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The Mara family- not really a surprise

Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 12:29 pm
Tim, then Wellington/Jack, now John. Isn't it classically the 3rd generation, born on 3rd base, which runs the family business into the ground?
It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
Section331 : 9/10/2024 12:31 pm : link
At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.
RE: It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/10/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16604524 Section331 said:
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At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.


He learned after 18 years.

John’s got a few years to go!
Wellington brought us the “15 years of lousy football”  
BillT : 9/10/2024 12:44 pm : link
So, they’re ahead of the curve.
RE: It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
BillT : 9/10/2024 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16604524 Section331 said:
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At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.

He was forced to by Rozelle.
RE: It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
rsjem1979 : 9/10/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16604524 Section331 said:
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At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.


He only learned because he was scolded by the commissioner of the damn NFL and forced to hire a grown-up and stop letting his little Mara family squabble wreck a cornerstone franchise.
4th Highest NFL franchise value  
give66 : 9/10/2024 12:56 pm : link
These guys have been waterskiing behind the growth and success of the NFL for 75 years. Don't expect any changes.
Rozelle forced Wellington out making personnel decisions  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2024 12:59 pm : link
...and the team instantly improved.

Within a few years of Wellington passing away, John and Chris Mara jump right back in and drive the team right into the ground.
maybe they enjoy being  
Ron Johnson : 9/10/2024 1:02 pm : link
laughed at
As long as they continue to make money......  
GiantBlue : 9/10/2024 1:14 pm : link
They don't care!

It is a popularity contest for John clearly. If he loves the player, he will demand he is played!
It is paradoxical  
TheOtherManning : 9/10/2024 1:33 pm : link
how the Mara's sincere love of football has rendered them lousy owners. If they didn't care and saw the Giants only as a piggybank, they'd be happy to hand off administrative duties to experienced executives.

It is an interesting psychological what-if to ponder, though - would you willingly give up a dream job like running the Giants on the chance that you're the problem? Or would you look for any out possible to justify it to yourself that it's not that bad...
RE: 4th Highest NFL franchise value  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/10/2024 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16604561 give66 said:
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These guys have been waterskiing behind the growth and success of the NFL for 75 years. Don't expect any changes.

This is incredibly obtuse. The team has won more championships in its history than all but 2 teams (Packers, Bears). They have played in more Championship games than any other team in history.
Does anyone see a legitimate answer to the problem?  
kelly : 9/10/2024 2:02 pm : link
Because so far nothing has worked.
RE: Does anyone see a legitimate answer to the problem?  
j_rud : 9/10/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16604660 kelly said:
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Because so far nothing has worked.


At this point I'd settle for someone taking inspiration from celebrated 90s gem Celtic Pride
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2024 2:42 pm : link
John Mara seems like a good dude from afar. I have no doubt he loves the Giants & this losing is killing him inside.

But I think he’s a football idiot who is sentimental to people who don’t deserve such sentimentality.
RE: RE: It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
Section331 : 9/10/2024 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16604553 BillT said:
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In comment 16604524 Section331 said:


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At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.


He was forced to by Rozelle.


Very true, but he was much better even after George Young left.
As much as the Mara's love the Giants,  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 3:06 pm : link
it sort of points out what happens when you have fans rather than professionals make the decisions
RE: maybe they enjoy being  
Blueworm : 9/10/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16604578 Ron Johnson said:
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laughed at


Humiliation fetishes -for those with power and money.
RE: 4th Highest NFL franchise value  
Spider43 : 9/10/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16604561 give66 said:
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These guys have been waterskiing behind the growth and success of the NFL for 75 years. Don't expect any changes.


Thank you. I think you mean a hundred years though. But yeah, like Jimmy Dolan, they're never going to sell. It's their cash cow. And their golden goose will keep laying golden eggs for them.
RE: As much as the Mara's love the Giants,  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/10/2024 4:32 pm : link
In comment 16604714 Bill in UT said:
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it sort of points out what happens when you have fans rather than professionals make the decisions

Which teams have professional owners?
RE: It is, I mentioned that yesterday.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/10/2024 4:56 pm : link
In comment 16604524 Section331 said:
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At least Wellington learned after is near-disastrous tenure with nephew Tim. He let the adults in the room make the decisions.
Wellington Mara learned that he was good at business matters but bad at football matters. He stepped away from running the team and became a revered figure for the entire league.

John and the rest of the Mara extended family should at least consider following his example. The football side has been as bad under their leadership as it was under Wellington Mara. The business side hasn't been stellar either but they probably can't screw that up as obviously as they have the football side.

I gather that there are some in the Mara family who really want to be in the football side of things. They probably should sell their shares and get hired by another team.

RE: RE: As much as the Mara's love the Giants,  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/10/2024 6:06 pm : link
In comment 16604828 Jim in Fairfax said:
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it sort of points out what happens when you have fans rather than professionals make the decisions


Which teams have professional owners?


LA Rams owner Stan Kroenke.

Besides Rams he owns the Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, Arsenal F.C. and MLS and pro lacrosse teams.

Not a passing hobby for his holding company.
RE: RE: As much as the Mara's love the Giants,  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 6:16 pm : link
In comment 16604828 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 16604714 Bill in UT said:


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it sort of points out what happens when you have fans rather than professionals make the decisions


Which teams have professional owners?


Sorry, I don't understand the question. I don't see how it's responsive to my quote that you used. If my comment wasn't clear, it was meant to refer to the Mara's as fans.
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