Yesterday the roster was healthy.
This is year 3–there are no mulligans at this point.
If the season goes how yesterday foreshadowed the two go together.
No more half measures—enough with this Daboll can coach nonsense if empty suit could get him players. His offense was unimaginative, his receivers weren’t schemed open, his personnel chooses boarded on the bazaar. Daniel Jones was beyond horrific but so was “Danes”
This is a collaborative effort and if the present trend continues these guys will have failed together. They should go together if this is what we are going to see in Year 3
Yeah, and as much as I think Mara is annoyingly passive-aggressive in how he communications his preferences (honestly it would probably just be better if he gave direct orders), I doubt Mara had a hand in them doing nothing to get a qualified QB 2 or 3 that might be able to salvage their jobs if this Jones scenario occurred.
Impossible for any reasonable fan to have confidence in their thinking if DJ continues to be their choice.
1. The contract in 2023
2. Not bringing in a QB to challenge him going into 2024
Losing 41-0 and 28-6 in back to back home openers. Daboll loses a lot of the equity if not all he had from 2022.
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
2022 was fool’s gold.
How could Dabe’s ever have confidence in Jones if he is considered a QB guru.
Mind boggling!!!
Schoen is a nice guy but in over his head.
Nobody gets a pass because of the way the QB situation was handled but the long term benefits of Schoen will be felt.
Even if they move on from him some of the structure and process will remain for the next GM.
Daboll now has to get the team to play to a level you expect a quality HC to do in year 3. It won't be easy and how it plays out will make it very clear what needs to happen at seasons end with both.
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
And who decided to give Daniel fricken Jones 82 million GTD, with an additional 23 million in injury guarantee? Who decided not to draft or bring in any QB to compete with Daniel fricken Jones at any point in the past 3 years?
Nobody gets a pass because of the way the QB situation was handled but the long term benefits of Schoen will be felt.
Even if they move on from him some of the structure and process will remain for the next GM.
Only things I care about are the results. I could care less if they use Crayons on a table cloth draft board if they win. The modernizing of the giants has not led to any impact players in the first two years of the draft. This regime stinks.
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
Sure, Jones is a problem, but a) they not only bought in on Jones, they doubled down on him, and b) what has Schoen done that would show that anyone should have confidence in him?
He had 2 top 10 picks in the same draft, and right now, it looks like he blew both. That is fucking hard to do. And I don’t want to hear “every other team would have made the same picks”, because it’s bullshit. There were a lot of concerns bout KT’s motor, and his ability to win pass rush battles when his speed moves are taken away. Neal refusing to work out even at his pro day should have raised a HUGE red flag.
Wan’Dale looks like a good pick, Nabers was a no-brainer, and Okereke was a good FA signing. I think Banks will be a good corner. That’s what we’re showing in year 3, that is not a good track record.
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start all over than in 2 years complain again because they just aremt building it right...
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
And who decided to give Daniel fricken Jones 82 million GTD, with an additional 23 million in injury guarantee? Who decided not to draft or bring in any QB to compete with Daniel fricken Jones at any point in the past 3 years?
they messed up bringing him back, no arguments, they panicked after going to the playoffs, they should be fired because of that even though they will get outnof it after thisbyear?
To be this bad after 3 years is incompetence.
I am hoping Jones sits very soon.
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start all over than in 2 years complain again because they just aremt building it right...
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
Sure, Jones is a problem, but a) they not only bought in on Jones, they doubled down on him, and b) what has Schoen done that would show that anyone should have confidence in him?
He had 2 top 10 picks in the same draft, and right now, it looks like he blew both. That is fucking hard to do. And I don’t want to hear “every other team would have made the same picks”, because it’s bullshit. There were a lot of concerns bout KT’s motor, and his ability to win pass rush battles when his speed moves are taken away. Neal refusing to work out even at his pro day should have raised a HUGE red flag.
Wan’Dale looks like a good pick, Nabers was a no-brainer, and Okereke was a good FA signing. I think Banks will be a good corner. That’s what we’re showing in year 3, that is not a good track record.
I cant say Thibs is a miss after having 11.5 sacks last year, i am sorry i cant..
and if you blame Schoen for bringing back Jones than give him credit for bringing back Lawrence and Thomas that goes on his record..
and this draft class is still being evaluated but 3 of his drsft picks from that draft played well
I am hoping Jones sits very soon.
Exactly. Josh Allen made everyone associated with Buffalo look like geniuses when, in fact, the reason why Buffalo was good was because Josh Allen was so good. That is so true in the NFL. People just hire from successful teams and nobody really knows the reason who is responsible for success. The best analogy would be if you knew a team had a great 4x100 relay time and you hired a person from that relay team without knowing the individual splits. That is basically the NFL hiring process.
2022 was fool’s gold.
How could Dabe’s ever have confidence in Jones if he is considered a QB guru.
Mind boggling!!!
Schoen is a nice guy but in over his head.
What he said^
Its Daniel fricken Jones, he makes the entire team look bad, you want to put that on Schoen, fine, i am not going to, when he is gone next year and they get a competent QB and everything looks dofferent we will see if the same people want them gone..
Went through the same shit with the Knicks..
Knicks are winning because of Thibs and Rose. The growth and process was undeniable by year 3. Unless NYG play well here which seems laughable, it ain’t happening.
All this franchise does is experiment with first time this and first time that.
2022 was fool’s gold.
How could Dabe’s ever have confidence in Jones if he is considered a QB guru.
Mind boggling!!!
Schoen is a nice guy but in over his head.
Country Mouse lost in the Big City.
Daniels Jones is a cock-eyed son of a bitch, it's as simple as that and y'all refuse to accept it. He's cock-eyed, simple as that.Daboll doesn't have quite as much character , or vision, that i'd like, but not writing him off yet, still, not looking good right now.
John Mara needs to get his shit unscrewed Pronto. This is his shit show, whether he likes clowns or not.
They have to clean house.
Dabex has some baggage now - couldn’t manage his staff last year, team looks unprepared and sloppy. He goes before Schoen, IMO. Schoen gets another shot with a HC - QB combo if the season goes off the rails.