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If given the choice of Vrabel or BB in '25, who you picking?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2024 6:41 pm
This season already feels DOA so why not get a jump start on possible '25 HC candidates?

I'd be fine with either of them. I do think our next HC will be one with prior NFL HC experience, which I would support.
Vrabel  
M.S. : 9/10/2024 6:42 pm : link

Little Bill can be his D.C.
Vrabel makes so much sense  
bigblue12 : 9/10/2024 6:42 pm : link
One of the better coaches in the league. Reasonably young, but proven. His former GM and DC already in the building
Why would anyone  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 6:48 pm : link
of standing want to work for John Mara?
I'd want Vrabel, given the options  
BlackLight : 9/10/2024 6:50 pm : link
Romantics will want Belichick to come home, but I'm passing. He'll be 73 next fall (Coughlin was 69 when he forced out amid concerns that the game had passed him by), and he hadn't done well in New England after Brady left. And who the hell does he bring in as his OC and DC? Are we really going to have Joe Judge back in the building?
Vrabel 100%  
cjac : 9/10/2024 6:50 pm : link
I don’t think Belichick is going back into coaching

BB would be what 73  
Dave on the UWS : 9/10/2024 6:51 pm : link
and he hasn’t been good in years.
Vrabel is another story.
RE: Why would anyone  
BlackLight : 9/10/2024 6:51 pm : link
In comment 16604972 Bill in UT said:
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of standing want to work for John Mara?


Yeah, awful awful John Mara. Such a terrible person.
RE: Why would anyone  
Silver Spoon : 9/10/2024 7:08 pm : link
In comment 16604972 Bill in UT said:
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of standing want to work for John Mara?


This is very true. Good luck getting either of these two.
Belichick isn't going to work with Mara, who wants to have his nose  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/10/2024 7:12 pm : link
and his say on everything.

And anyway, why am I supposed to believe Belichick can see his way out of QB hell when the reason he has no coaching job is that he handpicked Mac Jones?
As a binary choice...  
bw in dc : 9/10/2024 7:13 pm : link
I'm going Vrabel. BB is an all-timer, but I'm going to assume he's hitting his expiration date - unfortunately.

BTW, I watched a lot of the Chargers/Raiders game on Sunday. JFC, what a beauty that was watching power football with Harbaugh. He's unbelievable.

It made me very envious of the Chargers timing that just right and spiteful we didn't get involved in those sweepstakes...
Bill in UT.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2024 7:14 pm : link
These dudes have healthy egos & I'm sure both Vrabel & BB think they can make it work. And I have no doubt both want back in as head coaches.
RE: Why would anyone  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/10/2024 7:14 pm : link
In comment 16604972 Bill in UT said:
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of standing want to work for John Mara?


Exactly.

The league knows.

bw in dc.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2024 7:15 pm : link
No chance in hell Mara would ever hire Harbaugh. That's why I laugh when people talk about the Giants possibly taking Shadeur next spring...that sure AF isn't happening.
Def Vrabel  
section125 : 9/10/2024 7:20 pm : link
Want no part of BB.
They should already be talking to Vrabel  
Go Terps : 9/10/2024 7:22 pm : link
He wants to bring Cowden to be the GM? Fine.

Ideally this would happen Monday morning so They could start trading everyone they can for picks.
RE: bw in dc.  
bw in dc : 9/10/2024 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16604998 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No chance in hell Mara would ever hire Harbaugh. That's why I laugh when people talk about the Giants possibly taking Shadeur next spring...that sure AF isn't happening.


I have to agree that Shadeur would give Palpitations even more palpitations.

I saw video from the Chargers locker room after they won. It was awesome.

"Who has it better than us?!?!.....nooooooboddddyyy!..."



RE: They should already be talking to Vrabel  
section125 : 9/10/2024 7:30 pm : link
In comment 16605003 Go Terps said:
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He wants to bring Cowden to be the GM? Fine.

Ideally this would happen Monday morning so They could start trading everyone they can for picks.


Who is they? The people you despise?
RE: They should already be talking to Vrabel  
Sean : 9/10/2024 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16605003 Go Terps said:
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He wants to bring Cowden to be the GM? Fine.

Ideally this would happen Monday morning so They could start trading everyone they can for picks.

I think Mara would like the idea of Vrabel because it wouldn't be a total overhaul. Cowden is already in the building. He's DC is already in the building. Maybe Vrabel would agree to work with Schoen since Schoen is very close with Cowden too.

It's an easy transition. I'm not crazy about Vrabel. I don't like how it ended in Tennessee and he never figured out QB there long term. However, I strongly prefer him to a first year HC.
If Vrabel would do it  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2024 7:36 pm : link
best case scenario would be cowden, Bill as HC and Vrabel as an assistsnt for a few yesrs than takes over
Belichick  
arniefez : 9/10/2024 8:32 pm : link
only because I've always rooted for him (except when he played the Giants) and I want to root for him as HC of the NYG.

I have no idea who the Giants should or shouldn't hire. I'm always wrong and easily fooled. The older I get the more I realize how little I know about what happens on an NFL field today.

All I care about at this point, what I want so badly, is for the Giants to find and hire people we can root for who can win NFL games.

RE: RE: Why would anyone  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 8:35 pm : link
In comment 16604978 BlackLight said:
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of standing want to work for John Mara?



Yeah, awful awful John Mara. Such a terrible person.


Nice person, to the extent it makes him an awful boss
RE: Bill in UT.  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16604996 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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These dudes have healthy egos & I'm sure both Vrabel & BB think they can make it work. And I have no doubt both want back in as head coaches.

I'm sure they do, but if they're that good they will have options. Why would they choose to work for a meddling loser?
RE: RE: Bill in UT.  
Mbavaro : 9/10/2024 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16605117 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16604996 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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These dudes have healthy egos & I'm sure both Vrabel & BB think they can make it work. And I have no doubt both want back in as head coaches.


I'm sure they do, but if they're that good they will have options. Why would they choose to work for a meddling loser?


Yet another Mara is meddling conspiracy theorist

Lame
RE: RE: RE: Bill in UT.  
Bill in UT : 9/10/2024 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16605140 Mbavaro said:
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In comment 16605117 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 16604996 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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These dudes have healthy egos & I'm sure both Vrabel & BB think they can make it work. And I have no doubt both want back in as head coaches.


I'm sure they do, but if they're that good they will have options. Why would they choose to work for a meddling loser?



Yet another Mara is meddling conspiracy theorist

Lame

Vs yet another Mara has nothing to do with anything head up his ass theory
RE: RE: RE: RE: Bill in UT.  
Mbavaro : 9/10/2024 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16605145 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16605117 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 16604996 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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These dudes have healthy egos & I'm sure both Vrabel & BB think they can make it work. And I have no doubt both want back in as head coaches.


I'm sure they do, but if they're that good they will have options. Why would they choose to work for a meddling loser?



Yet another Mara is meddling conspiracy theorist

Lame


Vs yet another Mara has nothing to do with anything head up his ass theory

Nice dodge
Provide proof of meddling
RE: RE: They should already be talking to Vrabel  
Go Terps : 9/10/2024 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16605008 section125 said:
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In comment 16605003 Go Terps said:


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He wants to bring Cowden to be the GM? Fine.

Ideally this would happen Monday morning so They could start trading everyone they can for picks.



Who is they? The people you despise?


What are you talking about?
RE: Why would anyone  
djm : 9/10/2024 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16604972 Bill in UT said:
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of standing want to work for John Mara?


Are people going to perpetuate this shit day in day out without any facts?

A lot of losing doesn’t necessarily mean Mara is a ranting and raving hybrid combo of Jim Dolan and George Steinbrenner.

RE: Belichick isn't going to work with Mara, who wants to have his nose  
djm : 9/10/2024 9:29 pm : link
In comment 16604994 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and his say on everything.

And anyway, why am I supposed to believe Belichick can see his way out of QB hell when the reason he has no coaching job is that he handpicked Mac Jones?


Are you saying Mara is more meddlesome than the average nfl team owner? I would question that.
A lot of owners actually have real jobs  
Jerry in_DC : 9/10/2024 9:35 pm : link
and don't spend all their days in the team facility, in meeting rooms, on the practice field...
Vrabel  
ajr2456 : 9/10/2024 9:42 pm : link
And i don’t think it’s close
But I’d rather Ben Johnson  
ajr2456 : 9/10/2024 9:42 pm : link
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RE: RE: Belichick isn't going to work with Mara, who wants to have his nose  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/10/2024 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16605169 djm said:
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In comment 16604994 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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and his say on everything.

And anyway, why am I supposed to believe Belichick can see his way out of QB hell when the reason he has no coaching job is that he handpicked Mac Jones?



Are you saying Mara is more meddlesome than the average nfl team owner? I would question that.


Im not saying that, but he is very clearly involved in the day to day, and so are his family members. In fact they're in decisionmaking roles in football personnel.

Belichick ran football operations and delegated to his handpicked guys in NE. That would never happen here. Hes not coming here at age 73 to work in a Giants football-by-committee approach or have to explain his thought process to John. He wants to win enough games to pass shula and retire, not save John from himself and dig out of a hole.

And John doesnt want to be sent off to the sideline to watch like a fan either. He's involved because he wanrs to be and feels like he has a right to be despite 1 winning season in 10 years.
Vrabel would be my choice over BB  
Rick in Dallas : 9/10/2024 10:09 pm : link
Believe he would change the culture in the locker room
Also have a plan to finally compete at the LOS on both sides of the ball.
Vrabel and it isn't close  
Chef : 9/10/2024 10:10 pm : link
BB is just to old and has been slipping a while now...
Given that choice Vrabel  
moespree : 9/10/2024 10:22 pm : link
I'd rather they hire neither of them though.
either one is good with me  
Eric on Li : 9/10/2024 10:23 pm : link
if you can interview both go with whoever has the best plan to bring in a shanahan/mcvay tree offensive system.
BB…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/11/2024 12:17 am : link
….The Secratariet of coaches returning to his home stable! Send the grifters, BD and JS packing, take DJ with them!
BB…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/11/2024 12:57 am : link
….The Secratariet of coaches returning to his home stable! Send the grifters, BD and JS packing, take DJ with them!
Probably Vrabel  
SomeFan : 9/11/2024 9:54 am : link
because he is younger so could be a long-term HC. However, I was never impressed with how he came off on Hard Knocks a few years ago but can't argue that he has had success (though not great success) as a HC.
Vrabel. Belichick hasn't had much success without Brady  
Ira : 9/11/2024 11:30 am : link
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Why wait?  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/11/2024 11:32 am : link
Fire Daboll now and bring Vrable here now, he already has his former DC in Bowen. If BB were to be hired, Schoen may as well leave as well.
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