the root of ignorance. I'll keep helping in your quest to stay that way. My gift to BBI.
Ignoring the situation around you is far worse than what you're accusing SFGF of. The comparisons to Simms and even Eli put the modern NFL of 2024 on level ground with their eras and that is simply not the case. The rules are different, contact structures are different, expectations are different. Informing current decisions based on what worked in the distant past (and yes in sports Simms era is the distant past) shows a lack of comprehension for the modern game.
Schoen likes to window shop.
Look, fans need to come to the realization that Schoen actually believes in Jones's talent and Daboll's ability to coach/develop him. Sure, he may not think he's an elite player, but they saw him win a big game in Minnesota. And I think that still carries significant weight...
I wish this wasn't the case, but it's a conclusion that seems very plausible at this point.
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I'd be bummed if he wasn't looking at all of the college qb's (except DJU)
All I can say is I hope he wasn't at Notre Dame/A&M for the QBs based on what I saw.
Me neither. Another former Duke qb and a brutal A&M qb
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If he is so concerned about QB, there were about a half-dozen moves he could have explored this offseason even outside of a 1st round pick. Instead, he made the position group worse.
Schoen likes to window shop.
Look, fans need to come to the realization that Schoen actually believes in Jones's talent and Daboll's ability to coach/develop him. Sure, he may not think he's an elite player, but they saw him win a big game in Minnesota. And I think that still carries significant weight...
I wish this wasn't the case, but it's a conclusion that seems very plausible at this point.
Or he doesnt want to replace him just to replace him, they want to just add someone just to add someone..
They also dont want to drsft someone because they "have" to, they want to actually like the prospect because drsfting someone
Bias fogs perception.
This x1000. Depending on your perception, bias, whatever, you can certainly take this either way. After listening to this a couple times, to me it sounds like Schoen could certainly be complementing Poles that they have their guy and won't have to worry about scouting QB's (hopefully any time soon for them). On the other hand, given the injury history of DJ and his performance last year, it would be gross negligence for Schoen to not be looking at QB's this year, especially this early before a single regular season NFL snap has been played.
I don't post much, but I made it known in several threads before the draft I wanted JJM at 6, so this post is no way a "DJFC" or "DJ apologist" situation. As some have said, and I feel it's been said begrudgingly by some, I hope Jones lights it the F up this year to hopefully have one less hole to fill (as well as using up other draft capital to potentially trade up for a QB) going forward.
The season can't get here soon enough...
Simms also didn't win a playoff game at that point.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
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Ways of interpreting this. 1 being what the original poster took it as. 2, guys shooting the shit and one complimenting that they got their guy.
Bias fogs perception.
I just listened to it. Schoen's making complementary small talk with Poles.
I wouldn't think anyone could misinterpret that. Looking at the OP now I understand.
Yup -Danny comeback player of the year campaign starts Sunday..
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
I agree, the season hasn't even started, and people want to start planting the seeds of Schoen's doom. Lot's of miserable people around here.
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It only seems like a fan club because of all the assholes who can't wake up without pissing on the dude. It's a psychosis. A scary one actually.
The irony of you, of all people, saying this with a straight face is something else. You are far more charitable and forgiving towards this five season failure than you ever were towards the guy who won Super Bowls.
Hbart may be Pat Hanlon.
The reason Schoen is busy scouting quarterbacks is because Schoen is now fully responsible for this team's abominable predicament by making the dumbest contract decision in Giants history. He himself put this franchise in the deepest quadrant of quarterback hell, not Dave Gettleman or John Mara. Joe Schoen has no one to blame but himself.
It seems like every day evidence emerges that sullies Schoen's credibility. Let's hope the team gets off to a good start or this debate about his competence and lack of self-awareness will begin to gain significant traction in the coming months.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was just paying Poles a compliment.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was just paying Poles a compliment.
But isn't he a moron regardless even if his intent was just to give Poles a compliment knowing that he was mic'd up.
So, the question becomes what Schoen does with QB if they are 8-9 and picking 14th? Because that's the issue. Someone like Carson Beck will be long gone.
Then it's either Jones or a free agent in 2025. Schoen put himself in a tough spot.
You think Mara fires him at 5-12?
No way......I can't see that.
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Schoen is a complete moron if he intended it like the original poster interpreted it. These guys know when each other are mic'd up.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was just paying Poles a compliment.
But isn't he a moron regardless even if his intent was just to give Poles a compliment knowing that he was mic'd up.
Why? They drafted #1. It's not like they got something over on the Giants.
So, the question becomes what Schoen does with QB if they are 8-9 and picking 14th? Because that's the issue. Someone like Carson Beck will be long gone.
Then it's either Jones or a free agent in 2025. Schoen put himself in a tough spot.
Don't know if you are paying attention to college football, but there's a lot more than Carson Beck out there.
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If he played in the 2020's he would.
That's purely speculative. There's also a chance that if he played in the current era, with the salary cap, rookie contracts, and veteran QB contracts being what they are, that Simms never sees a starting gig again after his third or fourth year.
And even so, relying on exceptions doesn't make rules. The vast majority of QBs who start their career on a mediocre track turn out to be mediocre QBs. Holding out hope that prior unlikely events will repeat themselves (based purely on that hope and nothing else) is generally a poor strategy if the goal is success rather than nostalgia.
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This is why it's almost useless to do the Schoen scouting itinerary tracker this season. We know he's going to be on the QB circuit. Was more intriguing last season because there was at least the question of, "Would they really draft a QB a year after giving Jones that contract?"
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Exactly. None of this is news. They tried to trade up for a QB they liked a lot and couldn't. They weren't as high on other QBs and took a franchise type WR. This year is a very deep QB draft, and they should be drafting someone imo
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
LOL....maybe Schoen shouldn't embarrass himself and even go to scout since he failed this year - bad look admitting he let the team down.
Go incognito so no one knows it's actually him. Save face.
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
LOL....maybe Schoen shouldn't embarrass himself and even go to scout since he failed this year - bad look admitting he let the team down.
Go incognito so no one knows it's actually him. Save face.
He should clearly scout. But he seems to enjoy wasting his time because he can’t seem to come to a resolve to draft a QB, of any kind.
The bad look is joking about it, when it can easily be seen that the joke is on him as to the decisions he has made at the position.
No reeason to make stretched comparisons to the past.
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
But is it really a long term deal? its essentially 2 years..
You also have to realize that Schoen really had no choice, they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk...
and if he tags Jones that means Saquom walks and you are basically making the team worse coming off the playoffs...
then if you tag him and you let him walk after last year, fine with me, but then whose the QB? Minshew? draft Mccarthy? Penix or Nix and have no Nabers?
Do i think Jones is the answrr? absolutely not, but killing schoen for bringing him back which was essentially a 2 year deal is really not fair either..
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
LOL....maybe Schoen shouldn't embarrass himself and even go to scout since he failed this year - bad look admitting he let the team down.
Go incognito so no one knows it's actually him. Save face.
He should clearly scout. But he seems to enjoy wasting his time because he can’t seem to come to a resolve to draft a QB, of any kind.
The bad look is joking about it, when it can easily be seen that the joke is on him as to the decisions he has made at the position.
So, he should have just drafted a QB he or the team didn't believe in? Not sure where you are going with this.
I mean....
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they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk
I mean....
they werent coming off the playoffs when they let him go
Because then they had to let Saquon walk
What bothers me is more wasn't done this year to address QB.
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
But is it really a long term deal? its essentially 2 years..
You also have to realize that Schoen really had no choice, they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk...
and if he tags Jones that means Saquom walks and you are basically making the team worse coming off the playoffs...
then if you tag him and you let him walk after last year, fine with me, but then whose the QB? Minshew? draft Mccarthy? Penix or Nix and have no Nabers?
Do i think Jones is the answrr? absolutely not, but killing schoen for bringing him back which was essentially a 2 year deal is really not fair either..
The no choice theme is as weak as any excuse you read on here.
In giving that, it is very easy to see how so many of you DJ fans or former fans that still can’t fully grasp the idea his being on this roster is holding this team back. Year after year.
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
But is it really a long term deal? its essentially 2 years..
You also have to realize that Schoen really had no choice, they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk...
and if he tags Jones that means Saquom walks and you are basically making the team worse coming off the playoffs...
then if you tag him and you let him walk after last year, fine with me, but then whose the QB? Minshew? draft Mccarthy? Penix or Nix and have no Nabers?
Do i think Jones is the answrr? absolutely not, but killing schoen for bringing him back which was essentially a 2 year deal is really not fair either..
The no choice theme is as weak as any excuse you read on here.
In giving that, it is very easy to see how so many of you DJ fans or former fans that still can’t fully grasp the idea his being on this roster is holding this team back. Year after year.
Well then you are not being fair, you expected Schoen to basically take a step back after making the playoffs and winning game, thats not realistic and no gm in football would of made that decision..
1 - He's not in their long term plans unless he shows the turn around of all turn arounds this season
2 - Just an opinion, but I think both Schoen and Daboll have decided that they're okay rolling with Jones until they can find someone "elite" rather than just better than Jones
The question is can they find a guy before Mara moves on from them?
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
LOL....maybe Schoen shouldn't embarrass himself and even go to scout since he failed this year - bad look admitting he let the team down.
Go incognito so no one knows it's actually him. Save face.
He should clearly scout. But he seems to enjoy wasting his time because he can’t seem to come to a resolve to draft a QB, of any kind.
The bad look is joking about it, when it can easily be seen that the joke is on him as to the decisions he has made at the position.
So, he should have just drafted a QB he or the team didn't believe in? Not sure where you are going with this.
Not sure where you are either.
He should have never believed in Jones. That’s an evaluation mistake.
If he was even on the fence then he should have forced DJs hand with free agency or the tag, and bought himself another year. That contract was a negotiation mistake.
In the meanwhile, try to find some “belief” in another prospect. Stop wasting time.
A)wouldn't have cared at all if they had
B)they ended up letting walk anyway a year later
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
LOL....maybe Schoen shouldn't embarrass himself and even go to scout since he failed this year - bad look admitting he let the team down.
Go incognito so no one knows it's actually him. Save face.
He should clearly scout. But he seems to enjoy wasting his time because he can’t seem to come to a resolve to draft a QB, of any kind.
The bad look is joking about it, when it can easily be seen that the joke is on him as to the decisions he has made at the position.
So, he should have just drafted a QB he or the team didn't believe in? Not sure where you are going with this.
Do most mid/late round draft picks hit? Absolutely not.
Do some hit and become franchise QBs? Occasionally - it's extremely rare, but it does happen.
Do some hit and become viable (and cheap) backup QBs? Yes.
Do you ever have a chance at finding a diamond in the rough as either a backup or a starter if you literally never draft one at all? No.
It's crazy that Schoen hasn't drafted any QB at all in three full drafts. It's even crazier that the Giants had been ignoring the position for a few years before that, too.
There are two separate issues here, IMO:
Schoen was unable to pull the trigger on a QB prospect that he did like (Maye) because he wasn't in position to draft that prospect and couldn't execute a trade to get into position to draft that prospect. That's issue #1, but it only addresses the idea of taking a direct path to finding a replacement for DJ that will become a bona fide franchise QB (hopefully).
The second issue is a failure to address the QB position at all through the draft for multiple years now. Yes, there's a very high bust rate for QBs outside of the first round. But by day three of the draft, there's a high best rate for pretty much every position. I guarantee Schoen isn't ignoring day three DL just because he already has Dex. So why continue to ignore developmental QB prospects even if he genuinely believes in DJ?
The Giants appear to be grossly negligent at the most important position in the sport, and treat a player who has shown very little reliability (particularly in terms of injuries) as though he's the ironman that his predecessor was.
If this was the OL and the team had not drafted a single prospect at the position in over five years, people would lose their minds. But when fans complain about the Giants actual lack of activity at the QB position, they get shouted down by their fellow fans.
Just improve the f*cking team already. No position groups should be immune from that, regardless of the incumbent.
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
But is it really a long term deal? its essentially 2 years..
You also have to realize that Schoen really had no choice, they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk...
and if he tags Jones that means Saquom walks and you are basically making the team worse coming off the playoffs...
then if you tag him and you let him walk after last year, fine with me, but then whose the QB? Minshew? draft Mccarthy? Penix or Nix and have no Nabers?
Do i think Jones is the answrr? absolutely not, but killing schoen for bringing him back which was essentially a 2 year deal is really not fair either..
The no choice theme is as weak as any excuse you read on here.
In giving that, it is very easy to see how so many of you DJ fans or former fans that still can’t fully grasp the idea his being on this roster is holding this team back. Year after year.
Well then you are not being fair, you expected Schoen to basically take a step back after making the playoffs and winning game, thats not realistic and no gm in football would of made that decision..
Don’t need to step back. Stand up straight and assess the situation correctly.
Besides, the last game in the playoffs showed you everything nodded, about the state of that team and QB, in case you missed it during the season.
Wake up. You are missed it and have had 2 years to think about why.
What bothers me is more wasn't done this year to address QB.
That's because of the contract. There was now way (outside of NE giving away their pick for less -than-market value) they were getting anyone to replace Jones while he's making $40m this season.
Mara got what he wanted. Hopefully Schoen/Daboll gets whet they wants next season.
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Because then they had to let Saquon walk
A)wouldn't have cared at all if they had
B)they ended up letting walk anyway a year later
I agree but in the position the Giants were in at the time, it would of been stupid to let Saquon walk
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Schoen knows the Bears just took a QB #1 overall and aren't looking at QB....so he makes small talk on it that gets picked up.
This makes Schoen look bad?
Everyone knows they were looking to possibly draft a QB and are in the futures for a QB.
Schoen makes himself look bad. Making stupid comments about GMs/QBs when he has done absolutely nothing to improve the team at the position. Only wasting time and money.
Were you thinking this was a good look?
So you wouod of gottent rid of Jones coming off the playoffs? and replace him with who?
I would have let him go to free agency. If that was untenable for this franchise then I could understand some form of the tag. Keeping AND paying longer term was foolish.
You see that now at least, right?
But is it really a long term deal? its essentially 2 years..
You also have to realize that Schoen really had no choice, they were coming off the playoffs he couldnt just let him walk...
and if he tags Jones that means Saquom walks and you are basically making the team worse coming off the playoffs...
then if you tag him and you let him walk after last year, fine with me, but then whose the QB? Minshew? draft Mccarthy? Penix or Nix and have no Nabers?
Do i think Jones is the answrr? absolutely not, but killing schoen for bringing him back which was essentially a 2 year deal is really not fair either..
The no choice theme is as weak as any excuse you read on here.
In giving that, it is very easy to see how so many of you DJ fans or former fans that still can’t fully grasp the idea his being on this roster is holding this team back. Year after year.
Well then you are not being fair, you expected Schoen to basically take a step back after making the playoffs and winning game, thats not realistic and no gm in football would of made that decision..
Don’t need to step back. Stand up straight and assess the situation correctly.
Besides, the last game in the playoffs showed you everything nodded, about the state of that team and QB, in case you missed it during the season.
Wake up. You are missed it and have had 2 years to think about why.
easy to do sitting on your couch and not having to deal with the media or the team or players who would of questioned why you took a step back after making the playoffs
you make it sound so easy maybe you should be a gm
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LOL the starting quarterback of the team doesn't have a fan club? You'd expect that to be the case, no?
Maybe, but far less than you'd expect supposed fans to not reach, daily, for some tired, overplayed, myopic, in the past bullshit to bitch about and demean their starting QB.
I don't know, five years of middling play is something I should be fired up about?
It is not.
And knowing that the peak of the team is capped by that middling performance just about drains any enthusiasm I have for this season.
I'm already looking at next year's crop.
The Giants have 4 SB trophies because QBs with years of middling play raised their game at the right time.
Enjoy your disdain and wallow in your dissatisfaction at years gone by. Doesn't seem fun to me, but you do you.
Stop comparing Simms and Eli to Daniel Fucking Jones.
Why? Cause it doesn't fit your fucked up narrative?
Because it’s a stupid fucking point.
Ignoring facts is the root of ignorance. I'll keep helping in your quest to stay that way. My gift to BBI.
Sure but there's nothing factual being presented when pointing out that two previous QBs who were each superior to Jones did something that Jones will never do.
Whoever said that needs to shake their head. They must think this defense is up to that standard too.
Some stupid comments here.