I know how much he loves the Giants organzation, but he will no doubt want alot of power and I just dont see the Giants willing to give one person that much authority over the operation
and has not done well picking talent in years. Hes a master of maximizing what he has i will give him that. This defense would play much more consistently.
Dallas or Buffalo would be enticing spots if I were BB; if one or both teams disappoint this year.
Giants and getting a rookie might take awhile. But, you never know. People getting to the finish line have very personal motivations imo.
after three seasons so you can hire a 73 year old guy to take over for as long as it takes him to claim the the NFL record for career wins, you gotta do it.
Of course Belichick was a terrible GM at the end, but if Mara is going to dump both Schoen and Daboll to go after Belichick, the chances are high it will wind up being both jobs.
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, but that's the end way of the Giants these days.
but BB is still one of the greatest defensive minds of all-time. I could see it working if he was HC focusing on defense, with bright/talented minds as GM & OC.
But if he really just wanted to break the wins record, why in the world would he come here? It would have to be a labor of love.
Hope not. Love the Bells, but his time has passed.
You get Belichick, you get the lesser Belichickians and the rest of his entourage along with him. He didn't build anything in NE after Brady left and ended his tenure on a 4-13 low note.
73 years old to START the next rebuild when the Belichick name has lost it's luster? Pass.
Handing over the franchise to a 70+ year old who has a very questionable record as a GM is a bad, bad idea. I’m 70+ and there is no way i could hand a 24/7/365 job like that much less two jobs. I’m hoping Dallas gets him.
why we're supposed to factor in Belichick's success as a DC with the Giants 35 years ago into the logic of hiring him as a HC now.
At some point, you lose your fastball. Maybe BB needed a year off to recharge his batteries and freshen up his perspective. But the odds are, he's simply over the hill. And it seems like the principle benefit of hiring him will be to make fans (especially lifers) feel better about the state of the franchise being in the dumper.
but I think too many are sleeping on why BB wants to get back into coaching. He wants Shula’s record and he wants a SB win without Brady, neither of which is happening here any time soon. He’s not coming her for a rebuild, unless there are no other offers.
PFO, I’d be on that in a hot minute. Yeah, yeah, he doesn’t have a great track record acquiring talent, but would you prefer one of Mara’s lackeys? Kevin. Abrams, anyone?
Sack Daboll during this season and bring BB here now to set up for next season.
It's the only way to generate any sort of hope for the fans this season. This season seems to be shot already, and we'll have to watch a horrible QB ruin the hopes for the fans again.
if the they clean house i dont see how he's not the odds on favorite
mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
RE: RE: if the they clean house i dont see how he's not the odds on favorite
mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
I would probably trust him to draft a QB. Not sure I'd trust him to develop that guy.
mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
he may. ive long expected him to land in dallas when mccarthy inevitably craps out again. but bb saw last year, there are no givens. he went for jobs and didnt get them. if an owner he respected offered him total control before a better job is open, would he pass on it? he learned last year unlike brady he's not assured to find what he wants.
re the second question do i trust BB to find the next QB? no i dont. but i also dont have the name of someone id trust more than him either, so that's kind of a useless question. mcvay and reid are probably the 2 guys id trust to do that and they arent available.
so im willing to settle for a guy who will bring in a lot of winning traits, a winning attitude, at minimum probably get the defense back into the top 10 consistently, and hopefully find the next versions of caserio, mayo, vrabel, bob, types to keep the organization moving in the right direction after he hopefully gets things back on track.
i would hope he is coming in with an offensive plan built around finding a way to steal from what has worked so well with the shanahan/mcvay guys. ryans, mcdaniel, koc, etc.
1) I still think BB can coach.
2) He LOVES the Giants organization. Watch his 'Football Life' or the 'Two Bills' 30 for 30. It is so obvious how much love he has for the franchise.
3) I think the idea of BB 'returning home' is strong with Mara.
Also, bringing in BB brings immediate credibility to the Giant. Immediate. He's the HC GOAT. As long as he's not playing GM too-I still think BB the GM killed BB the HC in Foxoboro-I'm fine with bringing him on. & yes, I'd like to talk to him about the succession plan post him because he's no spring chicken obviously.
RE: RE: if the they clean house i dont see how he's not the odds on favorite
mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
To me the strategy needs to move away from building everything around the QB. Just because they move on from Jones doesn't mean QB is solved. (And let's see them move on from Jones first before we assume anything, by the way)
If I'm running the Giants I try to get back to the roots of the two good eras most of us have seen: focus on building a big, powerful team dominated by OL and DL.
This organization needs an overarching goal statement, so how about something I heard Phil Simms say to Chris Russo last fall:
Fast teams slow down late in the season. Big teams don't get smaller.
Build a big strong team that will be able to compete in the northeast in December and January. Focus prime resources (Day 1 and 2 picks, prime FA money) on OL and DL who are big and powerful by NFL standards. The Giants' two best players fit this description, one on each side of the line. Build around them with more people like them. All along keep an eye open for a QB, but do it like Pittsburgh - stay cheap until it's time not to be. Treat the position like an actual meritocracy. Draft one every year, but don't crown anyone.
To go along with this, hire a head coach who knows something about line play. Possible current coordinators off the top of my head include Arthur Smith, Vic Fangio, and Greg Roman; I'm sure there are others that make sense.
Of all the dumb shit said on Hard Knocks there was one moment of clarity from, of all people, Tim Mccdonell: what is our identity?
This would be a start.
does anyone remember what parcells did for dallas?
he'd been out of coaching for 3-4 years at that point. he was younger than belichick now but functionally im not sure there was a big difference.
he turned dallas around and put them on the track that wade phillips and jason garrett took advantage of. he drafted witten, ware, and found/groomed romo. beefed up their physicality 10-fold. signed leonard davis and just started smashing people with the OL and they havent stopped doing that since.
he flipped dallas from a 5 win team to a 9-10 win team with the foundation that became a 13 win team before they started regressing and fired wade for garrett. will mcclay started in dallas just 1 year ahead of parcells and that was just his 3rd year in an nfl gig so id imagine he learned a good amount under him. he got promoted to pro scouting coordinator a couple years after parcells left. mcclay's first nfl job was ironically in 2001 jax, under coughlin i think.
when parcells went to the dolphins FO a few years later he was close to belichick's age - and he helped turn a 1 win team the year before into an 11 win team the next year (even though sparano eventually proved to be a dud).
if someone has a better option than BB im all ears. vrabel is a compelling alternative but im not hiring a first timer again. no way no how. i felt that way 2 years ago when they hired daboll too and the fact that he won us all over hook line sinker same as mcadoo only makes me feel that way more absolutely this time around if things implode again.
RE: RE: RE: if the they clean house i dont see how he's not the odds on favorite
mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
To me the strategy needs to move away from building everything around the QB. Just because they move on from Jones doesn't mean QB is solved. (And let's see them move on from Jones first before we assume anything, by the way)
If I'm running the Giants I try to get back to the roots of the two good eras most of us have seen: focus on building a big, powerful team dominated by OL and DL.
This organization needs an overarching goal statement, so how about something I heard Phil Simms say to Chris Russo last fall:
Fast teams slow down late in the season. Big teams don't get smaller.
Build a big strong team that will be able to compete in the northeast in December and January. Focus prime resources (Day 1 and 2 picks, prime FA money) on OL and DL who are big and powerful by NFL standards. The Giants' two best players fit this description, one on each side of the line. Build around them with more people like them. All along keep an eye open for a QB, but do it like Pittsburgh - stay cheap until it's time not to be. Treat the position like an actual meritocracy. Draft one every year, but don't crown anyone.
To go along with this, hire a head coach who knows something about line play. Possible current coordinators off the top of my head include Arthur Smith, Vic Fangio, and Greg Roman; I'm sure there are others that make sense.
Of all the dumb shit said on Hard Knocks there was one moment of clarity from, of all people, Tim Mccdonell: what is our identity?
This would be a start.
this has been my justification for harbough (then flores) since mcadoo failed. we've had so many coaching searches i cant remember the timing of all of them, but i think saban was even rumored interested at one point.
losing in embarrassing ways is so calcified in this organization at this point let's just get back to playing non-embarassing football even if it's ugly and .500ish.
before eli took off, that's basically what coughlin accomplished. nobody was satisfied with it but that foundation is what allowed the team to then win SB's after eli took off.
Eric on LI, if Dabs does get fired....my top choices are BB & Vrabel. Nota first time coach. Give me someone with some pelts on the wall who doesn't need on the job training & will bring immediate legitimacy to the organization, both of whom would IMO.
Eric on LI, if Dabs does get fired....my top choices are BB & Vrabel. Nota first time coach. Give me someone with some pelts on the wall who doesn't need on the job training & will bring immediate legitimacy to the organization, both of whom would IMO.
that's my pov too. id hope either has a smart plan for what they'd do offensively/schematically, but beggars cant be choosers. if we cant beat teams lets at least find someone who will put up some fight.
RE: RE: RE: if the they clean house i dont see how he's not the odds on favorite
he may. ive long expected him to land in dallas when mccarthy inevitably craps out again. but bb saw last year, there are no givens. he went for jobs and didnt get them. if an owner he respected offered him total control before a better job is open, would he pass on it? he learned last year unlike brady he's not assured to find what he wants.
re the second question do i trust BB to find the next QB? no i dont. but i also dont have the name of someone id trust more than him either, so that's kind of a useless question. mcvay and reid are probably the 2 guys id trust to do that and they arent available.
so im willing to settle for a guy who will bring in a lot of winning traits, a winning attitude, at minimum probably get the defense back into the top 10 consistently, and hopefully find the next versions of caserio, mayo, vrabel, bob, types to keep the organization moving in the right direction after he hopefully gets things back on track.
i would hope he is coming in with an offensive plan built around finding a way to steal from what has worked so well with the shanahan/mcvay guys. ryans, mcdaniel, koc, etc.
Agreed on Dallas. Obviously, there are no sure things, but they are definitely one of these teams that could be an "add Belichick and stir" for a championship contender right away.
While I'm not a big Dak guy because of his playoff struggles, maybe BB could be the talisman to get him to that next level. And for a defensive wizard like BB, Dallas has a lot of parts in place on D already.
And I agree on all the positives BB could install, and his impact on the culture. I love the guy and think he's been unfairly maligned for what he actually built during the Brady era.
But if it's nostalgia and love vs. winning more trophies, I would bet BB takes the road for the latter.
They’re failing because none have had good QB play. Because he fails in year 3 it’s because he’s too green, but what about scheming his way to a playoff win his first year as a head coach?
The math doesn’t add up.
A coach is dead in the water without a good QB, with the exception of maybe two to three head coaches in the league right now.
I hear you and I love the smashmouth approach. But today's game screams getting a high-level QB. It's such a must-have.
Look, at the end of the day, the NFL is a talent acquisition business. And right now, alas, it seems like we just can't find the right people to find that and further develop it.
I actually think your better idea was this off-season and making a serious run at Harbaugh. Do you think he would have gone into the April draft content to stick with #8?
It's going to be very interesting to watch him rebuild the Chargers. I hate the 49ers but love what he did with that team, and when he'd bring in 6 OL and just pound the rock in the red zone.
Yeah, we beat them when it mattered, but that was a tough, solid team with a very clear identity.
Giants and getting a rookie might take awhile. But, you never know. People getting to the finish line have very personal motivations imo.
Of course Belichick was a terrible GM at the end, but if Mara is going to dump both Schoen and Daboll to go after Belichick, the chances are high it will wind up being both jobs.
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, but that's the end way of the Giants these days.
But if he really just wanted to break the wins record, why in the world would he come here? It would have to be a labor of love.
73 years old to START the next rebuild when the Belichick name has lost it's luster? Pass.
BB is chasing Shula and more Lombardi trophies. Right now, this place isn't close for a 73 old HC.
If Jacksonville struggles, I could see BB there with Lawrence.
If I'm Spags, I wonder if I wait until Reid retires.
That's BB's 23-year-old girlfriend.
At some point, you lose your fastball. Maybe BB needed a year off to recharge his batteries and freshen up his perspective. But the odds are, he's simply over the hill. And it seems like the principle benefit of hiring him will be to make fans (especially lifers) feel better about the state of the franchise being in the dumper.
It's the only way to generate any sort of hope for the fans this season. This season seems to be shot already, and we'll have to watch a horrible QB ruin the hopes for the fans again.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
Getting Nelson Rockefeller vibes.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
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mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
I would probably trust him to draft a QB. Not sure I'd trust him to develop that guy.
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mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
he may. ive long expected him to land in dallas when mccarthy inevitably craps out again. but bb saw last year, there are no givens. he went for jobs and didnt get them. if an owner he respected offered him total control before a better job is open, would he pass on it? he learned last year unlike brady he's not assured to find what he wants.
re the second question do i trust BB to find the next QB? no i dont. but i also dont have the name of someone id trust more than him either, so that's kind of a useless question. mcvay and reid are probably the 2 guys id trust to do that and they arent available.
so im willing to settle for a guy who will bring in a lot of winning traits, a winning attitude, at minimum probably get the defense back into the top 10 consistently, and hopefully find the next versions of caserio, mayo, vrabel, bob, types to keep the organization moving in the right direction after he hopefully gets things back on track.
i would hope he is coming in with an offensive plan built around finding a way to steal from what has worked so well with the shanahan/mcvay guys. ryans, mcdaniel, koc, etc.
1) I still think BB can coach.
2) He LOVES the Giants organization. Watch his 'Football Life' or the 'Two Bills' 30 for 30. It is so obvious how much love he has for the franchise.
3) I think the idea of BB 'returning home' is strong with Mara.
Also, bringing in BB brings immediate credibility to the Giant. Immediate. He's the HC GOAT. As long as he's not playing GM too-I still think BB the GM killed BB the HC in Foxoboro-I'm fine with bringing him on. & yes, I'd like to talk to him about the succession plan post him because he's no spring chicken obviously.
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mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
To me the strategy needs to move away from building everything around the QB. Just because they move on from Jones doesn't mean QB is solved. (And let's see them move on from Jones first before we assume anything, by the way)
If I'm running the Giants I try to get back to the roots of the two good eras most of us have seen: focus on building a big, powerful team dominated by OL and DL.
This organization needs an overarching goal statement, so how about something I heard Phil Simms say to Chris Russo last fall:
Fast teams slow down late in the season. Big teams don't get smaller.
Build a big strong team that will be able to compete in the northeast in December and January. Focus prime resources (Day 1 and 2 picks, prime FA money) on OL and DL who are big and powerful by NFL standards. The Giants' two best players fit this description, one on each side of the line. Build around them with more people like them. All along keep an eye open for a QB, but do it like Pittsburgh - stay cheap until it's time not to be. Treat the position like an actual meritocracy. Draft one every year, but don't crown anyone.
To go along with this, hire a head coach who knows something about line play. Possible current coordinators off the top of my head include Arthur Smith, Vic Fangio, and Greg Roman; I'm sure there are others that make sense.
Of all the dumb shit said on Hard Knocks there was one moment of clarity from, of all people, Tim Mccdonell: what is our identity?
This would be a start.
he turned dallas around and put them on the track that wade phillips and jason garrett took advantage of. he drafted witten, ware, and found/groomed romo. beefed up their physicality 10-fold. signed leonard davis and just started smashing people with the OL and they havent stopped doing that since.
he flipped dallas from a 5 win team to a 9-10 win team with the foundation that became a 13 win team before they started regressing and fired wade for garrett. will mcclay started in dallas just 1 year ahead of parcells and that was just his 3rd year in an nfl gig so id imagine he learned a good amount under him. he got promoted to pro scouting coordinator a couple years after parcells left. mcclay's first nfl job was ironically in 2001 jax, under coughlin i think.
when parcells went to the dolphins FO a few years later he was close to belichick's age - and he helped turn a 1 win team the year before into an 11 win team the next year (even though sparano eventually proved to be a dud).
if someone has a better option than BB im all ears. vrabel is a compelling alternative but im not hiring a first timer again. no way no how. i felt that way 2 years ago when they hired daboll too and the fact that he won us all over hook line sinker same as mcadoo only makes me feel that way more absolutely this time around if things implode again.
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mara is very much swayed by public opinion. that's why he went the schoen/daboll route when he preferred flores even before schoen.
belichick is the easy button. if this thing implodes id be surprised if he doesnt press it.
I'm sure nostalgia will roll in like a hurricane if we get to the point. But, again, what's the strategy at QB for a 73-year-old HC chasing big trophies?
The solution isn't currently on the roster. Do we trust BB to draft one? And the free agency market, especially with Dak now out, isn't a bumper crop in 2025...
I just think he would be looking to do what Brady did. Find a ready-to-win-now team.
To me the strategy needs to move away from building everything around the QB. Just because they move on from Jones doesn't mean QB is solved. (And let's see them move on from Jones first before we assume anything, by the way)
If I'm running the Giants I try to get back to the roots of the two good eras most of us have seen: focus on building a big, powerful team dominated by OL and DL.
This organization needs an overarching goal statement, so how about something I heard Phil Simms say to Chris Russo last fall:
Fast teams slow down late in the season. Big teams don't get smaller.
Build a big strong team that will be able to compete in the northeast in December and January. Focus prime resources (Day 1 and 2 picks, prime FA money) on OL and DL who are big and powerful by NFL standards. The Giants' two best players fit this description, one on each side of the line. Build around them with more people like them. All along keep an eye open for a QB, but do it like Pittsburgh - stay cheap until it's time not to be. Treat the position like an actual meritocracy. Draft one every year, but don't crown anyone.
To go along with this, hire a head coach who knows something about line play. Possible current coordinators off the top of my head include Arthur Smith, Vic Fangio, and Greg Roman; I'm sure there are others that make sense.
Of all the dumb shit said on Hard Knocks there was one moment of clarity from, of all people, Tim Mccdonell: what is our identity?
This would be a start.
this has been my justification for harbough (then flores) since mcadoo failed. we've had so many coaching searches i cant remember the timing of all of them, but i think saban was even rumored interested at one point.
losing in embarrassing ways is so calcified in this organization at this point let's just get back to playing non-embarassing football even if it's ugly and .500ish.
before eli took off, that's basically what coughlin accomplished. nobody was satisfied with it but that foundation is what allowed the team to then win SB's after eli took off.
that's my pov too. id hope either has a smart plan for what they'd do offensively/schematically, but beggars cant be choosers. if we cant beat teams lets at least find someone who will put up some fight.
he may. ive long expected him to land in dallas when mccarthy inevitably craps out again. but bb saw last year, there are no givens. he went for jobs and didnt get them. if an owner he respected offered him total control before a better job is open, would he pass on it? he learned last year unlike brady he's not assured to find what he wants.
re the second question do i trust BB to find the next QB? no i dont. but i also dont have the name of someone id trust more than him either, so that's kind of a useless question. mcvay and reid are probably the 2 guys id trust to do that and they arent available.
so im willing to settle for a guy who will bring in a lot of winning traits, a winning attitude, at minimum probably get the defense back into the top 10 consistently, and hopefully find the next versions of caserio, mayo, vrabel, bob, types to keep the organization moving in the right direction after he hopefully gets things back on track.
i would hope he is coming in with an offensive plan built around finding a way to steal from what has worked so well with the shanahan/mcvay guys. ryans, mcdaniel, koc, etc.
Agreed on Dallas. Obviously, there are no sure things, but they are definitely one of these teams that could be an "add Belichick and stir" for a championship contender right away.
While I'm not a big Dak guy because of his playoff struggles, maybe BB could be the talisman to get him to that next level. And for a defensive wizard like BB, Dallas has a lot of parts in place on D already.
And I agree on all the positives BB could install, and his impact on the culture. I love the guy and think he's been unfairly maligned for what he actually built during the Brady era.
But if it's nostalgia and love vs. winning more trophies, I would bet BB takes the road for the latter.
The math doesn’t add up.
A coach is dead in the water without a good QB, with the exception of maybe two to three head coaches in the league right now.
But he is 73 years old. So in my mind, no. He was flat out awful last few years in NE. He drove Brady away - think about that.
But is it realistic? Yes it is.
Look, at the end of the day, the NFL is a talent acquisition business. And right now, alas, it seems like we just can't find the right people to find that and further develop it.
I actually think your better idea was this off-season and making a serious run at Harbaugh. Do you think he would have gone into the April draft content to stick with #8?
Yeah, we beat them when it mattered, but that was a tough, solid team with a very clear identity.