He sucks shit and if he ever gets injured it will kill us for next year. Anyone involved in allowing him to start another game needs to go. There is literally zero upside and only downside. He is not capable of doing anything to help them win anymore.
Yeah, those meaningless wins you fucking twats were rooting for in the last 5 years that fuck us on draft pick have really changed the culture of the organization.
Morons like you deserve to root for a shit team. The rest of us don't. We're sick of watching this shit and the only way for it to change is if they get a legit QB.
Incorrect. I'm rooting for the Giants to get better, and they'll be much better once Jones is no longer the starter
Not my philosophy...I hope he shows everybody that he still has some life in his arm and some runs skills. Prove us wrong DJ, because nothing better than for all of us to eat crow.
Hate their own team and players…. Time to delete memberships on this site
You and 4X Champs have the team you deserve. You are the fans John Mara dreams about. You are happy accepting a shit burger while reminiscing about the past, and pretending everything will magically just be better tomorrow.
is when these morons act like tanking doesn't work and ruins the culture around an organization and rip people who want them to totally bottom out.
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
When Jones plays against good defenses he plays miserably and drags down his team and coaches, every effing time, Lucy and her football is Jones’s Kryptonite. What the HELL did DG see in this backup level turnover machine?
is when these morons act like tanking doesn't work and ruins the culture around an organization and rip people who want them to totally bottom out.
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
No matter what you think, professional athletes have pride and they also play for contracts. They would never collectively as a team, tank a game much less a season just so the team can improve their draft position. It’s a moronic viewpoint.
is when these morons act like tanking doesn't work and ruins the culture around an organization and rip people who want them to totally bottom out.
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
No matter what you think, professional athletes have pride and they also play for contracts. They would never collectively as a team, tank a game much less a season just so the team can improve their draft position. It’s a moronic viewpoint.
Who said that anyone expects an athlete to tank a game? I've never seen one person say that in my 20 years on BBI.
We just want them to lose. Wanting them to tank is just wanting them to lose so they get a high draft pick. We get that they are playing for their paychecks and future paychecks. You're acting like people are saying they want players to intentionally tank. Of course we know a player wouldn't and shouldn't do that.
Hate their own team and players…. Time to delete memberships on this site
Go fuck off.
SFGFNCGiantsFan... I totally agree with your sentiment that anyone who suggests posters should have their memberships deleted, just because they disagree with how they're rooting, should "go fuck off".
However, didn't you once suggest that posters who rooted for the Eagles over the Pats in the Super Bowl should be banned from BBI? (I believe you even added, "I'm serious" just in case people thought you were joking.)
So you’re essentially saying that posters who don’t root for what YOU want should be banned from BBI, but posters who recommend banning you (and others) for not rooting for what THEY want, can go fuck off.
My two cents… if Jones struggles again this week, I wouldn’t be shocked if they sit him. I know it’s early but remember this franchise sat Eli Manning after an 0-2 start in 2019 to give Jones his start and Eli had accomplished far more in his career.
Jim, touché. I did say that BBIers rooting for the Eagles over the Pats should be banned. And I wasn't kidding.
The 'Go fuck off' was more in response to him saying 'scumbag Giants fans'.
I just think everyone is angry, miserable, & disgusted right now. I obviously include myself in that group & we're flying off the handle.
I do think that your “Go fuck off” comment was warranted. I hate it when posters think they’re better Giants fans, just because they would never root against the team under any circumstances. They only live in the moment and they'll never be able to take the "long view" to see what's best for the team.
I’m not at the point of rooting for a tank job, but I’ll probably be there well before the BYE.
And in case you’re wondering… No, I never rooted for the Eagles in their Super Bowls, but I did root for them against Tampa in the 2005 NFC Championship game. (Living in Tampa, I just didn’t want the Bucs to win a championship, because I didn't want to hear about it from all of my local friends.)
My two cents… if Jones struggles again this week, I wouldn’t be shocked if they sit him. I know it’s early but remember this franchise sat Eli Manning after an 0-2 start in 2019 to give Jones his start and Eli had accomplished far more in his career.
Not apples to apples. Eli was aging out and the young high draft pick was waiting. Not the same here. The potential future isn't waiting in the wings. The injury guarantee isnt quite the same, but maybe thats enough.
Holy shit you'd think Dan Quinn was the reincarnation of Buddy Ryan
im rooting for DJ.
prove me wrong.
im just a realist.
this is what i think will happen.
Dan Quinn has owned DJ. he knows DJ.
If DJ has a bad game, its over and daboll has to move on even if its week 2.
at this point no matter what its week to week.
2- I don't think anything Jones does the rest of this year has any baring on us going new QB for 2025.
* if Jones struggles early he will be benched in game and that will be the end of him here.
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Rooting against your own team...
im rooting for DJ.
prove me wrong.
im just a realist.
this is what i think will happen.
Dan Quinn has owned DJ. he knows DJ.
If DJ has a bad game, its over and daboll has to move on even if its week 2.
at this point no matter what its week to week.
Dam Quinn hasn't done anything his Dallas Defense has and Washington isn't Dallas!!
Weren't you the one who said during the offseason that you can't wait for him to have a great year and shove it in our faces?
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Rooting against your own team...
im rooting for DJ.
prove me wrong.
im just a realist.
this is what i think will happen.
Dan Quinn has owned DJ. he knows DJ.
If DJ has a bad game, its over and daboll has to move on even if its week 2.
at this point no matter what its week to week.
Dam Quinn hasn't done anything his Dallas Defense has and Washington isn't Dallas!!
Some of us would like to become a competent organization again & the sooner the Daniel Jones experiment ends, the better. This is YEAR SIX!
Yeah, those meaningless wins you fucking twats were rooting for in the last 5 years that fuck us on draft pick have really changed the culture of the organization.
Morons like you deserve to root for a shit team. The rest of us don't. We're sick of watching this shit and the only way for it to change is if they get a legit QB.
It was the best thing to ever happen to the organization.
You fucking idiots ignore that
But you're absolutely right, tanking doesn't work!
Worst thing to happen:
Winning in 2022
Incorrect. I'm rooting for the Giants to get better, and they'll be much better once Jones is no longer the starter
Go fuck off.
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Rooting against your own team...
Incorrect. I'm rooting for the Giants to get better, and they'll be much better once Jones is no longer the starter
Not my philosophy...I hope he shows everybody that he still has some life in his arm and some runs skills. Prove us wrong DJ, because nothing better than for all of us to eat crow.
If jones plays like shit and I never have to watch his bum ass again I will be happy
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Rooting against your own team...
Some of us would like to become a competent organization again & the sooner the Daniel Jones experiment ends, the better. This is YEAR SIX!
All the great ones hit their stride in year 6, don’t worry!
I’m hearing double talk.
I’m hearing double talk.
its too early for that. give lock a chance.
damn darnold could ressurect hsi career. why not lock?
That would not mess with me.....he is still young eventhough I am not blind to what we have seen....What am I supposed to do, root for the Redskins?
You and 4X Champs have the team you deserve. You are the fans John Mara dreams about. You are happy accepting a shit burger while reminiscing about the past, and pretending everything will magically just be better tomorrow.
Does the coach have the personnel?
I’m hearing double talk.
I would if not for the injury guarantee. Risking him being guaranteed 21 million next year is something they can't do
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
No matter what you think, professional athletes have pride and they also play for contracts. They would never collectively as a team, tank a game much less a season just so the team can improve their draft position. It’s a moronic viewpoint.
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is when these morons act like tanking doesn't work and ruins the culture around an organization and rip people who want them to totally bottom out.
Tanking does work. You also need some luck too and need to tank in the correct year sometimes, but it does work. We've seen it as Giants fans. Two of the Giants Mount Rushmore players were only available to the giants because they tanked. LT and Eli
The Giants can fuck up a one car funeral. People pointing to the Giants last 5 years as evidence that tanking doesn't work are crazy. They dont know how to properly tank. They tank for 11-12 weeks then wake up and win a few meaningless games in december when their season was over at the end of september. The one year that they truly tanked they decided that Eli had a lot left and thought it would be a good idea to draft a RB #2, a move that had zero point zero chance of ever being a good pick, no matter what kind of talent barkley was. The team was in need of a total reset and that move put a stop to a total reset. It's not Barkley's fault that it had no chance to work it's the Giants and their dreadful drafting and dreadful development. He was a win now pick for a team in need of a total reset, what could possibly go wrong?
They needed to take a swing at one of the QBs. And they needed to move on from Jones when it was clear he was not a franchise QB.
Even in hindsight I would still have taken Darnold, and he has not been great obviously, but at least that pick would have had a chance to be the correct pick.
Barkley could run for 2k yards a year and it still would have been the wrong pick for the New York Giants with the roster they had at the time and Eli clearly being finished.
No matter what you think, professional athletes have pride and they also play for contracts. They would never collectively as a team, tank a game much less a season just so the team can improve their draft position. It’s a moronic viewpoint.
Who said that anyone expects an athlete to tank a game? I've never seen one person say that in my 20 years on BBI.
We just want them to lose. Wanting them to tank is just wanting them to lose so they get a high draft pick. We get that they are playing for their paychecks and future paychecks. You're acting like people are saying they want players to intentionally tank. Of course we know a player wouldn't and shouldn't do that.
I want the Giants to win more than I want Jones gone. Tough decision. I do think if Jones comes out firing blanks, he will sit in the 2nd half.
I remember Daboll's look when he said to Schoen on Hard Knocks - "So, same QB room?" Look of resignation. You cannot hide facial expressions.
We are rooting for our team. We are rooting for them to finally see the light and get rid of this guy so we can chart a new course forward.
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Hate their own team and players…. Time to delete memberships on this site
Go fuck off.
SFGFNCGiantsFan... I totally agree with your sentiment that anyone who suggests posters should have their memberships deleted, just because they disagree with how they're rooting, should "go fuck off".
However, didn't you once suggest that posters who rooted for the Eagles over the Pats in the Super Bowl should be banned from BBI? (I believe you even added, "I'm serious" just in case people thought you were joking.)
So you’re essentially saying that posters who don’t root for what YOU want should be banned from BBI, but posters who recommend banning you (and others) for not rooting for what THEY want, can go fuck off.
You can't have it both ways.
The 'Go fuck off' was more in response to him saying 'scumbag Giants fans'.
I just think everyone is angry, miserable, & disgusted right now. I obviously include myself in that group & we're flying off the handle.
https://x.com/Patricia_Traina/status/1835292655703429175?t=5jJulogbJZqTWAMAf7Cx8g&s=19
My two cents… if Jones struggles again this week, I wouldn’t be shocked if they sit him. I know it’s early but remember this franchise sat Eli Manning after an 0-2 start in 2019 to give Jones his start and Eli had accomplished far more in his career.
The 'Go fuck off' was more in response to him saying 'scumbag Giants fans'.
I just think everyone is angry, miserable, & disgusted right now. I obviously include myself in that group & we're flying off the handle.
I do think that your “Go fuck off” comment was warranted. I hate it when posters think they’re better Giants fans, just because they would never root against the team under any circumstances. They only live in the moment and they'll never be able to take the "long view" to see what's best for the team.
I’m not at the point of rooting for a tank job, but I’ll probably be there well before the BYE.
And in case you’re wondering… No, I never rooted for the Eagles in their Super Bowls, but I did root for them against Tampa in the 2005 NFC Championship game. (Living in Tampa, I just didn’t want the Bucs to win a championship, because I didn't want to hear about it from all of my local friends.)
https://x.com/Patricia_Traina/status/1835292655703429175?t=5jJulogbJZqTWAMAf7Cx8g&s=19
My two cents… if Jones struggles again this week, I wouldn’t be shocked if they sit him. I know it’s early but remember this franchise sat Eli Manning after an 0-2 start in 2019 to give Jones his start and Eli had accomplished far more in his career.
Not apples to apples. Eli was aging out and the young high draft pick was waiting. Not the same here. The potential future isn't waiting in the wings. The injury guarantee isnt quite the same, but maybe thats enough.
He'll probably win today.