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And that was one of the winnable games

pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 8:28 am
on my pre-season review of the schedule.

Even if the Giants were embarrassed last year by the Cowboys on opening day (they were) at least you can kind of reconcile it a little because the Cowboys were pre-season Super Bowl contenders, won the division and tied for best record in the NFC.

But MIN, coming off a 7-10 season last year and they themselves seemingly going the route of rebuild and losing their rookie QB for the season. This is worse than last year's debacle.

Not sure where you go from here, but two years in a row the Giants show up at home, opening day, and look noticeably, measurably, demonstrably, woefully less prepared than their opponent.

Even if you argue there are talent differences between the teams this result was worse than a talent gap.

The next two games (@WAS and @CLE) are possibly it for this regime. Watson looked about as good as Jones and has a worse contract. These next two games *should* also be winnable.
I had the Giants winning 7 games in 2024  
Rick in Dallas : 9/9/2024 8:33 am : link
Yesterday’s game was one of those wins .
Time to reevaluate
Same.  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 8:38 am : link
I did bet the over (6.5) on the win total.

But for me it was less about thinking they were going to win 7 games. It was more about wanting to root for wins. it's not fun for me rooting for losses.

all we need now is a Ray in Arlington post about the tankathon - in September, lol.
Hopefully  
SoZKillA : 9/9/2024 8:51 am : link
We got 1-16/0-17.

We don’t need any meaningless wins like last year.
I'm not quite there yet  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 9:03 am : link
(0-17/1-16) but there is some truth to being not quite bad enough, lol. if that is somehow possible.

And you know in the era of ready-made excuses, when the Giants are bad enough and have the #1 overall pick for the first time since 1965 when they took Tucker Fredrickson it will be a "they had the top pick in a year without a franchise QB" so the cycle will continue.
Looking up until Halloween  
Chris684 : 9/9/2024 9:22 am : link
How is this team not 1-7 or 0-8 by then?
The problem isn't wining too few games  
gersh : 9/9/2024 9:24 am : link
It would be if we win too many (like last season)
If you want to get better, you need the QB
That requires a very high draft pick
I'm just saying if you want to  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 9:29 am : link
have complete control of your destiny, enough with this top 5/10 pick crap, go all in and get the top pick.

the "easiest" way to do that is worst record in the league. lol.
Might as well truly bottom out  
Greg from LI : 9/9/2024 9:30 am : link
There is no functional difference between 1-16 and 5-12 other than potentially costing them the overall #1 pick. Lose away!
Cleveland’s D is legit, and given how ours  
Section331 : 9/9/2024 9:31 am : link
made Sam Darnold look like vintage Joe Montana, I’m not holding out hope that Watson won’t do the same. This weekend’s game is a must win, and it’s week 2! If they lose, we’ll be lucky to see 4 wins.
RE: Might as well truly bottom out  
gersh : 9/9/2024 9:36 am : link
In comment 16601885 Greg from LI said:
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There is no functional difference between 1-16 and 5-12 other than potentially costing them the overall #1 pick. Lose away!


I get all the prinicialed fans - you play to win. and the team must always try to win. But the only path to truly competing is - lose enough to get the QB you need.
This death by 1000 cuts is no good. How many more bad years? How about one more really bad one?
And this was completely healthy  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 9:36 am : link
no one was out, doubtful or questionable.

there really is no excuse.
This was a constant thought of mine during the game and we weren't  
Blue21 : 9/9/2024 10:15 am : link
even competitive
The pre-season line had the Giants going 3-14  
TrueBlue'02 : 9/9/2024 11:11 am : link
And that seems about right.
RE: The pre-season line had the Giants going 3-14  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2024 11:23 am : link
In comment 16602190 TrueBlue'02 said:
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And that seems about right.


what pre-season line? the Giants win total at almost every gambling site was 6.5 or close to it.
RE: I'm just saying if you want to  
Red Right Hand : 9/9/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16601880 pjcas18 said:
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have complete control of your destiny, enough with this top 5/10 pick crap, go all in and get the top pick.

the "easiest" way to do that is worst record in the league. lol.
I still say Schoen's plan is to Crypto-Tank and has been all along. Why do you think Daboll was so Blase' at the presser?

Mara and Schoen are doing a Kibuki dance with each other, because They both know it was Mara who gave Jones the contract he wanted 15 minutes before the deadline, after Schoen told Jones to go talk to ownership at 3:30. Don't know much else, but I know that, and I know what the contract looks like, so Mara KNOWS it's on him, and he can't REALLY fire Schoen over it. Not really. And Schoen is shoving it up his ass because it was the wrong move. So Mara will content himself with mumbling under his breath while Scoen goes out and gets a top pick next year, albeit in a year that really doesn't have a great QB class at all. It really doesn't seem like this is gonna end anytime soon.
A high pick in a year when we need a QB when there was nothing out there is exactly how we got where we are now to begin with. Next year will be a repeat of how we got Daniel jones all over again.
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