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It’s ownership… it absolutely HAS to be

I Love Clams Casino : 9/8/2024 5:06 pm
What other explanation? Giants have been through so many total overhauls, but the one constant? Ownership.

Sell it
At this point,  
Silver Spoon : 9/8/2024 5:09 pm : link
a curse?
In the socialist world that is the NFL  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2024 5:10 pm : link
there is no monetary incentive to excell. Mara continues to make a bundle, he's going nowhere
100%  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/8/2024 5:15 pm : link
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Kevin Abrams is waiting in the wings if Mara fires Schoen...



Yes of course  
Jerry in_DC : 9/8/2024 5:16 pm : link
But remember that John Mara owns less than 5% of the team. The problem is his role as CEO, which could be changed.

He could hire a non-Mara for the CEO job and be more like a Tisch style owner. He could make himself and his family less present in the building. He obviously sucks at this job and is the single biggest reason why the franchise has sucked for 10 years. But he likes playing with his toy and none of the other owners are going to stop him.
RE: 100%  
FStubbs : 9/8/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16600426 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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Kevin Abrams is waiting in the wings if Mara fires Schoen...




At this point, let it happen. Remove any and everything Mara can hide behind.
The team is  
callmecrazy : 9/8/2024 5:19 pm : link
screwed for a very long time. Only way they can have success is if someone steps in and force changes.
RE: In the socialist world that is the NFL  
Capt. Don : 9/8/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16600414 Bill in UT said:
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there is no monetary incentive to excell. Mara continues to make a bundle, he's going nowhere


Amen. You can be awful and make millions.
I so badly want to scream at John Mara  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/8/2024 5:21 pm : link
Until I am red faced and literally spitting my words at him…… Get your fucking hands off of my fucking team you gigantic, large faced, large forehead, milk, toast, motherfucker!!!!
Why do people keep harping on this?  
IchabodGiant : 9/8/2024 5:23 pm : link
They aren’t going to sell the Giants.
And btw  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/8/2024 5:23 pm : link
Thats Milquetoast

Look it up…its a perfect word for him.

Troglodyte snooking motherfucker!!!
It’s the league. It’s college ball.  
bradshaw44 : 9/8/2024 5:24 pm : link
It’s everything. Look around. There is Patrick Mahomes and nobody else. The talent pool is at an atrocious low. I don’t care what anyone’s says. Jints in Carolina please save this post like my last one. The nfl sucks and the Giants do too.
RE: Why do people keep harping on this?  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/8/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16600456 IchabodGiant said:
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They aren’t going to sell the Giants.


Because Mr. Crane,… It’s what needs to happen to make this problem go away… And as long as this large forehead, motherfucker owns the team we are going to suck
RE: Yes of course  
cosmicj : 9/8/2024 5:25 pm : link
In comment 16600430 Jerry in_DC said:
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But remember that John Mara owns less than 5% of the team. The problem is his role as CEO, which could be changed.

He could hire a non-Mara for the CEO job and be more like a Tisch style owner. He could make himself and his family less present in the building. He obviously sucks at this job and is the single biggest reason why the franchise has sucked for 10 years. But he likes playing with his toy and none of the other owners are going to stop him.


Exactly. Mara isn’t the “owner”, he’s the CEO and Board Chair. The ownership group should force him to resign and conduct a search for a replacement. A real search, with only external candidates.
RE: RE: Yes of course  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/8/2024 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16600464 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16600430 Jerry in_DC said:


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But remember that John Mara owns less than 5% of the team. The problem is his role as CEO, which could be changed.

He could hire a non-Mara for the CEO job and be more like a Tisch style owner. He could make himself and his family less present in the building. He obviously sucks at this job and is the single biggest reason why the franchise has sucked for 10 years. But he likes playing with his toy and none of the other owners are going to stop him.



Exactly. Mara isn’t the “owner”, he’s the CEO and Board Chair. The ownership group should force him to resign and conduct a search for a replacement. A real search, with only external candidates.


Excuse me… Tim Mara
RE: RE: 100%  
Section331 : 9/8/2024 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16600437 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16600426 SirLoinOfBeef said:


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Kevin Abrams is waiting in the wings if Mara fires Schoen...






At this point, let it happen. Remove any and everything Mara can hide behind.


Hell, give Chris the job. Why not?
I was 1000%  
shocktheworld : 9/8/2024 5:46 pm : link
Behind the “out side” hires of Schoen and Dabs…. Mara did the right thing in this situation IMO, but Getts and the sins of our past were (and still are) haunting us (Daniel @6 and Saquon @2)

We need to secure the #1 pick and have our choice of the next QB. 2022 was such a fun season, but that flash of success is what lead to DJ/‘Quan conundrum, and where we are currently.

Thibs and Neal looking more like misses for top 7 picks and it only intensified the roll over carnage of DJ/‘Quan…mid round whiffs like Flott/Ezudu among others? Whelp that’s on Schoen…he hasn’t been amazing. I think Dabs is overthinking things because of the liability DJ presents down to down. He looks done with Jones…problem is we are just finishing week 1, yikes. 🫣

I think a new, highly rated QB will do a lot to help us fully reset. We have some nice pieces on this team that would enable a quick turnout. We have to get past the “reign of suck” that has gripped this team for over a decade, and sucking one last year may be the answer.

Can’t believe it’s “root for losses” time already… I know plenty of fans are for or against this strategy, but season over first performance by this team brings the topic up quickly. 😢

Fack, this sucks
RE: It’s the league. It’s college ball.  
Jersey Heel : 9/8/2024 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16600459 bradshaw44 said:
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It’s everything. Look around. There is Patrick Mahomes and nobody else. The talent pool is at an atrocious low. I don’t care what anyone’s says. Jints in Carolina please save this post like my last one. The nfl sucks and the Giants do too.

Huh? Not sure what you’re watching. Good teams do, in fact, exist. Football can be enjoyable to watch.
RE: I was 1000%  
lax counsel : 9/8/2024 5:58 pm : link
In comment 16600527 shocktheworld said:
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Behind the “out side” hires of Schoen and Dabs…. Mara did the right thing in this situation IMO, but Getts and the sins of our past were (and still are) haunting us (Daniel @6 and Saquon @2)

We need to secure the #1 pick and have our choice of the next QB. 2022 was such a fun season, but that flash of success is what lead to DJ/‘Quan conundrum, and where we are currently.

Thibs and Neal looking more like misses for top 7 picks and it only intensified the roll over carnage of DJ/‘Quan…mid round whiffs like Flott/Ezudu among others? Whelp that’s on Schoen…he hasn’t been amazing. I think Dabs is overthinking things because of the liability DJ presents down to down. He looks done with Jones…problem is we are just finishing week 1, yikes. 🫣

I think a new, highly rated QB will do a lot to help us fully reset. We have some nice pieces on this team that would enable a quick turnout. We have to get past the “reign of suck” that has gripped this team for over a decade, and sucking one last year may be the answer.

Can’t believe it’s “root for losses” time already… I know plenty of fans are for or against this strategy, but season over first performance by this team brings the topic up quickly. 😢

Fack, this sucks


I'd be surprised if Schoen and Dabs get to pick a qb with a top pick. I think they'll be gone. I also do not feel terrible for them in the Jones situation. They doubled down on him, and passed on the opportunity to take a qb at 6, or in any other round. They could have separated themselves from him with a franchise tag o by drafting a qb at any point.
Rule of Thumb  
Biteymax22 : 9/8/2024 6:04 pm : link
If you own a business and it does horribly for any stretch of time greater than 3-4 years, you’re the problem.
Section 331  
arniefez : 9/8/2024 6:08 pm : link
Yes. End the charade. Make Tim McDonnell GM and let him pick the coach. If this was the premier league the Giants would be relegated.
I am having Deja Vu, having grown up in the 70s,  
81_Great_Dane : 9/8/2024 6:11 pm : link
and I’m too old for this shit.
RE: RE: Yes of course  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2024 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16600464 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16600430 Jerry in_DC said:


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But remember that John Mara owns less than 5% of the team. The problem is his role as CEO, which could be changed.





Exactly. Mara isn’t the “owner”, he’s the CEO and Board Chair. The ownership group should force him to resign and conduct a search for a replacement. A real search, with only external candidates.

Unless I'm wrong, that a distinction without a difference. John Mara doesn't own the team, but I believe the Mara extended family owns 51%. As long as they raking in the bucks, there is no incentive to dump John. It's not like any of them want to do it and why not let Johnny Boy keep his toy until he passes it along to Timmy
They are a chip of the old block.  
St. Jimmy : 9/8/2024 6:21 pm : link
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if the current  
Enzo : 9/8/2024 6:42 pm : link
regime end up failures and never end up excelling in this league in their respective rolls, that's a TON of bad hires made by ownership in a relatively short period of time. Idiots.
RE: RE: It’s the league. It’s college ball.  
bradshaw44 : 9/8/2024 7:46 pm : link
In comment 16600533 Jersey Heel said:
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In comment 16600459 bradshaw44 said:


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It’s everything. Look around. There is Patrick Mahomes and nobody else. The talent pool is at an atrocious low. I don’t care what anyone’s says. Jints in Carolina please save this post like my last one. The nfl sucks and the Giants do too.


Huh? Not sure what you’re watching. Good teams do, in fact, exist. Football can be enjoyable to watch.


I’m not watching much of anything anymore. This coming from a person with video taped evidence of my obsession with the NFL at 6 years old in early 1980s. As my dad filmed me Christmas morning playing with a new toy and I was barely playing with the toy because I was glued on Summeral and Madden. I have been die hard my whole life. The last five or so years, maybe a bit longer, the league has turned to shit. Sure there are talented players, but it’s dwindling. Think back to just a decade or so ago…. Brees, Brady, Peyton, Eli, Rivers, Roethlisburger, Rodgers, Favre, Romo, Etc. Now there is Mahomes and a bunch of Jake Delhomes, maybe Romo level guys. It is clear talent is dwindling. And then throw in all the rule changes and marketing pandering BS. Its garbage.
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