Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
RE: Barely 6 feet (if that) with limited arm strength and zip
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
Right - very Tua-ish.
But a bit more mobile.
RE: RE: Barely 6 feet (if that) with limited arm strength and zip
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
Right - very Tua-ish.
But a bit more mobile.
And not nearly as good of a passer. He's not an NFL QB.
RE: Barely 6 feet (if that) with limited arm strength and zip
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
Actually listed at only 5'10". I much prefer guys 6'2 or taller. QB is hard enough to play in the NFL when you have enough size. Yes I know some have, like Russel Wilson, but they are the exception
RE: Barely 6 feet (if that) with limited arm strength and zip
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
I agree. IMO he's not an NFL QB. He's a backup QB in the league. Shouldn't be drafted before round 4.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
That Oregon O-Line is like a brick wall. And Gabriel is throwing to WIDE OPEN receivers. Even Daniel Jones could play in this offense (sorry, I had to).
RE: RE: Barely 6 feet (if that) with limited arm strength and zip
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
And he looked awfully good. QB height is overrated OL is too tall to see over no matter how tall you are.IiMHO he is better than any QB on the Giants. OTOH he probably is too slight to last in the NFL.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
Ward is listed at 6'2 223. Ewers is listed at 6'2 210.
And he looked awfully good. QB height is overrated OL is too tall to see over no matter how tall you are.IiMHO he is better than any QB on the Giants. OTOH he probably is too slight to last in the NFL.
I don't think it's about seeing over the OL - it's about the ball passing lower to the ground when thrown over the line of scrimmage. Maybe only by a few inches, but still not ideal. Drew Brees had a great career playing at 6'0 tall, but he seems to be an outlier.
And he looked awfully good. QB height is overrated OL is too tall to see over no matter how tall you are.IiMHO he is better than any QB on the Giants. OTOH he probably is too slight to last in the NFL.
I don't think it's about seeing over the OL - it's about the ball passing lower to the ground when thrown over the line of scrimmage. Maybe only by a few inches, but still not ideal. Drew Brees had a great career playing at 6'0 tall, but he seems to be an outlier.
I'm not worried too much about the height. With Gabriel I'm more worried about the arm strength. It's just not NFL level arm strength IMO. I don't think he can consistently throw it outside the numbers in the NFL and I don't trust him to make tight window throws. I don't think he has the anticipation to hit WRs in the NFL. He will also be 3 months from 25 by the time his first NFL game rolls around. So IMO he's at or near his ceiling.
Very good college QB that's played in 3 conferences that play extremely weak defense. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't see it with the guy. I think he could be a solid backup QB in the NFL and I honestly don't see how he goes before round 4-5.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
Ward is listed at 6'2 223. Ewers is listed at 6'2 210.
When I see them in the game Ewers looks taller than Ward and I am not talking about fractions of an inch. That being said, camera angles can distort that so let’s see what official numbers are.
He reminds me so much of Tua.
Right - very Tua-ish.
But a bit more mobile.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
Right - very Tua-ish.
But a bit more mobile.
And not nearly as good of a passer. He's not an NFL QB.
Actually listed at only 5'10". I much prefer guys 6'2 or taller. QB is hard enough to play in the NFL when you have enough size. Yes I know some have, like Russel Wilson, but they are the exception
I agree. IMO he's not an NFL QB. He's a backup QB in the league. Shouldn't be drafted before round 4.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
Late round pick at best
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
Smaller, but similar running styles for sure. Milroe is a fearless runner who can knock defenders on their ass.
No thanks on Milroe. Great college player. Not a fan as an NFL prospect. Not good enough as a passer.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
Ward is listed at 6'2 223. Ewers is listed at 6'2 210.
I don't think it's about seeing over the OL - it's about the ball passing lower to the ground when thrown over the line of scrimmage. Maybe only by a few inches, but still not ideal. Drew Brees had a great career playing at 6'0 tall, but he seems to be an outlier.
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And he looked awfully good. QB height is overrated OL is too tall to see over no matter how tall you are.IiMHO he is better than any QB on the Giants. OTOH he probably is too slight to last in the NFL.
I don't think it's about seeing over the OL - it's about the ball passing lower to the ground when thrown over the line of scrimmage. Maybe only by a few inches, but still not ideal. Drew Brees had a great career playing at 6'0 tall, but he seems to be an outlier.
I'm not worried too much about the height. With Gabriel I'm more worried about the arm strength. It's just not NFL level arm strength IMO. I don't think he can consistently throw it outside the numbers in the NFL and I don't trust him to make tight window throws. I don't think he has the anticipation to hit WRs in the NFL. He will also be 3 months from 25 by the time his first NFL game rolls around. So IMO he's at or near his ceiling.
Very good college QB that's played in 3 conferences that play extremely weak defense. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't see it with the guy. I think he could be a solid backup QB in the NFL and I honestly don't see how he goes before round 4-5.
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Nice college QB and could challenge for the Heisman, but no, I'm not interested in him as the franchise QB for the New York Football Giants. Better options out there.
As of right now the guys we need to be looking at are Cam Ward, Ewers & Beck.
One to Miami
One to Las Vegas
One to us
Though I can't shake the feeling that Shedeur Sanders is Raiders-bound.
I don't think Miami is going to take a QB. I personally don't think Tua is going anywhere. How are you rating the 3 I named as of right now? My top 3 is below and it's just based on watching their games live.
Ward (My #1 by a good margin)
Ewers
Beck
While I am one of the earliest people on the Ward bandwagon on BBI I still have Ewers above him. Ward can throw at a lot of angles, but he still has plays like the INT versus Florida where you are scratching your head. I would like to see more of his arm strength and fitting into tighter windows. Miami’s OC has been good at spreading the field. Ewers also has more prototypical size.
Ward is listed at 6'2 223. Ewers is listed at 6'2 210.
When I see them in the game Ewers looks taller than Ward and I am not talking about fractions of an inch. That being said, camera angles can distort that so let’s see what official numbers are.