If Giants don't like top QB prospects '25 draft

of Arch Manning on this site? The kid will have spent 2 years on the bench at Texas.

In comment 16605245 Bill in UT said:

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of Arch Manning on this site? The kid will have spent 2 years on the bench at Texas.

Do you have to ask? I mean, it's so predictable and easy to draw the lines...

If they miss on out Arch, wait until these posters find out about Marshall Manning, Peyton's son.

Instead of truly finding the best talent, let's find the best NYG prototype.

for why we shouldn't draft a QB. At some point you have to at least try and find one.

Perfect.

In comment 16605252 LW_Giants said:

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for why we shouldn't draft a QB. At some point you have to at least try and find one.

Sure but you also can't force it lest you end up with a bust

In comment 16605257 Giantsfan79 said:

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In comment 16605252 LW_Giants said: Quote: for why we shouldn't draft a QB. At some point you have to at least try and find one. Sure but you also can't force it lest you end up with a bust

They haven't drafted a QB in six years, that's hardly forcing it.

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The fact that you need to “love” the QB to draft him but eventually you have to pulled trigger and draft a guy. At this rate we ma never draft another QB again. This team has back themselves into a corner and pretty much had no choice. We need a QB

Out of Ewers, Dart, Sanders, Ward and Beck.

Why would Arch Manning come out after next year? So, he goes to Texas to wait two years and enters the NFL after only playing 1 year at Texas? Highly unlikely.

???

than what we now have. I wouldn't wait until 2026 or beyond and I would trade for a current QB as a stop-gap only if it didn't interfere in the ability to draft a QB next year.

In the first round (that includes Dave Brown as a supplemental)

- Daniel Jones 2019
- Philip Rivers 2004 (to trade for Eli )
- Dave Brown 1994 (supplemental)
- Phil Simms 1979
- Lee Grosscup 1959
- Travis Tidwell 1950

In fact that Giants have only drafted 4 additional QBs in rds 2-3 in their entire 100 history

(Webb, Hostetler and two guys in the early 1950s)

Just 10 QBs total in the top 3 rds of the draft in 100 years

they don’t really like them. They “like” DJ and what did that get them?

Time to mix things up a bit.

They will go the vet route regardless, i dont know who is available or going to be via trade..

I do think they will draft one as well

than people thought, I think we will have a good selection of very capable QBs to pick from. I really like this upcoming QB class

4 years of college written all over him.

Plus, the 2025 QB class is shaping up to be a very nice looking group.

But a question for BBI QB gurus. Is his kind of side arm delivery concerning?

They need a veteran QB who is capable of running at least a competent offense. You can't go in assuming you will get the QB you want and that he will be ready to start week 1. From there, they need to be aggressive and get their guy, ideally round 1. Even if in round 2, they need to have drafted a QB before the start of day 3.

Whats another season of shitty quarterback play?

Don't Make Draft Day into Coronation Day. We are not picking our QB for the next 10 years. We are picking a talented QB prospect.

And if they don't like the QBs? Ok - then just deploy a true Zero QB strategy. This is becoming more feasible as QB salaries explode. Commit to the pipeline. Build the team. Don't Don't Don't pay $40 M if a guy has an ok season. Just find the next guys to do it.

I think the odds of Jones being the 2025 opening day starter are still greater than 50/50.

I dont know what to tell you. It would be the wet dream of wet dreams for this franchise

In comment 16605596 Jerry in_DC said:

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Don't Make Draft Day into Coronation Day. We are not picking our QB for the next 10 years. We are picking a talented QB prospect. And if they don't like the QBs? Ok - then just deploy a true Zero QB strategy. This is becoming more feasible as QB salaries explode. Commit to the pipeline. Build the team. Don't Don't Don't pay $40 M if a guy has an ok season. Just find the next guys to do it.

Exactly right. A Zero Quarterback Strategy is good way of thinking about it. Every year until you have identified your elite guy, there should be a vet (modest one year contract), a blue chip prospect and a developmental prospect on the roster and a developmental prospect on the practice squad. The total cap hit of the quarterback room should be less than five percent. And then each year, at least two quarterbacks should be brought in to compete fiercely for these four positions.

There should never again be any kind of scholarship or anointment. The starter is the guy who vigorously earns his way to the role. If you have the proper coaching environment and are building the rest of the roster properly with this kind of cap allocation, at the very least, you should get quarterback play from such a meritocratic approach to playoff contending every year.

In comment 16605565 Tittle 9 20 64 said:

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But a question for BBI QB gurus. Is his kind of side arm delivery concerning?

He can throw from various angles. In fact, his throwing reminds me very much of LJax.

To me, Ward is more of a thrower/playmaker right now than passer. Which wouldn't bother me.

1) Arch is still on the bench. And, people were saying the same thing last season in order to land Arch in the 2025 draft.

2) This is a terrible idea. You would trade out of a potentially prime draft slot in 2025 to land a 2026 slot in hopes that a) Arch wins the starting job next year, b) Arch plays well enough to warrant entering the draft and getting taken in a prime slot, c) your slot aligns with when he will be available or you are trading more draft capital to make that happen and d) You are hoping or planning on the Giants being bad enough THIS year AND NEXT year to make this happen. And all this just because the kid's name is manning and dominated overmatched HS kids? No thanks.

put themselves in the position where they have to force a QB pick or FA signing whether they like them or not. They put themselves in this predicament. I think I'm at the point that I'll actively refuse to watch Giants games next season if Jones is still on the roster come opening day 2025.

In comment 16605643 Go Terps said:

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I think the odds of Jones being the 2025 opening day starter are still greater than 50/50.

I agree. Or higher

... the Giants might be able to get him in the fourth round. He needs to step up in college and prove he has the goods.