Hurts was terrible and even on the good last drive he should of thrown a pick..
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
Hurts was terrible and even on the good last drive he should of thrown a pick..
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
Hurts was terrible and even on the good last drive he should of thrown a pick..
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
One player was wrapping up at the lower legs as he was already laying on the ground. That's legal.
The other player went high for a tackle.
I think it's just some bad luck for Love. Seemed ok to me, he was being given medical attention on the sideline from what I could see - seemed to be an ankle the way he walked off.
His turnovers ticked up last year. So he goes out and turns the ball over 3x.
Before his second pick, he nearly threw a pick six.
He fumbled the final 3rd down sneak at the end of the game that would have been disasterous had SB not recovered.
He also was give some huge breaks, including an intentional grounding call that was obvious - and that non call was right before a punt that pinned GB deep.
He also was bailed out on the final drive by two holds, including one on third down that looked totally nothing on his WR Devonte Smith.
He made a nice wheel route throw to SB - and he had a nice bull run for a 1st down on the final drive.
But other than that, he has very easy throws and reads IMO.
As someone said above, he benefited from Jordan Love playing below average.
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"Seventeen minutes and 22 seconds into his Philadelphia Eagles tenure, Saquon Barkley soared into the end zone. The two-time Pro Bowl running back wasn't close to finished with his dazzling Eagles debut. Barkley matched a career high with three totals touchdowns to propel Philadelphia past the Green Bay Packers, 34-29, on Friday night in the NFL's first-ever game in Brazil."
We all knew with a quality OL, a decent QB and WR weapons, he’d be a very good player. Unfortunately, the Giants struck out on all three during his time with the Giants.
And even if the Giants wanted him back, they’d have no business paying a large salary to a RB when the rest of the roster needs so much. Mara should be smart enough to understand this.
Even if Barkley wins league MVP, the Giants still made the right move.
We all knew with a quality OL, a decent QB and WR weapons, he’d be a very good player. Unfortunately, the Giants struck out on all three during his time with the Giants.
And even if the Giants wanted him back, they’d have no business paying a large salary to a RB when the rest of the roster needs so much. Mara should be smart enough to understand this.
Even if Barkley wins league MVP, the Giants still made the right move.
It is rather amazing Saquon Barkley's rookie season given the Giants starting offensive line in 2018. But I never felt the "real story" about the Giants was ever really about Saquon Barkley, or any other individual player for that matter. Rather, since 2018, the real story has been about a franchise with the worst 1-to-53 roster in the NFL.
He made a lot of nice plays with his legs and his arm when his team needed it. He also made some head scratching throws that could have turned the game but didn’t. You can pick most games in Hurts’ NFL career so far and find plays all over the spectrum in each one. He is a boom or but player drive to drive.
Barkley did what most people expected him to do - play really well behind a much better line with much better parts around him. Again, the Giants did not let Barkley walk because they thought he was washed up and couldn’t play and it was just thrown in their faces. They let him walk because his production was not matching his paycheck in the Giants’ offense and likely wasn’t going to anytime soon. If Barkley stays healthy for 17 games and keeps producing like that you tip your hat to him. But letting him walk was the correct decision regardless of how it plays out.
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"Seventeen minutes and 22 seconds into his Philadelphia Eagles tenure, Saquon Barkley soared into the end zone. The two-time Pro Bowl running back wasn't close to finished with his dazzling Eagles debut. Barkley matched a career high with three totals touchdowns to propel Philadelphia past the Green Bay Packers, 34-29, on Friday night in the NFL's first-ever game in Brazil." Link - ( New Window )
Flashy headline
Flashy player
He looks exactly as expected, can run through holes, good receiver.
He also can still make impressive cuts
That said - he still goes down easily with contact (a lot of his Carrie’s were 2 yards or less) and is expected to wear down as the season progresses.
For a team like the Eagles, it was smart to overpay for him.
For a team like the Giants, it was a smart move to use resources elsewhere (OL)
With a good OL, the argument that a good RB is a wasted resource
may not hold water. We all understand that Barkley was wasted here, and it’s just mind boggling that the Giants couldn’t find a couple of competent veterans to shore up the OL during his time here.
Now it comes down to, would a competent OL make Jones look as good? Was choosing Jones at 40M instead of Barkley at 13M the right move?
with a lot of penalties and then some field issues.
SB looked solid and a good start for him and the team. Eagles are committed to the run game and they got rewarded as it played out.
Really tough break for the Pack if Love is injured seriously. Hope it works out for the best for him.
With an OL that can open holes most of the time, this is where a Barkley/McCaffrey really shines. Its not that they get 5 yards every carry, no RB in the NFL. If the OL is beaten by the DL no one gets anything but a yard. However when there is a crack these guys can turn runs that other backs get for 5-10 yards, into runs of 20 yards. That is why this "but what did Barkley do besides those 5 big plays" never holds water with me. Those 5 plays are what separates Barkley/McCarthy from everyone else.
RE: With a bad OL you don't need a top RB, its a waste
With an OL that can open holes most of the time, this is where a Barkley/McCaffrey really shines. Its not that they get 5 yards every carry, no RB in the NFL. If the OL is beaten by the DL no one gets anything but a yard. However when there is a crack these guys can turn runs that other backs get for 5-10 yards, into runs of 20 yards. That is why this "but what did Barkley do besides those 5 big plays" never holds water with me. Those 5 plays are what separates Barkley/McCarthy from everyone else.
Is a very good offensive player. Fans can dismiss him all you want but he’s a legit nfl playmaker that defenses have to account for. That also happens to be something the Giants are sorely missing. There is a simple and realistic situation he could have still been a Giant this year along with the line upgrades- by not paying a below average QB an outrage contract.
Hahahaha…he’s not on McCaffrey’s level. Not even close.
Of course he is. McCaffrey turned it up when he went to SF, Barkley will get the same stats now that he is with Philly. If #26 had a different name on the jersey last night, you'd be saying how great the guys is.
Is a very good offensive player. Fans can dismiss him all you want but he’s a legit nfl playmaker that defenses have to account for. That also happens to be something the Giants are sorely missing. There is a simple and realistic situation he could have still been a Giant this year along with the line upgrades- by not paying a below average QB an outrage contract.
This is the right comment. Not that letting Barkley go now wasn't the right thing, but the mistakes were made getting to this point
Is a very good offensive player. Fans can dismiss him all you want but he’s a legit nfl playmaker that defenses have to account for. That also happens to be something the Giants are sorely missing. There is a simple and realistic situation he could have still been a Giant this year along with the line upgrades- by not paying a below average QB an outrage contract.
This. They could have upgraded the Oline and kept Barkley, but they chose to keep Jones instead. They had two oft-injured, inconsistent players on big contracts who were the backbone of bad teams and they could only keep one. They chose the QB instead of the RB.
They got it half right by letting one of them go when they should have let both of them go.
McCaffrey is, and always has been, a much more complete back
Hahahaha…he’s not on McCaffrey’s level. Not even close.
Of course he is. McCaffrey turned it up when he went to SF, Barkley will get the same stats now that he is with Philly. If #26 had a different name on the jersey last night, you'd be saying how great the guys is.
CMC has stayed healthy and elevated his offenses he's been on, and he's played with Garoppolo (mediocre), Lance (lol) and Purdy (7th rd rook). Not a great line because only Trent Williams is the one with accolades. It's scheme and he excels at it, and he's also stayed healthy.
Can Saquon stay healthy? Huge determination going forward.
And it sounds like some forget they offered Saquon a deal throughout 2022 and he kept rejecting it. It forced NY to forgo tagging Jones. This is very old news. Jones has an out after this year and the saga will be over. But I'm sure some here will still be stuck on it.
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
Which was a mistake. You don’t sign a guy to a lucrative contract simply because you need the tag for someone else. Schoen was faced with. Tough decision and his choice was two half measures. It hasn’t worked out like he hoped as the team is losing and both may be gone next year.
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
Which was a mistake. You don’t sign a guy to a lucrative contract simply because you need the tag for someone else. Schoen was faced with. Tough decision and his choice was two half measures. It hasn’t worked out like he hoped as the team is losing and both may be gone next year.
Agreed it ended up being a bad move but at the time i think he felt he had to what he did and signing Jones to essentially a 2 year deal and tagging Barkley was the best they could do
Been reading blistering BBI comments about Saquon Barkley
(1) Doesn't run hard enough, hesitates. Check.
(2) Often injured. Check
(3) Dances around too much. Check
(4) Makes dumb mistakes. Check
(5) Doesn't take what the defense gives him. Check
(6) Makes wrong cuts and chooses the wrong hole. Check
(7) Goes down on contact. Check
(8) Drops easy passes. Check.
My, oh my, oh my! How easy it is to piss on one of the very few stars the Giants had since 2018... much easier than coming to terms with the fact that we have been rooting for an NFL-bottom roster.
And, then wait for it. Wait for it. Saquon Barkley lights it up in his debut with the Eagles, and we still have BBIers pooh-poohing his performance.
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
Guys in that role will have good games. The TDs are big fantasy news. The overall production is good. This is just not that big a deal. Lots of established starting RBs changed teams this offseason. He is one of them.
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
No, no it is not. Stop acting like one decision is easy to make when considering so many variables. This Barkley love is out of control!
#1- Jones's contract is longer in length so easier to hide, move and alter money and cap impacts.
#2- Barkley's numbers, which we truly do not know what they were, would have crippled the Giants ability to sign players, get a QB or keep Jones under the FT..
Barkley didn't do anything last night that makes me think we made a mistake. Some of you just refuse to look at the whole picture. The one true statement about Barkley is the fact that the Giants should have traded him in 2022 or 2023 where we could have given ourselves more ammo for more picks or picks we could use to move up for say a QB..
The Barkley love after one game is a bit out of control, but so are the negative comments attempting to degrade his performance last night.
One game from Barkley does not prove anything for anyone, whether he had a bad game or a good game.
There are some Giants fans desperate to let others know they were ‘right’ about Barkley. There other fans who are hurt by him joining a rival which manifests itself with unnecessary negative comments.
We love small sample sizes when we feel it validates our POV; and hate small sample sizes when they contradict our POV. Small sample sizes are inconsequential.
The Barkley love after one game is a bit out of control, but so are the negative comments attempting to degrade his performance last night.
One game from Barkley does not prove anything for anyone, whether he had a bad game or a good game.
There are some Giants fans desperate to let others know they were ‘right’ about Barkley. There other fans who are hurt by him joining a rival which manifests itself with unnecessary negative comments.
We love small sample sizes when we feel it validates our POV; and hate small sample sizes when they contradict our POV. Small sample sizes are inconsequential.
Are fooling yourself. Barkley is a fucking stud and we would be better team today with him. Eagles will love him all year right to the final game of the season at this rate. Guy is gonna have a monster year
when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
No, no it is not. Stop acting like one decision is easy to make when considering so many variables. This Barkley love is out of control!
#1- Jones's contract is longer in length so easier to hide, move and alter money and cap impacts.
#2- Barkley's numbers, which we truly do not know what they were, would have crippled the Giants ability to sign players, get a QB or keep Jones under the FT..
Barkley didn't do anything last night that makes me think we made a mistake. Some of you just refuse to look at the whole picture. The one true statement about Barkley is the fact that the Giants should have traded him in 2022 or 2023 where we could have given ourselves more ammo for more picks or picks we could use to move up for say a QB..
This post is a joke.
Jones contract is easier to hide? 20% of the cap on a bad QB?
Barkley would have been crippling? Please explain the Jones contract then.
Lastly Barkley is a very good nfl player. Daniel Jones is not.
The refs were bad on this game. They missed the intentional grounding, multiple offsides.
Barkley was ok. The stat lines read better than his actual game but he did play well in the 4th quarter.
I hope Love is OK but it looked like there was a bit of a buckle. I wanted the Packers to win.
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
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Hurts was terrible and even on the good last drive he should of thrown a pick..
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
So what did Hurts do good tonight?
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Poor John Mara. He saw this coming
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Maybe John doesn’t have Peacock and didn’t watch?
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Hurts was terrible and even on the good last drive he should of thrown a pick..
He continues to make bad decisions when he is hurried, clean pocket sure he can find the open man and he has his legs but he is a terrible deciison maker
It seems some posters definition of “terrible” is not very realistic
So what did Hurts do good tonight?
Really?? Did you even watch the game?
Exactly my thoughts. GB had multiple chances to blow it open
What a dirty bunch of scumbags the Eagles are
I don't think it was dirty.
One player was wrapping up at the lower legs as he was already laying on the ground. That's legal.
The other player went high for a tackle.
I think it's just some bad luck for Love. Seemed ok to me, he was being given medical attention on the sideline from what I could see - seemed to be an ankle the way he walked off.
Before his second pick, he nearly threw a pick six.
He fumbled the final 3rd down sneak at the end of the game that would have been disasterous had SB not recovered.
He also was give some huge breaks, including an intentional grounding call that was obvious - and that non call was right before a punt that pinned GB deep.
He also was bailed out on the final drive by two holds, including one on third down that looked totally nothing on his WR Devonte Smith.
He made a nice wheel route throw to SB - and he had a nice bull run for a 1st down on the final drive.
But other than that, he has very easy throws and reads IMO.
As someone said above, he benefited from Jordan Love playing below average.
He has a top level #2
He has a very, very good TE
He has a top 5 OL
He now has a very good RB
With all that I still think he is only OK. He did win the game which is the most important thing. To me that was due to the opposing QB playing worse
He can still play. I don't think anyone could reasonably dispute that.
I stand by my Barkley prediction. Good year this year, then next year the Eagles will regret signing him.
Grant Gordon, Digital Content Editor
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"Seventeen minutes and 22 seconds into his Philadelphia Eagles tenure, Saquon Barkley soared into the end zone. The two-time Pro Bowl running back wasn't close to finished with his dazzling Eagles debut. Barkley matched a career high with three totals touchdowns to propel Philadelphia past the Green Bay Packers, 34-29, on Friday night in the NFL's first-ever game in Brazil."
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And even if the Giants wanted him back, they’d have no business paying a large salary to a RB when the rest of the roster needs so much. Mara should be smart enough to understand this.
Even if Barkley wins league MVP, the Giants still made the right move.
And even if the Giants wanted him back, they’d have no business paying a large salary to a RB when the rest of the roster needs so much. Mara should be smart enough to understand this.
Even if Barkley wins league MVP, the Giants still made the right move.
It is rather amazing Saquon Barkley's rookie season given the Giants starting offensive line in 2018. But I never felt the "real story" about the Giants was ever really about Saquon Barkley, or any other individual player for that matter. Rather, since 2018, the real story has been about a franchise with the worst 1-to-53 roster in the NFL.
Barkley did what most people expected him to do - play really well behind a much better line with much better parts around him. Again, the Giants did not let Barkley walk because they thought he was washed up and couldn’t play and it was just thrown in their faces. They let him walk because his production was not matching his paycheck in the Giants’ offense and likely wasn’t going to anytime soon. If Barkley stays healthy for 17 games and keeps producing like that you tip your hat to him. But letting him walk was the correct decision regardless of how it plays out.
Grant Gordon, Digital Content Editor
Excerpt:
"Seventeen minutes and 22 seconds into his Philadelphia Eagles tenure, Saquon Barkley soared into the end zone. The two-time Pro Bowl running back wasn't close to finished with his dazzling Eagles debut. Barkley matched a career high with three totals touchdowns to propel Philadelphia past the Green Bay Packers, 34-29, on Friday night in the NFL's first-ever game in Brazil." Link - ( New Window )
Flashy headline
Flashy player
He looks exactly as expected, can run through holes, good receiver.
He also can still make impressive cuts
That said - he still goes down easily with contact (a lot of his Carrie’s were 2 yards or less) and is expected to wear down as the season progresses.
For a team like the Eagles, it was smart to overpay for him.
For a team like the Giants, it was a smart move to use resources elsewhere (OL)
Now it comes down to, would a competent OL make Jones look as good? Was choosing Jones at 40M instead of Barkley at 13M the right move?
SB looked solid and a good start for him and the team. Eagles are committed to the run game and they got rewarded as it played out.
Really tough break for the Pack if Love is injured seriously. Hope it works out for the best for him.
Love had 20 QBR and Hurts had a 38+ QBR.
Dreadful results.
Well played.
Mccaffrey transformed the niners because of their very good oline and his ability to take it to the hous eon any given play
Of course he is. McCaffrey turned it up when he went to SF, Barkley will get the same stats now that he is with Philly. If #26 had a different name on the jersey last night, you'd be saying how great the guys is.
This is the right comment. Not that letting Barkley go now wasn't the right thing, but the mistakes were made getting to this point
This. They could have upgraded the Oline and kept Barkley, but they chose to keep Jones instead. They had two oft-injured, inconsistent players on big contracts who were the backbone of bad teams and they could only keep one. They chose the QB instead of the RB.
They got it half right by letting one of them go when they should have let both of them go.
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Hahahaha…he’s not on McCaffrey’s level. Not even close.
Of course he is. McCaffrey turned it up when he went to SF, Barkley will get the same stats now that he is with Philly. If #26 had a different name on the jersey last night, you'd be saying how great the guys is.
CMC has stayed healthy and elevated his offenses he's been on, and he's played with Garoppolo (mediocre), Lance (lol) and Purdy (7th rd rook). Not a great line because only Trent Williams is the one with accolades. It's scheme and he excels at it, and he's also stayed healthy.
Can Saquon stay healthy? Huge determination going forward.
And it sounds like some forget they offered Saquon a deal throughout 2022 and he kept rejecting it. It forced NY to forgo tagging Jones. This is very old news. Jones has an out after this year and the saga will be over. But I'm sure some here will still be stuck on it.
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
Which was a mistake. You don’t sign a guy to a lucrative contract simply because you need the tag for someone else. Schoen was faced with. Tough decision and his choice was two half measures. It hasn’t worked out like he hoped as the team is losing and both may be gone next year.
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when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
Which was a mistake. You don’t sign a guy to a lucrative contract simply because you need the tag for someone else. Schoen was faced with. Tough decision and his choice was two half measures. It hasn’t worked out like he hoped as the team is losing and both may be gone next year.
Agreed it ended up being a bad move but at the time i think he felt he had to what he did and signing Jones to essentially a 2 year deal and tagging Barkley was the best they could do
(1) Doesn't run hard enough, hesitates. Check.
(2) Often injured. Check
(3) Dances around too much. Check
(4) Makes dumb mistakes. Check
(5) Doesn't take what the defense gives him. Check
(6) Makes wrong cuts and chooses the wrong hole. Check
(7) Goes down on contact. Check
(8) Drops easy passes. Check.
My, oh my, oh my! How easy it is to piss on one of the very few stars the Giants had since 2018... much easier than coming to terms with the fact that we have been rooting for an NFL-bottom roster.
And, then wait for it. Wait for it. Saquon Barkley lights it up in his debut with the Eagles, and we still have BBIers pooh-poohing his performance.
Precious.
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
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when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
No, no it is not. Stop acting like one decision is easy to make when considering so many variables. This Barkley love is out of control!
#1- Jones's contract is longer in length so easier to hide, move and alter money and cap impacts.
#2- Barkley's numbers, which we truly do not know what they were, would have crippled the Giants ability to sign players, get a QB or keep Jones under the FT..
Barkley didn't do anything last night that makes me think we made a mistake. Some of you just refuse to look at the whole picture. The one true statement about Barkley is the fact that the Giants should have traded him in 2022 or 2023 where we could have given ourselves more ammo for more picks or picks we could use to move up for say a QB..
One game from Barkley does not prove anything for anyone, whether he had a bad game or a good game.
There are some Giants fans desperate to let others know they were ‘right’ about Barkley. There other fans who are hurt by him joining a rival which manifests itself with unnecessary negative comments.
We love small sample sizes when we feel it validates our POV; and hate small sample sizes when they contradict our POV. Small sample sizes are inconsequential.
One game from Barkley does not prove anything for anyone, whether he had a bad game or a good game.
There are some Giants fans desperate to let others know they were ‘right’ about Barkley. There other fans who are hurt by him joining a rival which manifests itself with unnecessary negative comments.
We love small sample sizes when we feel it validates our POV; and hate small sample sizes when they contradict our POV. Small sample sizes are inconsequential.
Perfect post to close this thread!
On to Minnesota! lol
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when criticising schoen for signing Jones? He didnt CHOOSE Jones over Barkley, he offered Barkley more money than he got from the eagles this year and even upped his offer from when they offered him a deal during the bye week..
He wanted to sign Barkley and tag Jones butnwhen he knew he wasnt gokng to get a deal done with Barkley he went to Jones and signed him and tagged Barkley..
It’s still a massive mistake and miscalculation.
It’s also less punitive to “overpay” Saquon an extra few million than dropping 160 million on Jones.
No, no it is not. Stop acting like one decision is easy to make when considering so many variables. This Barkley love is out of control!
#1- Jones's contract is longer in length so easier to hide, move and alter money and cap impacts.
#2- Barkley's numbers, which we truly do not know what they were, would have crippled the Giants ability to sign players, get a QB or keep Jones under the FT..
Barkley didn't do anything last night that makes me think we made a mistake. Some of you just refuse to look at the whole picture. The one true statement about Barkley is the fact that the Giants should have traded him in 2022 or 2023 where we could have given ourselves more ammo for more picks or picks we could use to move up for say a QB..
This post is a joke.
Jones contract is easier to hide? 20% of the cap on a bad QB?
Barkley would have been crippling? Please explain the Jones contract then.
Lastly Barkley is a very good nfl player. Daniel Jones is not.
I'm not pining to have Barkley back, but his contract is small potatoes. The donation to Daniel's legacy fund is back-breaking for the franchise.