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NFT: Garrett Nussmeier, QB LSu

NJBlueTuna : 9/4/2024 1:19 pm
He sure looked sharp this past weekend against USC. Will be his first and last year as a starter. Comes from a nfl family and all scouting reports say he has elite arm strength but no body of work to judge him against.

Joe Burrow was an unknown until his last year at LSU. Will be interesting to see this kid play this year.
Moss  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/4/2024 1:30 pm : link
for USC looked much better to me.
I'm terrible at evaluating QBS  
Dnew15 : 9/4/2024 1:33 pm : link
but the kid looked like he could really spin it.
RE: Moss  
barens : 9/4/2024 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16594898 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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for USC looked much better to me.


Yeah, Moss came out of that one looking better, and not just because of the W, but he was under constant duress against a speedy SEC defense, and for a Pro style QB, no easy feat.
RE: Moss  
bw in dc : 9/4/2024 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16594898 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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for USC looked much better to me.


Much better?

Nussmeier racked up an 87+ QBR. Miller was at 79.
RE: RE: Moss  
beatrixkiddo : 9/4/2024 1:55 pm : link
In comment 16594911 bw in dc said:
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for USC looked much better to me.



Much better?

Nussmeier racked up an 87+ QBR. Miller was at 79.


Against USC, they have a pretty soft/weak defense. LSU is pretty tough. Moss looked real good honestly, I just think he is a little slight framed, and I’m not sure he offers much in terms of mobility (not that you need to be Lamar Jackson, but I think the ability to extend plays with your legs is huge). Miss certainly showed a quick release and was quick enough to dissect where to go with the ball though. I like both prospects. Will certainly keep my eyes on both this year.
For me Win>QBR in comparing both QB’s in that game  
Rick in Dallas : 9/4/2024 2:07 pm : link
Moss really impressed me in the 4th quarter
Nussmeirer also played well but edge to Moss imv
RE: RE: Moss  
NJBlueTuna : 9/4/2024 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16594911 bw in dc said:
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for USC looked much better to me.



Much better?

Nussmeier racked up an 87+ QBR. Miller was at 79.


Agree, Nussmeier was much better in the game. Not even close.
RE: RE: RE: Moss  
bw in dc : 9/4/2024 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16594941 NJBlueTuna said:
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In comment 16594898 redwhiteandbigblue said:


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for USC looked much better to me.



Much better?

Nussmeier racked up an 87+ QBR. Miller was at 79.



Agree, Nussmeier was much better in the game. Not even close.


He made some NFL throws in that game outside the hashes that were impressive. Kid has some arm talent.
Funny how there’s at least  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/4/2024 2:39 pm : link
10 First round QBs in week 1 of the college football season.


By the end of the season there will be 3 or 4.
I was pretty impressed with both of them  
bigbluehoya : 9/4/2024 2:43 pm : link
That was a great game to watch.
I didn't think either one looked high level to my eye  
widmerseyebrow : 9/4/2024 3:09 pm : link
At least not yet. Caveat being that I'm obviously far from a pro evaluator.

Nussmeier was good with ball placement on scheduled throws, but I'm not sure if I see a playmaker there. To me he came off as more of a game manager/backup type at the next level.

Moss was efficient for most of the game, but outside of the big drive at the end I thought he looked pedestrian. He missed badly on a swing pass that would have been a gimme touchdown.

Both can be good college quarterbacks, but that doesn't necessarily equate to a high level NFL starter.
I'm salivating  
santacruzom : 9/4/2024 4:50 pm : link
over Dylan Raiola. And we just may get him if we neglect QB for two more drafts!
If you actually go by  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/4/2024 5:35 pm : link
Qb ratings you really need to stop looking at stats and watch a game. Stats are often BS and rarely tell the whole story when evaluating a QB. As posted earlier, a pro style offense QB under extreme duress can look great but the QB rating can be low.
I prefer to actually watch a game and draw my conclusions.
RE: If you actually go by  
bw in dc : 9/4/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16595169 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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Qb ratings you really need to stop looking at stats and watch a game. Stats are often BS and rarely tell the whole story when evaluating a QB. As posted earlier, a pro style offense QB under extreme duress can look great but the QB rating can be low.
I prefer to actually watch a game and draw my conclusions.


I watched every snap of the LSU/USC game. I started a pre-game thread before kick-off and commented during the game.

So, your comment doesn't apply to me.
LSU - USC discussion - ( New Window )
Was not responding to you  
redwhiteandbigblue : 9/4/2024 5:47 pm : link
It was just a general comment.
RE: For me Win>QBR in comparing both QB’s in that game  
upnyg : 9/4/2024 7:21 pm : link
In comment 16594938 Rick in Dallas said:
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Moss really impressed me in the 4th quarter
Nussmeirer also played well but edge to Moss imv

I watched the whole game, the eye test tells me that Moss looked better under duress and came up big at the end.
RE: RE: For me Win>QBR in comparing both QB’s in that game  
barens : 9/4/2024 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16595238 upnyg said:
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Moss really impressed me in the 4th quarter
Nussmeirer also played well but edge to Moss imv


I watched the whole game, the eye test tells me that Moss looked better under duress and came up big at the end.


That's the thing, I watched the whole game to, and I don't think there's any doubt which QB was under more pressure. It seemed like Moss was dealing with more of an NFL pass rush and often had to get rid of the ball much faster than Nussmeier.

And on top of that, Nussmeier is playing with 2 blue chip offensive tackles. USC's defense played well, but they weren't pressuring the QB. If you can't take that into account, you are missing the big picture.
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