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New York Giants Updates - September 11, 2024

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 7:24 am

Wednesday, September 11, 2024

Head Coach Brian Daboll Available – Approx. 12:30 p.m.

Practice – 12:45 p.m. – 2:45 p.m.

Players Available – Approx. 2:55 p.m.

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Had This Convo With My Daughter  
Bernie : 9/11/2024 11:36 am : link
The only way the Giants move forward over the coming years is to draft the next QB. It’s going to take another shit season to be in the best position to do so without paying a kings ransom to trade up. It’s going to be painful, but necessary. No more Pyrrhic victories for this franchise.
If Daboll doesn’t make the change to Lock or DeVito soon  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/11/2024 11:40 am : link
He will lose the team and his job. Jones has looked cooked since that Seattle game last year. Lock and DeVito aren’t great but they at least give the team a chance at making plays down the field.
larryflower37  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 11:42 am : link
You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half empty seats in October.
I'm going to be so pissed on Sunday  
UberAlias : 9/11/2024 11:42 am : link
when they start out on O with a run and then an ineffective quick out that gets dropped. Maybe they'll finish the 3 and out with a draw.

None of this, get the QB easy stuff to get into a rhythm BS. Nothing is easy for him. Defenses are sitting back waiting for that shit, have been for a year plus. Daboll has to tell him, attack the defense downfield or I'm yanking you. Jones doesn't need kid gloves. He's paid a ton of money. He needs a kick in the ass and to know, perform or go.
RE: If Daboll doesn’t make the change to Lock or DeVito soon  
larryflower37 : 9/11/2024 11:46 am : link
In comment 16605566 JoeyBigBlue said:
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He will lose the team and his job. Jones has looked cooked since that Seattle game last year. Lock and DeVito aren’t great but they at least give the team a chance at making plays down the field.


I'm afraid I have to disagree the organization looked fully behind Jones and they brought in zero competition. They are rolling with Jones and will reset with a new QB next season, Daboll will coach him up the best they can for this year until they are out of the playoff hunt and bench him for the injury guarantee but no one in the organization has hit the panic button after week 1.
RE: larryflower37  
larryflower37 : 9/11/2024 11:52 am : link
In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:
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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.


Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.
RE: RE: It's also about not completely losing the team  
NJLCO : 9/11/2024 11:56 am : link
In comment 16605542 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16605539 Greg from LI said:


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You can't tell me that the team doesn't go out there expecting the worst because their starting QB clearly doesn't belong on the field.



Yup.

Can you imagine what was going through the minds of the players after the pick 6?

+100%. Anyone that played team sports at any competitive level knows this to be true. The cream comes to the top sooner than later and we’re on year 6. That dog doesn’t hunt
I dont know why this is an argument  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/11/2024 12:04 pm : link
In the End of Days for Judge that stadium had empty seats and ownership was not happy.

Theres a lot of criticisms of John Mara, but "he doesnt care, he just counts his money" is flatly incorrect.
Probably dumb - possible to trade for Tyrod?  
Matt123 : 9/11/2024 12:12 pm : link
I can't believe that's something I'm even asking. This is sad.

RE: Probably dumb - possible to trade for Tyrod?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16605609 Matt123 said:
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I can't believe that's something I'm even asking. This is sad.


Why? So the team might win a few more games? Is that worth losing a draft pick and draft position?
RE: RE: larryflower37  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16605583 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:


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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.



Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.


History is not on your side. Recent history no less.
RE: RE: Probably dumb - possible to trade for Tyrod?  
Matt123 : 9/11/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16605624 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16605609 Matt123 said:


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I can't believe that's something I'm even asking. This is sad.




Why? So the team might win a few more games? Is that worth losing a draft pick and draft position?


I get it, better draft position for the new regime.

I just have a hard time calling for a tank before week 2. I want them to pull me in, give me some glimmer of hope. Give me an excuse to watch the games.

...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:32 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - gunner muasau slayton mcloud will not work today
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:32 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Rookie LB Darius Muasau, who started in Week 1, has a knee injury and is day to day, Brian Daboll says
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:33 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll on jones - actually, got to build everybody back up..16 teams lost wk 1...keep a positive attitude and do what is needed to prepare - mental toughness...focus on what is important..practice with right mindset

#Giants100 Daboll - nobody did well enough in wk 1...it is a team sport...has to be fixed...locked and loaded now and have a good practice
RE: RE: larryflower37  
mako J : 9/11/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16605583 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:


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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.



Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.


Refreshing. So the sky isn’t falling?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:35 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll on jayden daniels - he is a good player...athletic and dynamic...they played a good TB team..he did some good things and scrambled well

#Giants100 Daboll - wash has a lot of good pieces ...mclauren, robinson, eckeler, etc
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:36 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - knows dan quinn style teams and has tape of daniels from wk 1 plus LSU

#Giants100 Daboll - had put a lot of work into daniels cutups at LSU so he got a jump on what to tell the defensive staff
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:37 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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How do Giants get Malik Nabers more involved? Brian Daboll: “Throw him the ball.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:41 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#Giants100 Daboll - will move around nabers and try to get him the ball....slayton - been progress with concussion but every player is different (no physical activity yet)

#Giants100 Daboll - wash defense foced seven negative plays vs TB....mayfield made some good plays to beat them and played well
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:42 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Darius Slayton is on the practice field today, and is warming up but not practicing. So he’s still in the concussion protocol but hopefully responds well to this next step #Giants
RE: ...  
ILGMan : 9/11/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16605639 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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How do Giants get Malik Nabers more involved? Brian Daboll: “Throw him the ball.”


That says a lot (I am assuming context). Seems like he thinks he's open too.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:46 pm : link
Dan Salomone

@Dan_Salomone
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Brian Daboll said the following players won’t practice today: WR/PR Gunner Olszewski (groin), WR Darius Slayton (concussion protocol), LB Darius Muasau (knee), and CB Nick McCloud (knee).
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PatersonPlank : 9/11/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16605652 ILGMan said:
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In comment 16605639 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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How do Giants get Malik Nabers more involved? Brian Daboll: “Throw him the ball.”



That says a lot (I am assuming context). Seems like he thinks he's open too.


Yep, this says all you need to know about Jones play
RE: Could just be the gameplan for 1 game  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/11/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16605345 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Looked like they wanted to play a little heavier and intended to run the ball or at least look like they intended to run the ball.


If so, nice adjustments by the Giants. 🙄🤦‍♂️
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 12:51 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Darius Slayton remains in concussion protocol. He will not participate in practice today, but will warm up with the team and then head to the side.

Asked Brian Daboll if it was as simple as Jalin Hyatt stepping into that spot: Yup. #Giants100
RE: RE: ...  
Biteymax22 : 9/11/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16605652 ILGMan said:
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In comment 16605639 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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How do Giants get Malik Nabers more involved? Brian Daboll: “Throw him the ball.”



That says a lot (I am assuming context). Seems like he thinks he's open too.


He made a few comments during the post game presser that I think were also directed towards Daniel for not looking Malik's way more or pulling the trigger. This is another example.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 1:10 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daboll was asked what he wants the offense’s ID to be: “Scoring points.”

He was asked how to get Malik Nabers more involved: “Throw him the ball.”

Keeping it simple!
Blah blah blah  
UberAlias : 9/11/2024 1:29 pm : link
Someone needs to call him out on this good week of practice BS.

Someone needs to ask, "You tell us you had week of practice a week ago and then you went out and crapped the bed. Explain to me why I should care that you had another good week of practice?"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 1:31 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
WR Darius Slayton (concussion), LB Darius Muasau (knee) and CB Nick McCloud (knee) were on the side with trainers. Daboll said Muasau and McCloud are “day-to-day.” Slayton being on the field is a promising sign for his progress in the concussion protocol.

No sign of WR Gunner Olszewski (groin). Daboll said he’ll be out for “weeks.” Imagine he’ll land on IR by the end of the week.
RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16605728 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
WR Darius Slayton (concussion), LB Darius Muasau (knee) and CB Nick McCloud (knee) were on the side with trainers. Daboll said Muasau and McCloud are “day-to-day.” Slayton being on the field is a promising sign for his progress in the concussion protocol.

No sign of WR Gunner Olszewski (groin). Daboll said he’ll be out for “weeks.” Imagine he’ll land on IR by the end of the week.


I know the human body is not a predictable thing, but how in the world did our trainers think Gunner was going to be able to play when he couldn't even make it through warm-ups?

There is a divide on BBI about the trainers/medicals team, but things like this matter. We're not too far removed when the Giants put Ezeudu back in the game with a neck injury.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 1:34 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Replying to
@DDuggan21
Seems like Micah McFadden is trending toward returning to the lineup after not playing a snap in the opener due to a groin injury.
RE: RE: larryflower37  
Mike from SI : 9/11/2024 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16605583 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:


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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.



Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.


I don't know for certain, but I assume they make a ton of money off concessions. The margins on fountain soda tend to be very high, for example. The Yankees used to get killed in the media for always opening the Stadium for obvious rainouts-to-be and then sending fans home after they got in the ballpark and bought their drinks and food. (I have a friend who did DD on two separate U.S. sports franchises, I'll ask him if he has a sense.)

The optics are also horrendous, and as Eric said, it's led to change a lot recently.
Mike from SI  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 1:44 pm : link
In recent years, the networks (corporate America) have tried to help Mara by not showing the entire stadium. It's all part of the great pretending society we now live in. But they can't completely hide it and when you get glimpses of 1/3 to 1/2 of the stadium empty, reality sinks in.

If this team is 0-3 and Daniel is still QB, look out.
Daboll named quarterback guru....Brian, What did you do to earn this?  
GiantBlue : 9/11/2024 1:47 pm : link
I handed the QB the ball.
I told him to throw the ball.
I told the WR to run out there somewhere.
I told the QB to throw the ball somewhere near the wr.
If scary men in other uniforms come at you, duck or run.
If you run, look around for another receiver in our jersey.
If you throw it to a person in the other uniform, let him run past you into the other end zone so you don't get hurt.
RE: Mike from SI  
Mike from SI : 9/11/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16605749 Eric from BBI said:
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In recent years, the networks (corporate America) have tried to help Mara by not showing the entire stadium. It's all part of the great pretending society we now live in. But they can't completely hide it and when you get glimpses of 1/3 to 1/2 of the stadium empty, reality sinks in.

If this team is 0-3 and Daniel is still QB, look out.


I totally believe it. I was at the game Sunday (apparently I'm a fool) and a ton of fans left in the 3rd quarter. I stayed because I was sitting with 2 friends whom I rarely get to see, but otherwise I would have considered it. And a few of the people I saw leaving had previously told me they're season ticket holders.
I don't see how Jones makes it that far  
UberAlias : 9/11/2024 1:50 pm : link
DJ has never been a good QB, but this version of him ('23 and '24) is flat out broken. As bad as he was, he had always thrown more TDs than INTs and highest INTs were rookie season at 12. Whatever happened phytologically a year ago between the abominable Oline and injuries he suffered, he's broken. The '23 and '24 offenses with him are as bad as the end of the Judge era.
RE: RE: RE: larryflower37  
uther99 : 9/11/2024 2:06 pm : link
In comment 16605742 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 16605583 larryflower37 said:


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In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:


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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.



Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.



I don't know for certain, but I assume they make a ton of money off concessions. The margins on fountain soda tend to be very high, for example. The Yankees used to get killed in the media for always opening the Stadium for obvious rainouts-to-be and then sending fans home after they got in the ballpark and bought their drinks and food. (I have a friend who did DD on two separate U.S. sports franchises, I'll ask him if he has a sense.)

The optics are also horrendous, and as Eric said, it's led to change a lot recently.


From what I have read, the bulk of the NFL team income is from TV and sponsorships.

https://www.sportico.com/feature/how-sports-teams-leagues-make-money-1234766931/
RE: Mike from SI  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/11/2024 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16605749 Eric from BBI said:
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In recent years, the networks (corporate America) have tried to help Mara by not showing the entire stadium. It's all part of the great pretending society we now live in. But they can't completely hide it and when you get glimpses of 1/3 to 1/2 of the stadium empty, reality sinks in.

If this team is 0-3 and Daniel is still QB, look out.


You mean the American corporations that make billions and "Pretend" to care about us?...
RE: RE: RE: RE: larryflower37  
Mike from SI : 9/11/2024 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16605781 uther99 said:
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In comment 16605742 Mike from SI said:


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In comment 16605583 larryflower37 said:


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In comment 16605567 Eric from BBI said:


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You haven't been paying attention for the last 12 years.

Empty seats have caused unprecedented turnover in GMs and HCs. Why? Empty seats.

We're about to see half-empty seats in October.



Paid for empty seats. The stadium is sold out and you might not get the parking and concessions but it's not the loss of revenue that hurts
The organization is tone-deaf to it and will continue on the course it has put out. I believe everyone will be back next year and draft a top 3 QB and fill the stadium like Washington and the Bears are doing right now.
We will all be excited at draft time etc... Vent and flip out but no one actually walks away.



I don't know for certain, but I assume they make a ton of money off concessions. The margins on fountain soda tend to be very high, for example. The Yankees used to get killed in the media for always opening the Stadium for obvious rainouts-to-be and then sending fans home after they got in the ballpark and bought their drinks and food. (I have a friend who did DD on two separate U.S. sports franchises, I'll ask him if he has a sense.)

The optics are also horrendous, and as Eric said, it's led to change a lot recently.



From what I have read, the bulk of the NFL team income is from TV and sponsorships.

https://www.sportico.com/feature/how-sports-teams-leagues-make-money-1234766931/


Thank you for sharing. A lot of those other revenue streams may be locked in, and 6% of a large number is still a significant number. Especially for the Maras, since this is their only real source of income.

But perhaps you're right, no one knows for sure.
RE: I think this team will make a big leap on offense this week  
56goat : 9/11/2024 3:26 pm : link
In comment 16605489 SGMen said:
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My reasoning is simple: they were not ready to play last week and the penalties, lack of execution and misfires showed that they hadn't practiced enough at real speed.

I'm taking game 1 as the last pre-season game and the start of our season this week. Beat the Commanders and then beat 2 - 0 Dallas and all will be well.

Lose the next two games and its over for this team this year as well as next because Mara will need to clean house and start over yet again. Guys like Jones, Slayton will be gone and a new offense installed.


Denial - it ain't just a river.
John is a “fan”  
Dave on the UWS : 9/11/2024 3:33 pm : link
like the rest of us. As the owner he has power the rest of us don’t.
When he sees half empty stadiums, it makes his blood boil and he is triggered to act.
I could see him telling Daboll to bench Jones (if that’s what he feels is driving the fans away.)
RE: John is a “fan”  
larryflower37 : 9/11/2024 3:38 pm : link
In comment 16605928 Dave on the UWS said:
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like the rest of us. As the owner he has power the rest of us don’t.
When he sees half empty stadiums, it makes his blood boil and he is triggered to act.
I could see him telling Daboll to bench Jones (if that’s what he feels is driving the fans away.)

Unless he is a Daniel Jones fan and the Mara's have in the past stick with players they like personally
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 3:51 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
GIANTS INJURY REPORT

Did Not Participate in Practice:
▪️ CB Nick McCloud (Knee)
▪️ LB Darius Muasau (Knee)
▪️ WR Gunner Olszewski (Groin)
▪️ WR Darius Slayton (Concussion Protocol)

Full:
▪️ LB Micah McFadden (Groin)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2024 4:16 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
CB/LB Isaiah Simmons said it was the first time in his life he's ever not played a defensive snap in a game. Called it "shocking" and "confusing." He didn't see it coming until practice last week. Hoping he's implemented more in the game plan this week.

Simmons: "Hopefully they know what they're doing more than I think I know what I'm doing. So I'm just trusting the process and hopefully thinking things are best for the team. But personally, I love to be out there, sh*t, every snap. I feel like there's a lot of different ways I can help the guys.

"So like I said, nobody ever wants to not be in there, so not being in the game plan was frustrating as hell, but I'm just controlling what I can control right now."

Simmons said a lot of these decisions were above his paygrade.

#Giants
RE: ...  
NYGiantFL007 : 9/11/2024 4:32 pm : link
In comment 16606010 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
CB/LB Isaiah Simmons said it was the first time in his life he's ever not played a defensive snap in a game. Called it "shocking" and "confusing." He didn't see it coming until practice last week. Hoping he's implemented more in the game plan this week.

Simmons: "Hopefully they know what they're doing more than I think I know what I'm doing. So I'm just trusting the process and hopefully thinking things are best for the team. But personally, I love to be out there, sh*t, every snap. I feel like there's a lot of different ways I can help the guys.

"So like I said, nobody ever wants to not be in there, so not being in the game plan was frustrating as hell, but I'm just controlling what I can control right now."

Simmons said a lot of these decisions were above his paygrade.

#Giants


This Team I just can't follow the thread any longer.
RE: ...  
Chris684 : 9/11/2024 4:34 pm : link
In comment 16606010 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
CB/LB Isaiah Simmons said it was the first time in his life he's ever not played a defensive snap in a game. Called it "shocking" and "confusing." He didn't see it coming until practice last week. Hoping he's implemented more in the game plan this week.

Simmons: "Hopefully they know what they're doing more than I think I know what I'm doing. So I'm just trusting the process and hopefully thinking things are best for the team. But personally, I love to be out there, sh*t, every snap. I feel like there's a lot of different ways I can help the guys.

"So like I said, nobody ever wants to not be in there, so not being in the game plan was frustrating as hell, but I'm just controlling what I can control right now."

Simmons said a lot of these decisions were above his paygrade.

#Giants


Lost in the Jones mess is that we have some other potential locker room issues potentially creeping up.

Kayvon and Simmons just to name a few already venting or showing frustration.
Is Daboll speaking to his players  
M.S. : 9/11/2024 4:39 pm : link
And giving them a heads up about what’s going down? Almost doesn’t sound that way with Simmons.
Simmons' problem is that we have 3 safeties  
BigBlueNH : 9/11/2024 4:56 pm : link
who are better than him on passing downs. And he's not going to play on running downs.

Id give him a shot rushing the passer on 3rd and long. Can't be worse than Ojulari. Otherwise, I don't see a role for him, absent injury.
RE: RE: ...  
section125 : 9/11/2024 5:05 pm : link
In comment 16606042 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16606010 Eric from BBI said:


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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
CB/LB Isaiah Simmons said it was the first time in his life he's ever not played a defensive snap in a game. Called it "shocking" and "confusing." He didn't see it coming until practice last week. Hoping he's implemented more in the game plan this week.

Simmons: "Hopefully they know what they're doing more than I think I know what I'm doing. So I'm just trusting the process and hopefully thinking things are best for the team. But personally, I love to be out there, sh*t, every snap. I feel like there's a lot of different ways I can help the guys.

"So like I said, nobody ever wants to not be in there, so not being in the game plan was frustrating as hell, but I'm just controlling what I can control right now."

Simmons said a lot of these decisions were above his paygrade.

#Giants



Lost in the Jones mess is that we have some other potential locker room issues potentially creeping up.

Kayvon and Simmons just to name a few already venting or showing frustration.


Perhaps Thibodeaux should concentrate on making a play or two before lipping off.
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