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Banks, Papa, Dottino, what's the company line on Jones tom?

Ned In Atlanta : 9/8/2024 9:04 pm
It clearly won't be "he's awful"

What does everyone think the pivot point is? I think they blame the play calling
I’ll Take  
Trainmaster : 9/8/2024 9:07 pm : link
“Jones Is Still Rusty” for $200 Alex.

didn't have Evan Neal  
fish3321 : 9/8/2024 9:07 pm : link
for Jumbo sets to establish the run ;)
The narrative will start to be Daboll is too involved with the offense  
widmerseyebrow : 9/8/2024 9:08 pm : link
A high strung micro manager that never should have taken duties away from Kafka.
"We've done  
SomeFan : 9/8/2024 9:08 pm : link
everything to screw him up."
They  
Giants4me : 9/8/2024 9:08 pm : link
aren't giving Jones enough help.

Is Superman still a free agent?

Heard Banks today as was leaving the stadium, play for pride,
play for your teammate......it's week 1.

You think Giant employees are going  
Bill in UT : 9/8/2024 9:09 pm : link
to blame the coach rather than the QB? I think they blame the alignment of Jupiter and the moon or some other BS
They didn’t…  
BleedingBlue2 : 9/8/2024 9:13 pm : link
Defend him in the post-game. Actually, Papa said he has been a supporter but essentially said a QB can’t be that sloppy. They need to elevate their team even when things are bad and Jones didn’t do that.
Papa  
Giants4me : 9/8/2024 9:17 pm : link
had no criticisms of Dabol? He was just as bad as Jones today.

His defense of those two back to back runs by Jones at the 50
is pathetic.
It was one  
cokeduplt : 9/8/2024 9:22 pm : link
Bad game/day and coming of injury will be this weeks koolaid
I was listening to postgame on WFAN while driving….  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2024 9:24 pm : link
Wish I had a dollar for every time Dottino said, “Believe me I’m not trying to sugarcoat anything but…”
“I we are going to look at the tape and make adjustments “  
NJ_GIANTS : 9/8/2024 9:25 pm : link
And “he did some good things out there and we need to get better “
RE: I was listening to postgame on WFAN while driving….  
Go Terps : 9/8/2024 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16601211 bceagle05 said:
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Wish I had a dollar for every time Dottino said, “Believe me I’m not trying to sugarcoat anything but…”


Dottino can't be taken seriously. He claims to be interested in identifying problems and suggesting solutions, but that's not what he does.
Dottino referenced poor OL play in the post game  
Sean : 9/8/2024 9:27 pm : link
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Banks and Papa were refreshingly blunt  
CT Charlie : 9/8/2024 9:30 pm : link
during the radio broadcast today. They'll back off tomorrow to "rust" and "preseason" and "play-calling" and "Washington," but they didn't mince words about DJ, the receivers' not getting open, and the lack of a pass rush by our D. Thanks to our performance, Banks and Papa's enthusiasm level was solid Recent November standard.
RE: Dottino referenced poor OL play in the post game  
regulator : 9/8/2024 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16601221 Sean said:
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Then he wasn't watching.
RE: I’ll Take  
bw in dc : 9/8/2024 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16601157 Trainmaster said:
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“Jones Is Still Rusty” for $200 Alex.


That's a good one.

Or "First Game This Offensive Personnel Has Played Together" for $500 Alex.
Schmeelk is the objective one  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2024 9:33 pm : link
and was frustrated by Jones.
It 'll be he didn't play well but the whole team didn't play well.  
Blue21 : 9/8/2024 9:34 pm : link
Diversion tactic.
Daboll was heavily criticized too  
Matt123 : 9/8/2024 9:34 pm : link
Pretty sure it was Papa who said the idea of "halftime adjustments" is silly. And that in this league you have to adjust each series, and Daboll never did.

There's a difference between "Jones is awful"  
81_Great_Dane : 9/8/2024 9:34 pm : link
and "Jones played awful against the Vikings." I don't think anyone is going to tap dance around the second one. The company line, if there is a coordinated company line, will probably be that. I think "He's awful" isn't going to come from anyone paid by the Giants. You want to hear that? Turn on sports-talk radio. You'll hear plenty of it.
Mara  
Giants4me : 9/8/2024 9:35 pm : link
fussed on Hard Knocks about paying Jones and a number one pick
at the same time. Then told Schoen that Saqoun was the franchises most marketable player.

Schoen fed the Giants beat writers the " we have a limit" on the position and then begged Saquon for a chance to match when it went over his line.

He also underestimated the effect Saquon leaving would have
on Jones.

Jones failures are physical....it's his mental approach.
Dabol  
Giants4me : 9/8/2024 9:38 pm : link
should explain those two QB runs at the 50 when it was still a
game. Two in a row. You have the 6th pick in the draft.....throw the ball down the field.

Did the Vikes get a big play on a long pass??? Bad call but the got it.

Just dumb.
RE: Mara  
jvm52106 : 9/8/2024 9:51 pm : link
In comment 16601245 Giants4me said:
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fussed on Hard Knocks about paying Jones and a number one pick
at the same time. Then told Schoen that Saqoun was the franchises most marketable player.

Schoen fed the Giants beat writers the " we have a limit" on the position and then begged Saquon for a chance to match when it went over his line.

He also underestimated the effect Saquon leaving would have
on Jones.

Jones failures are physical....it's his mental approach.


Barkley being gone has ZERO effect on Jones's passes going into the ground. Gimme a break.
RE: Dottino referenced poor OL play in the post game  
Mike from Ohio : 9/8/2024 10:00 pm : link
In comment 16601221 Sean said:
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There will be questions about the Oline, questions about the play calling, questions about the defense. Jones will just have had a bad game coming off his injury and a very long layoff.
As far as I could tell the OL still isn’t any good…  
Chris684 : 9/8/2024 10:02 pm : link
But just add that to the list. Jones doesn’t suck because of the OL, he sucks in addition to the OL and worse than the OL.
Talkin GIants Skinner  
bc4life : 9/8/2024 10:03 pm : link
was spitting out some OLine stats - they sounded pretty good.
I listened to  
Daniel in MI : 9/8/2024 10:19 pm : link
Dotino and his partner (ex lb, I’m blanking atm) basically said all 3 phases looked bad, including DJ. That some rookies did good things but the stars/vets were too quiet except Dex.

Then there was a question about whether they should play more preseason, then too much babble about preseason and it being shorter and other guys looking sloppy too in other games that felt like stalling/killing time because what can you say. They did say (as Banks and Papa said) Vikings were in our weight class and blew us out. Not good.
Just my seat of the pants reaction  
OlyWABigBlue : 9/8/2024 10:33 pm : link
but the Oline was markedly improved. Jones had 4-5 seconds frequently and on a couple of sacks, he ran into the defenders. Mostly, DJ bailed after staring down his first read. Your mileage may vary.
When you have a horrible coach and qb  
kelly : 9/8/2024 10:58 pm : link
You get todays results.
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