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Hilary : 9/13/2024 8:01 pm
Let’s go Mets.
4 baggers Alvarez and Nimmo.
Team needs them down the stretch
6-0:Mets in 5th
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RE: Reed Garrett is too much of a headcase  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2024 6:52 pm : link
In comment 16608823 spike said:
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to be depended upon to strand runners


came into tough spot got it to 2 outs and 2 strikes. clearly gone are the days of him being the primary setup guy but it was the 7th inning. he's clearly behind at least maton/butto.

nunez injury was a big loss.
Lindor should play tomorrow  
spike : 9/14/2024 6:59 pm : link
even though Acuna had a nice debut
RE: Lindor should play tomorrow  
Mike in NY : 9/14/2024 7:02 pm : link
In comment 16608834 spike said:
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even though Acuna had a nice debut


They could DH one of them (or Iglesias)
lindor's issue doesn't sound like nothing  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2024 7:05 pm : link
first missed game in over a year, hopefully he's right and he wakes up feeling better tomorrow but that sort of tells us how he feels today.

SNY
@SNYtv
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"I truly believe it's a day-to-day type thing. Hopefully tomorrow I wake up and I'm in a much better position to come out and be available for the team"

- Francisco Lindor on his back soreness
mendoza comments even more negative  
Eric on Li : 9/14/2024 7:08 pm : link
acuna had a real strong debut. lefty pitching tomorrow which is iglesias' much better split. obviously if lindor feels good you get him in however you can (DH or SS) but thankfully Acuna gives them a decent looking alternative.

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Mendoza didn't sound all that confident about Lindor's availability Sunday after missing Sat. with back injury. Said Lindor had to go through "a series of exercises just to get ready" to try to play, which could indicate significant issue and also why mgr didn't use him as PH.
Enough excuses for Garrett - he sucks.  
CooperDash : 9/14/2024 9:11 pm : link
Don’t care if it was a “tough situation”. That’s his damn job.

I’ve never seen a more mediocre/bad pitcher get more a pass than this guy. He suuuuuuuucks.
ATL won and tied for the last WC spot  
spike : 9/14/2024 10:09 pm : link
Arizona lost, Padres game starting now.
Lindor  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2024 12:19 pm : link
back today. Leading off.
credit for trying to play through but clearly this is a real thing  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 2:15 pm : link
hopefully acuna can keep playing like he did yesterday.

Mike Puma
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The Mets say Lindor left with back discomfort.
first nice defensive play from acuna  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 2:32 pm : link
he's making his case that he can contribute even once lindor is healthy again. 95 mph ev from bohm on this one.


https://x.com/SNYtv/status/1835385314640105922 - ( New Window )
Is it impossible for any of these power hitters to hit one out of  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 2:57 pm : link
this park? JFC. What a bunch of warning track darlings.
No offense  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:00 pm : link
Without our MVP.

Alonso is a paper champ.
RE: No offense  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 3:04 pm : link
In comment 16610263 spike said:
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Without our MVP.

Alonso is a paper champ.


Worthless. Alonso’s next clutch hit will be his first.
Homerun derby champion  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:10 pm : link
Whatever that is worth. How about hitting one when it counts most
Tyrone Taylor!  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:12 pm : link
Is the man to step up!
tyrone!!!!!!  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 3:12 pm : link
1-0 good guys now gotta hold it for 6 outs!
Good call, Gary Cohen, on the Torrens home run  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 3:12 pm : link
Alonso, JD…take notice

alonso real close to a big 2 out rbi there  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 3:22 pm : link
but phillies kept ball close enough bader couldnt score. gonna have to white knuckle this one.
Go DP  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:23 pm : link
One more frame
bottom of philly order up here  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 3:23 pm : link
need to have diaz ready for the heart of the lineup. peterson on 86 pitches.
Thats one gritty phils team  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:28 pm : link
Lets see what this mets bullpen is made of
man peterson had such a good game going  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 3:28 pm : link
back to back doubles to tie it against the bottom of their lineup is another crusher.
Their bench players are stepping up  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:29 pm : link
The Mets sluggers have been stymied
iglesias' shoulder must be connected with carbon steel  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 3:29 pm : link
what did he do to piss off all the pitchers?
Too bad for Peterson -he’s had a great outing and should have been  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 3:30 pm : link
in line for the win. Too bad our offense continues to slump.
Will another Mets role player  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:34 pm : link
Step up?
They  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:39 pm : link
Dont work the counts as much as they should
Fuc the Phils  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:51 pm : link
Im sick of their offense
Everyone knew this was happening…right?  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 3:51 pm : link
lol Mets…as usual.
Well they got their playoff games  
spike : 9/15/2024 3:52 pm : link
In September.
Tough weekend  
Metnut : 9/15/2024 4:00 pm : link
Need a big honest and to keep the season going. Take all 3 vs Nats and hope Lindor is ready for the Philly rematch.
We need the Dodgers  
spike : 9/15/2024 4:02 pm : link
To win some games
lindor getting mri on back  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 4:24 pm : link
felt it tighten up after his single. really hope him getting shut down isnt how this season ends. with how he's played this year he very well may have been the difference in these last 2 games.
He s the definition  
spike : 9/15/2024 4:46 pm : link
Of a MVP
tough loss but 2 things I took from this series  
Rory : 9/15/2024 7:35 pm : link
1. Our starting pitching can be counted on to step up when called upon
2. Phillies are beatable.

I get certain someone's are coming on here with their "that's so Mets" negativity but fuck that man. We weren't supposed to be here and the vibes are high. The lineup is stacked and it's just a matter of time before a couple of the bats heat up.

Lindor is a concern but he's a gamer and he'll do what's best.

Just 2 weeks ago we were 4 games behind the braves, so being a 1/2 game behind is nothing, in fact we could blow right past the Braves and the Dbacks in 2 weeks. Braves have 2 more against the Dodgers and then finish the season against the Royals. Alot can happen.

an Nats will be a good get right game.

"You gotta believe "
Weren't supposed to be here?  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2024 7:50 pm : link
the Mets have the highest payroll in the league.

Even if you take out the $87M retained for Verlander/Scherzer, etc. they have the 3rd highest payroll.

they absolutely should be at least fighting for a wild card. Not sure what some of you need to hold these players accountable.
RE: Weren't supposed to be here?  
Rory : 9/15/2024 7:57 pm : link
In comment 16611574 pjcas18 said:
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the Mets have the highest payroll in the league.

Even if you take out the $87M retained for Verlander/Scherzer, etc. they have the 3rd highest payroll.

they absolutely should be at least fighting for a wild card. Not sure what some of you need to hold these players accountable.


are you directing that to me? Well I disagree. My point is try to enjoy this.
Of course enjoy  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2024 8:02 pm : link
it, but they should be in contention. at least for a WC.

it is expected and would be a disappointment if they were not contending and a disappointment if they do not get a WC spot.

their win total before the season was 81.5.

This year may be different (seems like it will be) but last year 84 wins got in for the NL.
Apparently you only “enjoy” games as long as you are kissing the  
CooperDash : 9/15/2024 9:03 pm : link
ring of Stearns and the Mets. Always thought that was such a pretentious take from some here. Along with “you should just be happy that they are here”. Because “they weren’t supposed to be here.”

pj said it best, so no need to get into it further. But we should just thank our lucky stars because the Mets were four games behind the Braves at some point in the past? Lol, thanks.

Low bar here.

RE: Apparently you only “enjoy” games as long as you are kissing the  
Rory : 9/15/2024 11:10 pm : link
In comment 16611770 CooperDash said:
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ring of Stearns and the Mets. Always thought that was such a pretentious take from some here. Along with “you should just be happy that they are here”. Because “they weren’t supposed to be here.”

pj said it best, so no need to get into it further. But we should just thank our lucky stars because the Mets were four games behind the Braves at some point in the past? Lol, thanks.

Low bar here.


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WC  
GF1080 : 9/15/2024 11:13 pm : link
We're tied with the braves for the last WC. 2 weeks left. Everything still on table here but need Lindor.
accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 11:34 pm : link
i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?
RE: accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
GF1080 : 9/16/2024 12:09 am : link
In comment 16611973 Eric on Li said:
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i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?


Well said.
RE: accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
CooperDash : 9/16/2024 1:10 am : link
In comment 16611973 Eric on Li said:
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i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?


To start - I'll answer your question and say that, yes, overall I think that Stearns has done a good job in his first season with the Mets. They are already better than they were in the previous season and he's made some good moves that have paid off. Regardless of what you may think, I'm still on the Stearns bandwagon. But it doesn't mean that I love all his moves and that he's above criticism.

He takes a hit on how he handled the JD Martinez injury/Vientos situation - but that ultimately worked out. Most, if not all, of my issues are around his building of this Mets bullpen. Personally, I think his approach is simply to throw as much crap on the mound as he can and hope that he hits a homerun. And he's put A LOT of crap on the mound that has cost a lot of games. Maybe that's just how it is as a MLB GM - but I'm unimpressed. And ultimately it may cost us a chance at the postseason.

Aside from that - I've watched nearly every single game this season and have greatly enjoyed the season. Maybe I'm just a different type of fan - I don't intend or even want to argue with anyone. I post what I post and some people take issue with it - but my intent is to never call anyone out directly. But I'll call out the Mets leadership when I feel it's warranted. Stearns may not be Theo (yet) - but I hope that he has the same effect. I've also specifically said (in past posts) that I think he's done a good job but I need to see more.

But I certainly don't need to be told to "just enjoy" the game because another fan is happy with where they are. I do "enjoy" the team as I have since 1985 (when I really started to get into baseball as a kid). The arrow is pointing up - and I'm excited to see where this team goes. Believe it or not - I do think that the team is in good hands.
RE: RE: accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
Eric on Li : 9/16/2024 10:16 am : link
In comment 16612007 CooperDash said:
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In comment 16611973 Eric on Li said:


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i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?



To start - I'll answer your question and say that, yes, overall I think that Stearns has done a good job in his first season with the Mets. They are already better than they were in the previous season and he's made some good moves that have paid off. Regardless of what you may think, I'm still on the Stearns bandwagon. But it doesn't mean that I love all his moves and that he's above criticism.

He takes a hit on how he handled the JD Martinez injury/Vientos situation - but that ultimately worked out. Most, if not all, of my issues are around his building of this Mets bullpen. Personally, I think his approach is simply to throw as much crap on the mound as he can and hope that he hits a homerun. And he's put A LOT of crap on the mound that has cost a lot of games. Maybe that's just how it is as a MLB GM - but I'm unimpressed. And ultimately it may cost us a chance at the postseason.

Aside from that - I've watched nearly every single game this season and have greatly enjoyed the season. Maybe I'm just a different type of fan - I don't intend or even want to argue with anyone. I post what I post and some people take issue with it - but my intent is to never call anyone out directly. But I'll call out the Mets leadership when I feel it's warranted. Stearns may not be Theo (yet) - but I hope that he has the same effect. I've also specifically said (in past posts) that I think he's done a good job but I need to see more.

But I certainly don't need to be told to "just enjoy" the game because another fan is happy with where they are. I do "enjoy" the team as I have since 1985 (when I really started to get into baseball as a kid). The arrow is pointing up - and I'm excited to see where this team goes. Believe it or not - I do think that the team is in good hands.


thank you for the thoughtful reply - im not going to speak for rory but i didnt read his post as kissing any rings or demanding it from anyone else.

imo the met threads are the best part of bbi bc generally speaking everyone avoids most of the bs of the rest of bbi. for a long time (when the nyg were mostly good ironically) i didnt post much on non-met threads and it was mostly because all anyone did was bitch about couglin/eli not realizing how much worse things could and unfortunately would eventually be. and in my time on BBI the mets generally have been as bad/embarassing as the giants or worse, so it's not even like it's because they win more. on the rare occasion i see a yankee thread i dont find that to be the case even though they win 90+ every year and have no idea what 'bad' actually is.

bad losses suck and everyone has the right to vent however they want but i think that goes all ways. it's fair game to be down after 2 late losses, it's also fair to point out they just played a close road series against maybe best team in NL basically without lindor and were real close to winning it. so rereading the exchanges you were both right without having to drift into the hyperbole or low expectations stuff (jmo). how they play today/tomorrow/next week is all that matters and all we can do is hope for the best, but this team has come back from more brutally disappointing losses than that one so im somewhat confident they wont roll over even if the lindor back issue lingers. mendoza has been a solid manager and they've built/managed a solid roster that has withstood some bad luck. watching the shit we all suffer through on sundays makes me thankful because basic competence isnt guaranteed.
Lindor  
GF1080 : 9/16/2024 3:49 pm : link
Out of the lineup. Could miss up to 5 more games.
RE: RE: accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
Rory : 9/16/2024 3:59 pm : link
In comment 16612007 CooperDash said:
Quote:
In comment 16611973 Eric on Li said:


Quote:


i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?



To start - I'll answer your question and say that, yes, overall I think that Stearns has done a good job in his first season with the Mets. They are already better than they were in the previous season and he's made some good moves that have paid off. Regardless of what you may think, I'm still on the Stearns bandwagon. But it doesn't mean that I love all his moves and that he's above criticism.

He takes a hit on how he handled the JD Martinez injury/Vientos situation - but that ultimately worked out. Most, if not all, of my issues are around his building of this Mets bullpen. Personally, I think his approach is simply to throw as much crap on the mound as he can and hope that he hits a homerun. And he's put A LOT of crap on the mound that has cost a lot of games. Maybe that's just how it is as a MLB GM - but I'm unimpressed. And ultimately it may cost us a chance at the postseason.

Aside from that - I've watched nearly every single game this season and have greatly enjoyed the season. Maybe I'm just a different type of fan - I don't intend or even want to argue with anyone. I post what I post and some people take issue with it - but my intent is to never call anyone out directly. But I'll call out the Mets leadership when I feel it's warranted. Stearns may not be Theo (yet) - but I hope that he has the same effect. I've also specifically said (in past posts) that I think he's done a good job but I need to see more.

But I certainly don't need to be told to "just enjoy" the game because another fan is happy with where they are. I do "enjoy" the team as I have since 1985 (when I really started to get into baseball as a kid). The arrow is pointing up - and I'm excited to see where this team goes. Believe it or not - I do think that the team is in good hands.


all I"m going to say is 2 comments.

1. Cooper, Look around the rest of the league. bullpen is a crapshoot with almost all teams, look how many relievers are recycled from team to team and have "on and off seasons". An quite honestly, Matton for virtually nothing should be regarded as one of the biggest hijacking trades this season.

2. The point of my post was to offer a positive response after a tough loss cause I support my team and the fans on this board.
RE: Lindor  
spike : 9/16/2024 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16612916 GF1080 said:
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Out of the lineup. Could miss up to 5 more games.


I had a dream last night where Lindor went on the IL.
Lindor should hopefully be back for the Philly rematch  
Metnut : 9/16/2024 4:23 pm : link
Would be great if NYM can hammer down on WSH here without him. ATL has to face Yamamoto tonight, so a chance for the Mets to maybe have a good night tonight.

Have never really minded people venting a bit during games, but I do think there's too much negativity on these threads at times and it certainly results in me participating a bit less. NYM threads shouldn't look like NYG game threads IMO.

RE: RE: RE: accusing anyone of a low bar or low expectations is horseshit  
CooperDash : 9/16/2024 5:54 pm : link
In comment 16612929 Rory said:
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In comment 16612007 CooperDash said:


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In comment 16611973 Eric on Li said:


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i thought they should compete for the playoffs from day 1 and im happy they are currently in the playoffs and fun to watch because they are a good team that has been fun to watch all summer. no need to overcomplicate - we know firsthand no matter how much money gets spent that's never a guarantee. as long as lindor comes back i think they can beat anyone in a series too, especially if senga is also back.

it's total strawman to say that anybody is kissing any rings by pointing out what should be blindly obvious - that stearns did a good job building a team with a bunch of under the radar moves. nobody (myself included) thought this pitching staff was good enough even before senga got hurt. and certainly not if you told me diaz would have this bad of a year too.

coop - most of the stearns discussion over the year came in defense of him when you were criticizing him. where they are very simple question, do you believe he's done a good job or a bad job?



To start - I'll answer your question and say that, yes, overall I think that Stearns has done a good job in his first season with the Mets. They are already better than they were in the previous season and he's made some good moves that have paid off. Regardless of what you may think, I'm still on the Stearns bandwagon. But it doesn't mean that I love all his moves and that he's above criticism.

He takes a hit on how he handled the JD Martinez injury/Vientos situation - but that ultimately worked out. Most, if not all, of my issues are around his building of this Mets bullpen. Personally, I think his approach is simply to throw as much crap on the mound as he can and hope that he hits a homerun. And he's put A LOT of crap on the mound that has cost a lot of games. Maybe that's just how it is as a MLB GM - but I'm unimpressed. And ultimately it may cost us a chance at the postseason.

Aside from that - I've watched nearly every single game this season and have greatly enjoyed the season. Maybe I'm just a different type of fan - I don't intend or even want to argue with anyone. I post what I post and some people take issue with it - but my intent is to never call anyone out directly. But I'll call out the Mets leadership when I feel it's warranted. Stearns may not be Theo (yet) - but I hope that he has the same effect. I've also specifically said (in past posts) that I think he's done a good job but I need to see more.

But I certainly don't need to be told to "just enjoy" the game because another fan is happy with where they are. I do "enjoy" the team as I have since 1985 (when I really started to get into baseball as a kid). The arrow is pointing up - and I'm excited to see where this team goes. Believe it or not - I do think that the team is in good hands.



all I"m going to say is 2 comments.

1. Cooper, Look around the rest of the league. bullpen is a crapshoot with almost all teams, look how many relievers are recycled from team to team and have "on and off seasons". An quite honestly, Matton for virtually nothing should be regarded as one of the biggest hijacking trades this season.

2. The point of my post was to offer a positive response after a tough loss cause I support my team and the fans on this board.


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