First Head Coach Fired
Brian Daboll
3/1
Dennis Allen
4/1
Robert Saleh
9/1
Kevin Stefanski
10/1
Doug Pederson
11/1
Antonio Pierce
12/1
Mike McCarthy
12/1
Todd Bowles
16/1
Kevin O'Connell
20/1
Matt Eberflus
20/1
Sean McDermott
20/1
Jonathan Gannon
25/1
Nick Sirianni
25/1
Sean Payton
25/1
Zac Taylor
25/1
Dan Quinn
40/1
Dave Canales
50/1
Matt LaFleur
50/1
Mike McDaniel
50/1
Mike Tomlin
50/1
Sean McVay
50/1
Shane Steichen
66/1
Brian Callahan
75/1
Demeco Ryans
100/1
Jerod Mayo
100/1
John Harbaugh
100/1
Kyle Shanahan
100/1
Raheem Morris
100/1
Mike Macdonald
150/1
Dan Campbell
200/1
Jim Harbaugh
250/1
Andy Reid
500/1
- Daboll 9/1 to 3/1 (favorite)
- Allen 2/1 to 4/1
- McCarthy 12/1 to 6/1
- Bowles 8/1 to 16/1
- Pederson 16/1 to 11/1
If they go into that 0-3 and look bad at home it could get ugly.
I still like the Jets to be pretty good this year, especially if Rodgers has something left in the tank. But damn, there's definitely some implosion potential there according to Vegas.
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
Could you imagine if the next HC is at the podium in January of 2025 answering questions about Daniel Jones? I can hear it now. "What I know about Daniel is how hard a worker he is. In fact, I saw him here working out at 6am. Can't wait to work with him!" Patient zero.
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
They tried #3 last season - ie, starting a UDFA at QB - and we saw how that worked out...
I'm hate-following at this point. I think I've come to hate the Giants as much as I hate the Eagles.
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But it is likely part of the best set of actions to manifest rock bottom in 2024 and begin moving forward properly in 2025:
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
Could you imagine if the next HC is at the podium in January of 2025 answering questions about Daniel Jones? I can hear it now. "What I know about Daniel is how hard a worker he is. In fact, I saw him here working out at 6am. Can't wait to work with him!" Patient zero.
I would love to know if any quarterback has survived more coaching and GM firings, including all of the position coaches and other administrative GM jobs, than DJ. At the very least, DJ is unquestionably on the Mount Rushmore of such a group...
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But it is likely part of the best set of actions to manifest rock bottom in 2024 and begin moving forward properly in 2025:
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
They tried #3 last season - ie, starting a UDFA at QB - and we saw how that worked out...
Have you seen Drew Lock play the quarterback position?
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
I agree with all this except that you think sitting Daniel Jones (starting Drew Lock) makes a top 3 draft spot MORE likely?
Any chance Eric you have the odds prior to the game? Be interesting to compare the impact game 1 had.
At what point does this organization wake up?
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But it is likely part of the best set of actions to manifest rock bottom in 2024 and begin moving forward properly in 2025:
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
They tried #3 last season - ie, starting a UDFA at QB - and we saw how that worked out...
They've been starting a UDFA since 2019.
It is like being a mountain climber and your ropes break most of the way up a cliff wall.
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But it is likely part of the best set of actions to manifest rock bottom in 2024 and begin moving forward properly in 2025:
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
I agree with all this except that you think sitting Daniel Jones (starting Drew Lock) makes a top 3 draft spot MORE likely?
Yes, very true and fair enough. But I see no way you can march DJ out again in front of the fans at MetLife in prime time against the Cowboys. Frankly, I will be surprised if he survives until the second half on Sunday. So Lock is the next best alternative.
I think he'd have to kill someone, come out on bail, and then kill again. If he killed 1 person they might try to ride it out lol.
Here are the notable movements:
- Daboll 9/1 to 3/1 (favorite)
- Allen 2/1 to 4/1
- McCarthy 12/1 to 6/1
- Bowles 8/1 to 16/1
- Pederson 16/1 to 11/1
I think McCarthy should say started 6/1 now 12/1?
I'm way more interested in how he progresses through a season than how the first week looks. In his previous two years he's found ways to adjust and win games that were seemingly low-odds victories.
But that tread water approach, and making the best of bad situations, isn't how you ultimately compete for a championship. You have to make the best of good situations.
No matter who the decision-maker is, Daboll is the guy who has to operate with Jones at the wheel. And appears Daboll acquiesced. He needs to stand up and demand better situations.
Any chance Eric you have the odds prior to the game? Be interesting to compare the impact game 1 had.
I posted them in the first response to my original post.
I'd especially like to see Schoen go.
1) trade assets for 2025 draft capital value at the trade deadline (ie, Slayton)
2) fire Schoen and Daboll at the bye with Kafka taking over as acting head coach for the final seven weeks of the season
3) manage game outcomes to ensure a 2025 top three draft position (ie, start Drew Lock immediately)
3 ..... Lose on purpose? After 1 game?
That would've absolutely bought them time
That would've absolutely bought them time
Passing on QB in R1 and not bringing in a passer from FA to split snaps with the 1st offense is the dinger. They had no business doing that with Jones because of the injuries he was coming off from, which Schoen mentioned several times in Hard Knocks. Now they add in they must avoid the injury guarantee.
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Whatever. At this rate, both him and Schoen can go.
I'd especially like to see Schoen go.
Me too. I still think Daboll is a quality coach, he's shown over the past 2 seasons that he can make chicken salad out of chicken shit. I've seen little out of Schoen that gives me confidence.
The reality is that if Schoen goes, Daboll is gone too. I won't cry about it, they've done enough to warrant it, but I can't see how any GM/HC duo can succeed with this arrangement.
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I will say - Schoen and Daboll have some pretty big balls passing on a round 1 QB.
That would've absolutely bought them time
Passing on QB in R1 and not bringing in a passer from FA to split snaps with the 1st offense is the dinger. They had no business doing that with Jones because of the injuries he was coming off from, which Schoen mentioned several times in Hard Knocks. Now they add in they must avoid the injury guarantee.
To me, it's the latter. I understand passing on a QB if you're really only sold on the 2 who were already drafted, especially when you have an elite talent at a position of need available.
It is not bringing in a 2nd QB capable of winning games that is especially egregious. Even if they believed a healthy Jones could take them to the playoffs, his injury history necessitated having someone capable behind him That alone is indefensible.